DHS to Get the DCA Treatment?

[IWant2GoNow]

It was either that or close the pavilion. Like the Wonders travesty but with no hope of reopening.

Wow... I didn't know it was almost cut completely!

The Living Seas was always one of my favorite pavilions. I would have been pretty sad on that one as I love seeing the manatees.

 

[xdan0920]

Also, I want my napkins back.

Are they still passing out the blank ones park wide? If so, this is starting to seem like a purposeful change, rather then a supply issue.

 

[Orangelake555]

Really? 80% of the show space was bare. Let alone the reconfigured vehicle orientation to try to hide the fact.

look back scene for scene. the sound tunnel was better in complete darkness. the star field vs a loading dock. the butterfly effect had more impact in the first redo. The gravity lab vs figments house looked better. I know this is all personal opinion but i really think the first one gets such a bad rap because Figment was only there in the last scene.

 

[aladdin2007]

look back scene for scene. the sound tunnel was better in complete darkness. the star field vs a loading dock. the butterfly effect had more impact in the first redo. The gravity lab vs figments house looked better. I know this is all personal opinion but i really think the first one gets such a bad rap because Figment was only there in the last scene.

There are some good points on that especially the butterfly effect, however making guests sit in complete darkness through an entire scene area just to hear a train sound was horrible. They clearly did not want to spend any money on an actual scene, it was rotten imagineering and zero imagination.

 

[Orangelake555]

There are some good points on that especially the butterfly effect, however making guests sit in complete darkness through an entire scene area just to hear a train sound was horrible. They clearly did not want to spend any money on an actual scene, it was rotten imagineering and zero imagination.

I agree that both of the new versions are awful. Im just saying the first one slightly less so. like getting a full cup of beer poured on you vs. 3/4 of a cup of beer. Both stink but ill take the 3/4 cup if that makes any sense

 

[djlaosc]

It was either that or close the pavilion. Like the Wonders travesty but with no hope of reopening.

So Wonders has a hope of reopening?

 

[djlaosc]

The Seas could have worked if it was closed in Epcot and reopened in DAK with a newer theme. The problem is, Sea World is an entire park devoted to The Seas concept, so a single land in DAK or a single pavilion in Epcot won't do it justice by comparison.

I think the Nemo overlay brought some life back into that pavilion. The queue for The Seas with Nemo and Friends is great, and there are decent components to the attraction. It's an improvement over a closed pavilion.

I think that The Living Seas should have been moved over to DAK at some point before now (probably between Asia and Everest, or Everest and Avatar) (could Mission:SPACE have gone where TLS is currently?)

• TLS is an area full of animals, DAK is full of animals
• TLS is a large, indoor area, DAK is the hottest park with more indoor areas needed
• TLS has a ride in it, DAK needs more attractions

I liked it when it was TLS (of course, the first time I went was 2002, so probably most of the original attraction had been stripped away (I know that the ride was not there at the time), and I like it now (the Nemo ride is better than no ride, Turtle Talk (I've never been) is probably good, and I can give or take the signposts with Nemo on them - they don't bother me), I just think that it is in the wrong park!

Of course, I'm sure TDO does not want to "waste" money by moving an attraction from one park to another.

 

[HMF]

It was either that or close the pavilion. Like the Wonders travesty but with no hope of reopening.

No Seas would be better than Seas with Nemo.

 

[Jim Handy]

I know it's a theme park land vs. a hotel, but there are so many similar components between Carsland and the Cars section of the Animation Suites. It would be a little redundant to clone Carsland. Honestly, if that much money is going to be poured into a project I'd much rather see something different. Carsland is very well executed, but the one Disney mantra is getting a little tired.

Also, I want my napkins back.

If you think about it, Cars Land vs Art of Animation is the perfect representation of DL vs WDW.

DL focuses on attractions while WDW focuses on hotels. Both additions are supposed to represent the same environment. One has full fledged mountains, the other huge murals on concrete blocks. One has AAs, one has fiberglass figures.

 

[Jim Handy]

No Seas would be better than Seas with Nemo.

Yeesh.

