Tony the Tigger
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Disney After Hours Event
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There is a list of 27 attractions that will be open...let me try to find it... here
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/disney-after-hours-event.911515/page-17#post-7142707
NYwdwfan
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I'd replace "will be" with "scheduled to be".
Brewmaster
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WDW1974
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THIS!!! The dude knows of what he is speaking. None of these upcharge events or price increases or ticketing changes or cutbacks exists in a vacuum. People need to friggin wake up. Disney is all about playing on emotions from past visits or childhood, when things really were better, and constantly lowering standards -- giving you less, charging you more and making the entire visit more uncomfortable and a chore than ANY vacation (let alone to one sold as a premium destination) should ever, ever be.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Once again, that's a rumor. I've said over and over again I think the resort fee would be a terrible idea, but they haven't actually done it yet. People have this nasty habit of taking every negative thing that comes up in a survey and getting all outraged like it's officially announced and effective immediately. I once took a survey that asked me about my dining experience at Casey's.and whether I was satisfied with the amount of "healthy offerings" on the menu. That doesn't mean they're going to replace the pulled pork hot dog with a chef's salad any time soon.
Don't be so condescending. Those of us who still enjoy WDW aren't ignorant to the fact that prices are increasing and the experience is changing. We see those things and still make the determination that we want to spend our time and money there with full information. I've never felt like I've been given less. I'm comfortable with the current prices. I enjoy planning my trips and don't consider it a chore. You disagree. Bully for you. Your opinion that the value proposition has decreased is just that, an opinion.
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Tony the Tigger
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I do agree that overall, just from the last week of news, there isn't much reason to be confident in the company or optimistic about them trying to remain faithful to any "Disney Magic." It makes me wonder if they even understand how to make Star Wars what it should be. (Lowering expectations.) The sum of the parts = a completely different direction for the company.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
This particular event stemmed from a survey though. My WDWMagic search skills are garbage, but I am sure someone has good ones and can find it....
A few months ago Disney had a survey going around asking guests if they would pay more if it meant less people in the parks. It's pretty clear that enough of those surveyed, said yes. Now, this is where we are.
So if Dis is passing around a survey gauging the anger level of guests if they had to pay resort fees, you can bet, resort fees are coming.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
...unless the survey indicated that, in fact, it would bother guests, in which case the resort fees aren't coming.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
It will bother guests. The question is, how aggressively angry would it have to make guests for them to back off the plan?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I wonder about that. It would certainly bother me. But I suspect there's some non-zero population of guests who would actually prefer to see things like Magical Express and whatnot itemized so they feel like they're "getting something" for that chunk of money. I suspect the divide there is what Disney was getting at with the survey question.
Isn't that what we want, though? Guest-driven changes? In the case of the after-hours events, Disney is doing it because guests said they wanted it and would pay for it. That's why I almost always object to the notion of a "cash grab." Disney can't confiscate your money, so if you're giving them more of it, they must be giving you what you want. (That's a generic "you", not YOU specifically.)
There have been plenty of surveys that haven't been implemented:
- Magic Kingdom Character Nights
- All Inclusive Disney Resort
- many variations on Dining plans and discount offers
- variations on FP+ usage
- what characters would you like to meet?
- options to pay for your vacation, such as PayPal
I could go on, Google showed me dozens of images of Disney surveys that people have posted
- Magic Kingdom Character Nights
- All Inclusive Disney Resort
- many variations on Dining plans and discount offers
- variations on FP+ usage
- what characters would you like to meet?
- options to pay for your vacation, such as PayPal
I could go on, Google showed me dozens of images of Disney surveys that people have posted
pax_65
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Because I used to love Disney so much, I'm trying to figure out how to still vacation at WDW. It's a challenge. The old way just doesn't work any longer. The parks are stale and crowded, MM+ has removed all spontaneity and forced excessive planning on us, service isn't close to what it once was, the food isn't close to what it once was, and prices are way up across the board. If I made my first trip to WDW today, I probably wouldn't want to go back. But because I've had so many great trips in the 90s and 2000s, I guess I'm trying to "Recapture the Magic". We're gonna try WDW in May, we'll see how it goes. We're already planning Disneyland next year. After that, maybe we'll give DIsney a break for a few years.
asianway
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I figure MK character nights would be $450 for 3 hours, and a 4 hour line to meet a "rare" character
NYwdwfan
Well-Known Member
Yet. Haven't been implemented yet.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
See, this is the kind of thing that fosters unnecessary negativity. There's no reason to start throwing snark around for something they've never done and don't appear intent on doing.
How do you think Disney works, seriously? If there were going to do these things even if the guests don't want them, then they wouldn't bother with the time and cost of surveying. If survey results say "don't do this thing, we won't pay for it," then why would they do it?
NYwdwfan
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Have you seen the survey results? You don't know what they say any more than I do - so it's not fair to say they were all negative and it's never going to happen. All we know at this point is a survey went out and the event/item/charge in question has not - to this point - been implemented. That's not to say it never will.
asianway
Well-Known Member
Found the survey in question. It was $125, ride waits under 10 min, increased character experiences throughout the park, fireworks, and unlimited snacks. Look how that turned out
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
That's exactly my point. If these things happen, it means they surveyed positively. Ergo, Disney is giving their guests what they want. Ergo, there's no point in crying about a cash grab because the guests told Disney "we want this and we'll pay for it."
There's no scenario wherein negative survey feedback leads to a greenlit initiative. The things that Disney plans on doing regardless of what the guests say aren't things they waste their time surveying. For example, nobody is going to respond positively to the question "Would you like Disney to raise ticket prices?" So when Disney is going to raise ticket prices (a regular, plain-old price increase), they don't solicit feedback first. By definition, if it's an initiative they're bothering to survey, they're only going to do it if the survey results indicate they should. In that case, it's Disney listening to their guests and something to be encouraged.
pax_65
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As inconceivable as it is for me to imagine spending $150 to get the second EMH MK night I used to receive as part of my base ticket and resort stay, I wouldn't be surprised to see this event sell out. I'm sure Disney did survey it - which is why they set the price point where they did. Disney may be heartless, money-grubbing, and careless about their loyal customers, but they aren't completely stupid.