News Disney’s Q1 FY25 Earnings Results Webcast

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
As part of my upcoming manifesto, I note that Value Resort and table service meal prices have been flat or down since 2018, adjusted for inflation.

That would indicate that Disney's hit their limits there, and can only increase prices in line with inflation. It also exposes Food & Bev to swings in commodity prices. I learned more about the lamb market than expected.

This is one of the reasons why Yield Management is moving to dynamic ticket and hotel prices.
Since the “Parks” are multiple segments (cruises, parks themselves, etc) and even the Theme Parks have different revenue streams within it (eg retail, food and bev, and however they quantify LLMP and whatnot) how much grumbling and grousing is there from the normally stable fiefdoms within the parks (specifically, retail and food & bev) at the possible (likely?) cannibalization of their revenue at the altar of line-skipping services?
 

lentesta

Premium Member
I apologize, but I don’t really speak buisness, is this good or bad?

It's bad if you're a shareholder or management. It means that part of Parks revenue can't grow faster than inflation. Investors would be just as well off to put their money into bonds or an index fund. That lowers the stock price, which management and shareholders don't like.

I could be wrong about all that. Like I said, I stopped reading the Harvard Business Review when they took out the centerfolds.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
It's bad if you're a shareholder or management. It means that part of Parks revenue can't grow faster than inflation. Investors would be just as well off to put their money into bonds or an index fund. That lowers the stock price, which management and shareholders don't like.

I could be wrong about all that. Like I said, I stopped reading the Harvard Business Review when they took out the centerfolds.
And what happens if a big check is due to Universal for Hulu, or ad revenue plateaus (already there), or, God forbid, the streaming bubble pops?

There’s already some waning interest in NBA, and even the NFL viewership may have started to feel some gravity.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
I wonder how much of this relative profitability was the result of the DAS reconfigurations.

A couple of Wall Street quants I know from the bodega sandwich line seem to think Disney has a lot of room to increase prices on Lighting Lane. I'm sure Disney knows this.

Don't get me wrong - DAS abuse was rampant and had to be addressed. In the immortal words of Chairman Clench, the profit is merely a byproduct they've learned to live with.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
Share Repurchase Program
Effective February 7, 2024, the Board of Directors authorized the Company to repurchase a total of 400 million shares of its common stock. During the quarter ended December 28, 2024, the Company repurchased 7 million shares of its common stock for $0.8 billion (amount excludes the one percent excise tax on stock repurchases imposed by the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022). As of December 28, 2024, the Company had remaining authorization in place to repurchase approximately 365 million additional shares. The repurchase program does not have an expiration date.
https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archive...25000067/dis-20241228.htm#fact-identifier-550

A share repurchase is management saying they have no better ideas to use the money for.
 

Nobody nobody

Active Member
A couple of Wall Street quants I know from the bodega sandwich line seem to think Disney has a lot of room to increase prices on Lighting Lane. I'm sure Disney knows this.
that’s ominous lol. Never say “It can’t get worse” because it can and will.
Don't get me wrong - DAS abuse was rampant and had to be addressed. In the immortal words of Chairman Clench, the profit is merely a byproduct they've learned to live with.
Can we skip the to the part where a rabid alien escapes and eats Bob Iger already?
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
Not surprising, especially with the table service

I know for myself and many I speak to they are allocating their trip budgets differently vs adding to them (or at least not fully additive) .... So if now spending on things like lightning lanes, that has to come from somewhere and table service meals are a relatively simple are to cut back on.

Also just reducing number of park days due to ticket prices and if few hours of park time available, less likely to use up that time with an in park table service.

For the Value Resorts, wonder if reduction of bubble perks finally catching up there. I know our upcoming trip we are staying off property as the on site benefits aren't enough to justify the price variance
It becoming even more apparent that they really don't understand the parks at all. They were built for large crowds, full resorts which include the value ones, and people eating table service.
 

rle4lunch

Well-Known Member
A couple of Wall Street quants I know from the bodega sandwich line seem to think Disney has a lot of room to increase prices on Lighting Lane. I'm sure Disney knows this.

Don't get me wrong - DAS abuse was rampant and had to be addressed. In the immortal words of Chairman Clench, the profit is merely a byproduct they've learned to live with.
The 'let's rent a wheelchair' and get my family to the front of the line crap was wayyyyy out of hand.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
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Revenues - Theme park admissions​
Theme park admissions revenue growth was due to an increase of 4% from higher average per capita ticket revenue, partially offset by a decrease of 1% from lower attendance. The decrease in attendance reflected a decline at our domestic parks, including the impact of hurricanes at Walt Disney World Resort, partially offset by attendance growth at our international parks.​
Revenues - Resorts and vacations
Higher resorts and vacations revenue was due to increases of 2% from higher average daily hotel room rates, 1% from increased Disney Vacation Club sales and 1% from higher occupied room nights.​
Revenues - Park & Experiences merchandise, food and beverage
Parks & Experiences merchandise, food and beverage revenue growth resulted from an increase of 4% from higher average guest spending.​
Revenues - Merchandise licensing and retail
Lower merchandise licensing and retail revenue was due to decreases of 1% from merchandise licensing and 1% from an unfavorable Foreign Exchange Impact, partially offset by a 1% increase from retail.​
Revenues - Parks Licensing and Other
The increase in parks licensing and other revenue was due to higher real estate sales.​
Key metrics
In addition to revenue, costs and operating income, management uses the following key metrics to analyze trends and evaluate the overall performance of our theme parks and resorts, and we believe these metrics are useful to investors in analyzing the business:​

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(1)Per capita guest spending growth rate and per room guest spending growth rate exclude the impact of changes in foreign exchange rates.​
(2)Attendance is used to analyze volume trends at our theme parks and is based on the number of unique daily entries, i.e. a person visiting multiple theme parks in a single day is counted only once. Our attendance count includes complimentary entries but excludes entries by children under the age of three.​
(3)Per capita guest spending is used to analyze guest spending trends and is defined as total revenue from ticket sales and sales of food, beverage and merchandise in our theme parks, divided by total theme park attendance.​
(4)Occupancy is used to analyze the usage of available capacity at hotels and is defined as the number of room nights occupied by guests as a percentage of available hotel room nights.​
(5)Available hotel room nights is defined as the total number of room nights that are available at our hotels and at Disney Vacation Club (DVC) properties located at our theme parks and resorts that are not utilized by DVC members. Available hotel room nights include rooms temporarily taken out of service.​
(6)Per room guest spending is used to analyze guest spending at our hotels and is defined as total revenue from room rentals and sales of food, beverage and merchandise at our hotels, divided by total occupied hotel room nights.​
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
And what happens if a big check is due to Universal for Hulu, or ad revenue plateaus (already there), or, God forbid, the streaming bubble pops?

There’s already some waning interest in NBA, and even the NFL viewership may have started to feel some gravity.
As posted above, the largest possible last-payment on Hulu is $5B, which Disney can easily afford -- if it comes to that.

As for the other things you bring up, that's included under 'unpredictable economic headwinds' which Disney brings up every report since their guidance assumes no big problems, unless they occur. Otherwise, they'd be sued for not foreseeing things like surprise tariffs.

Any company can have a major disruption in the markets, disasters, political intrigue, waffles as expensive as eggs...
 

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