Disney’s Mufasa - the lion king

[DKampy]

Super Mario got a 95% popcorn rating on RT, 59% Rt score, and made $1.36Bn WW. Let’s see if Mufasa clears any of those.

Not really making any predictions on what Mufasa will do….just pointing out the hypothetical nature of some people regarding critics… which I have seen before even the film is released

 

[Disney Irish]

If Disney was paying for good scores, then Mufasa would have had good scores.

But you point out Mufasa didn't have good scores, which disproves your assumption (which has no proof, see below).

So, you've proved Disney doesn't pay for good reviews.

Your response to that is basically, "Oh, for *this* movie with bad reviews they didn't pay for them!"

Why wouldn't Disney, if they pay for good reviews, haven't already paid for them?

This is classic conspiracy theory. That when shown that ones 'theory' fails the logic test, the conspiracist comes up with an unlikely scenario (without proof) to show that they're assumptions (made without proof) are correct.


The second rebuttal to your mere surmising is this: No proof of any payola. There would be a paper trail of money. There would be disgruntled Disney employees or a reviewer who didn't think they got treated right (or they grew a conscience) who would have spilled the beans and put actual proof out there for all to see.

This falls in the fake moon landing conspiracy realm in which people believes the hundreds, if not thousands (including foreign governments) are all in on the deception with no one ever having blown the whistle.

To believe there is widespread review-buying is to believe also in an even more incredulous situation in which hundreds of people have kept silent on this deception.

You position on review-buying is unfounded, unproven, conspiracy theory. It exists only in your mind.

Not only that but what about other studios? Is Disney the only one paying for reviews in this fantasy scenario? I mean wouldn't reviewers encourage other studios to also pay them in this payola scheme so they can make more money? Or are they just too good to buy reviews? And if its every studio then there would not only be hundreds of Disney employees but hundred of thousands of other studio employees who would have to keep quiet about such a payola scheme.

Its why this whole conspiracy falls apart in about half a second if you really thing about it.

 

[DKampy]

I’m more curious how anyone could hate everything there. Or especially dislike the Disney machine that much and yet still gobble it up. But I know modern internet is about consuming secondary content about primary content. I know I’m guilty for this, I consume much less actual video games than content about video games. How that looks on the streaming front is probably angry YouTubers in this case.

Yes there is endless content online… it is easy to sink into a rabbit hole as once your done viewing one piece of content you are immediately suggested dozens more…. This is just a hunch… but I get the feeling the days of the angry YouTuber has already peaked…. All the constant negativity gets old and those YouTubers are very predictable… constantly repeating the same drivel over and over

 

[MickeyMouse10]

LOL, 88% audience score for Mufasa. They still got to get the critics to 60% or above though. Read some of these very detailed gems from the audience section. That really show they've seen the movie, there's no doubt about it.

"It was sooooo good. I cant decide which one I like more."
"Loved the music. Good story line. The grandkids loved it."
"Amazing storyline. JEJ would be proud!!"
"Great movie that tied in perfectly to the original."
"Wonderful, greatest movie!!"
"Absolutely amazing, visually stunning!!!"
"Excellent story, very entertaining!"

 

[DKampy]

LOL, 88% audience score for Mufasa. They still got to get the critics to 60% or above though. Read some of these very detailed gems from the audience section. That really show they've seen the movie, there's no doubt about it.

"It was sooooo good. I cant decide which one I like more."
"Loved the music. Good story line. The grandkids loved it."
"Amazing storyline. JEJ would be proud!!"
"Great movie that tied in perfectly to the original."
"Wonderful, greatest movie!!"
"Absolutely amazing, visually stunning!!!"
"Excellent story, very entertaining!"

That 88% is verified theatrical going audience…. When you include non-verified audience members into the mix it drops to 78%… but keep spinning your conspiracy theories to support your biased narrative

 

[Tha Realest]

The Lion King (2019) made $191M in the US alone its first weekend. Mufasa is going to make around $38M this weekend. It may not crack $191M in its entire domestic run.