That's one hell of an ignorant thing to say.

It is also one reason we can't have nice things.

 

[ellie-badge]

No Seas would be better than Seas with Nemo.

Then by your logic, the half of Epcot that isn't World Showcase might as well not even exist at this rate. Three pavilions that are either closed or in utter despair would be horrible, it's hard to believe some people could even think that would be an improvement to the park.

Saying you don't like The Seas with Nemo and Friends is one thing, I think we're all civil enough to either agree or disagree and be on our merry way, but to say nothing would be better than something is just baffling. Nemo and Friends saved the pavilion by renewing interest in both the pavilion and marine life in general... I just don't understand, I'm sorry.

 

[TP2000]

If you think about it, Cars Land vs Art of Animation is the perfect representation of DL vs WDW.

DL focuses on attractions while WDW focuses on hotels. Both additions are supposed to represent the same environment. One has full fledged mountains, the other huge murals on concrete blocks. One has AAs, one has fiberglass figures.

While it's extreme, you kind of have a point there.

 

[RSoxNo1]

If you think about it, Cars Land vs Art of Animation is the perfect representation of DL vs WDW.

DL focuses on attractions while WDW focuses on hotels. Both additions are supposed to represent the same environment. One has full fledged mountains, the other huge murals on concrete blocks. One has AAs, one has fiberglass figures.

In a way, yes. However the Art of Animation can exist as Florida's version of Carsland if there is a comparable in park offering. In theory that would be Fantasyland, but it doesn't have the E-ticket anchor. Visually though, I expect Fantasyland to look as good, if not better than Carsland.

 

[ChrisFL]

look back scene for scene. the sound tunnel was better in complete darkness. the star field vs a loading dock. the butterfly effect had more impact in the first redo. The gravity lab vs figments house looked better. I know this is all personal opinion but i really think the first one gets such a bad rap because Figment was only there in the last scene.

This is like arguing who's the second worst team in the NFL

 

[Californian Elitist]

If you think about it, Cars Land vs Art of Animation is the perfect representation of DL vs WDW.

DL focuses on attractions while WDW focuses on hotels. Both additions are supposed to represent the same environment. One has full fledged mountains, the other huge murals on concrete blocks. One has AAs, one has fiberglass figures.

You make a valid point.

 

[Cybercat]

And the doom and gloom rolls on. Complain, complain, complain, whine, whine, whine. Do you guys ever actually post anything on topic? If you hate WDW so much, stop going already and move on with your life. I want to come here for news, but all I see is a bunch of manchildren with the attitude of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

 

[wm49rs]

http://www.wdwmagic.com/News.htm

Problem solved.

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

Are they still passing out the blank ones park wide? If so, this is starting to seem like a purposeful change, rather then a supply issue.

I was in WDW July 18 - 27 and all my napkins were blank.

 

[Jim Handy]

While it's extreme, you kind of have a point there.

Yeah, I know it is extreme. The hotel was never intended to be like the land and we shouldn't expect that. But I think I have some sort of a something there.

In a way, yes. However the Art of Animation can exist as Florida's version of Carsland if there is a comparable in park offering. In theory that would be Fantasyland, but it doesn't have the E-ticket anchor. Visually though, I expect Fantasyland to look as good, if not better than Carsland.

Fantasyland will be gorgeous when all is said and done. Even Storybook Circus looks great. Rich detail, full of texture.

But content. Content has been the issue since day 1. I'll give them credit for revising the plan. Personally, I don't think Mk really needs a new E ticket at the moment. I'm not one of those who complains that MK han't gotten an E Ticket since Splash.

 

[FigmentJedi]

look back scene for scene. the sound tunnel was better in complete darkness. the star field vs a loading dock. the butterfly effect had more impact in the first redo. The gravity lab vs figments house looked better. I know this is all personal opinion but i really think the first one gets such a bad rap because Figment was only there in the last scene.

And you know, that version starts right from the get go saying "HEY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION AT ALL! LET'S STIMULATE YOU WITH THESE RANDOM EFFECTS". What the hell happened to "Imagination is something that belongs to all of us"?