 

[MickeyMouse10]

Barry Jenkins, the director of the film has had a lot of success in "recent" years. You can tell by his résumé why Disney hired him to replace Jon Favreau. All his stuff has a similar theme to it, that Disney likes. He's got a long list of movies and shows where the fictional characters go through struggles. Of course it's not their fault in all the movies and shows though, it's always society. And they are just innocent "victims" that did nothing wrong.

 

[Tha Realest]

Barry Jenkins, the director of the film has had a lot of success in "recent" years. You can tell by his résumé why Disney hired him to replace Jon Favreau. All his stuff has a similar theme to it, that Disney likes. He's got a long list of movies and shows where the fictional characters go through struggles. Of course it's not their fault in all the movies and shows though, it's always society. And they are just innocent "victims" that did nothing wrong.

 

[networkpro]

Looks like a battle at the top for imaginary dominance

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[MisterPenguin]

Why are you guys getting so mad? People are aloud to have differing opinions on things.

Your posts make it clear that you regard people as having an opinion different from yours to be defective in some way.

Why are you posting so mad?

 

[Disstevefan1]

The movie is fine. It’s not a blockbuster, but it’s fine.

With a 200M budget plus 100M to market it, to break even at the box office alone it needs to bring in about 600M

I am rooting for it to make at least 600M, it’s at 122M at the moment.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

this aint making $600 million

 

[MickeyMouse10]

Your posts make it clear that you regard people as having an opinion different from yours to be defective in some way.

Why are you posting so mad?

I don't know what you're talking about. Just because I'm putting down Disney doesn't mean I'm putting down you guys.

You aren't creating the movies and shows I am making fun of. I understand you love Disney, but there is no need to get offended if someone says they have been bad. Most of the stuff they've created lately (Marvel, Star Wars, etc) has paled in comparison to the past ones. They obviously haven't been getting the best people for the job (even with the parks), so their company has suffered because of it.

 

[MickeyMouse10]

The movie is fine. It’s not a blockbuster, but it’s fine.

With a 200M budget plus 100M to market it, to break even at the box office alone it needs to bring in about 600M

I am rooting for it to make at least 600M, it’s at 122M at the moment.

this aint making $600 million

Yeah, I predicted 500 million. But who knows? We'll just have to wait and see what the final tally is.

I'm hoping it gets less than 500 though, this way they stop acting like idiots. And we'll stop getting lackluster stuff. They need to start doing stuff with likable characters and great stories again.

 

[Disney Irish]

The movie is fine. It’s not a blockbuster, but it’s fine.

With a 200M budget plus 100M to market it, to break even at the box office alone it needs to bring in about 600M

I am rooting for it to make at least 600M, it’s at 122M at the moment.

I agree, its actually a fine movie. And agree its not a blockbuster. But I did see improvements over the first one especially with the CG animation of the animals, especially their expressions, which is something that many here begged needed to happen with the first one. So Disney did listen to fans in that regard.

I don't know what the totals will be, but it won't make anywhere near the first one. I could see it doing better overseas however, which so far is what is happening.

 

[networkpro]

The relevance is that if sufficient customers and potential customers don't consume the offered product to meet at least the investments by the company, the company is worse off than if they never did it.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

My thoughts

 

[MisterPenguin]

My thoughts

Where can we find your *dishonest* review?

 

[DKampy]

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This weekend yes…. We will see how the final tally is… I suspect Sonic is more front loaded then Mufasa and Mufasa will be more of the type of film the entire family will agree on over the holidays

Mufasa is already showing to have better holds then Sonic…. Mufasa 7 million to Sonic’s 9 million… after the latter double what the former made over the weekend

Note that I still think Mufasa will be a huge disappointment when compared to The (2019) Lion King

 

[MickeyMouse10]

This weekend yes…. We will see how the final tally is… I suspect Sonic is more front loaded then Mufasa and Mufasa will be more of the type of film the entire family will agree on over the holidays

Mufasa is already showing to have better holds then Sonic…. Mufasa 7 million to Sonic’s 9 million… after the latter double what the former made over the weekend

Note that I still think Mufasa will be a huge disappointment when compared to The (2019) Lion King

All depends on the global receipts, which Sonic hasn't expanded to yet. That is why Disney is bragging currently about being number 1 globally. Mufasa was not only put in more theaters in the U.S., but overseas it's already premiered. Whereas for some reason Sonic won't until later this week and January.