DHS Soundstage 1 Renovation - Toy Storia Mania expansion

Vegas Disney Fan

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The problem, I think, with most of our thinking is that we, as a group have been multiple times and know what we want to see and what we don't. We don't do everything because of that. So when an attraction is down we find ourselves with what we perceive as nothing to do. That's the thing with avid fans, we fail to see things from any eyes other then our own. I think to most new people, it is still a full day park especially if you have to wait for TSMM or either of the other two. Fant. takes up even more of the end of the day. Indiana Jones takes quite a bit of time as does LMA. Personally, I don't always do them all, sometimes none of them, that leaves me out of there by noon. But, we must remember that doesn't mean that they aren't there to do, we just don't do them.

I went to WDW for the first time last year and only scheduled one day at HS based on everything I read, I ended up going back for a half day the next day just because I missed so much, even with a day and a half I never saw a few things I wanted to see like LMA, the Backlot Tour, or the Beauty and the Beast show. HS doesn't have many rides but the ones it does have (Star Tours, TSMM, RnRC, and ToT) are awesome and ones I wanted to ride multiple times, add in several long shows with overlapping start times, F!, and a couple really fun restaurants and it's very hard park to do in one day.

I've had a DLR AP this year and it's surprising how many things I skip now without even thinking about them. I'll go for a weekend and miss a major like ToT or RSR and not even notice until I'm driving home, familiarity definitely changes our outlooks.
 

dhall

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IMHO Antarctica is actually worse than Superstar Limo. I'm not 100%sure, but I think the big problem with Superstar Limo is the budget got slashed and they went with animated figures and cardboard cutouts instead of actual AAs. Plus the story was pretty lame. It was still kinda fun even though it was cheesey and much better now with MI overlay.

With Antarctica I was actually wishing for a few animated cardboard cutouts. There was one decent show scene integrating screens, wind and the movement of the ride vehicle. The rest of the ride was just a bizarre spin around a strange environment with flashing psychadelic lighting. I think maybe you have to be high or something to get it. The trackless ride system is cool, but mostly wasted on such a lame ride. Plus it cost a ton to build making it an even larger failure.

I don't know what Rocket Redd's is. I tried looking it up and all I got was the Pizza place in Tomorrowland at DL. If it's like most pizza on Disney property it's probably between average and borderline terrible. I can't say I've ever eaten there.
I probably misspelled or misremembered the name -- it's the one season only replacement for the people mover that was supposed to be a high speed ride, but they cut the budget for banking the turns, which meant all the vehicles had to slow down for every turn.
 

Goofyernmost

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I probably misspelled or misremembered the name -- it's the one season only replacement for the people mover that was supposed to be a high speed ride, but they cut the budget for banking the turns, which meant all the vehicles had to slow down for every turn.
That was in Disneyland, not Disney World. I think that they were called Rocket Rods.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I probably misspelled or misremembered the name -- it's the one season only replacement for the people mover that was supposed to be a high speed ride, but they cut the budget for banking the turns, which meant all the vehicles had to slow down for every turn.
Oh yeah. I forgot about that thing. You may be right. That could be the biggest fail in theme park history. I'm not a frequent DLR visitor so I never rode it, but from what I have heard and read it was a disaster right from the start and was shut down within a year.
 

mahnamahna101

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Aug
Is A Huge Expansion “In Production” For Disney’s Hollywood Studios?
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Well, I think Disney tried their best to keep it a secret, but it seems that more observant park-goers have spotted some of the creative minds behind Cars Land at Disney California Adventure walking around Disney’s Hollywood Studios the last few days. What does this mean? Well, long before Cars Land ever opened at DCA, I had heard that Cars Land was coming 5 years later to Disney’s Hollywood Studios at Walt Disney World. Walt Disney Imagineering and company management know Cars Land is a big winner (selling tons of food, merchandise, and park tickets) and understand it can be just as big a hit, if not bigger, in Orlando. Even while I was wiritng this article, things have progressed even further with Kathy Mangum, one of the creative minds behind Cars Land, being promoted to an “executive producer” position at Walt Disney World.

Hollywood Studios has been in the midst of an identity crisis over the last 10 years as film production came to an end, the Disney animation studio shut-down, and the Residential Street section of the Backlot Tour was bulldozed. Lights, Motors, Action! Extreme Stunt Show has been a disaster since it opened 7 years ago, now only performing 2 shows a day and the Backlot Tour is an expensive attraction that doesn’t serve many guests on a daily basis. This plot would be perfect for Cars Land, and here’s where we think it will go (along with some of the other rumored additions we’ll be telling you about here):



Cars Land along with its attractions Radiator Springs Racers, Luigi’s Flying Tires, and Mater’s Junkyard Jamboree would certainly be enough to finally convince people that Hollywood Studios is a full-day park. So I know what you’re saying, “Tom, some sites have already been saying Cars Land is coming to Florida, so none of this is new.” You’re right, Cars Land isn’t exactly a stretch, but the larger plan to revamp the Studios over the next 6 years is much more than one large land…

Hollywood and Sunset Boulevard will finally see the arrival of the Red Car Trolley if all goes according to plan. The cars will be stored behind Rock ‘N’ Roller Coaster, where they will then come through the gate near the attraction’s entrance, turn onto Sunset Boulevard, and ride down to Hollywood Boulevard. Now, as for where they will travel from here, I have heard two scenarios: either they will swing left to the park entrance and then turn back towards Sunset Boulevard down a new street taking them past the Theater of the Stars or they will take a trip up to the Great Movie Ride, passing over what used to be the Sorcerer’s Hat before returning down Sunset Boulevard. I tend to think the route illustrated above is a little more realistic considering guest flow in certain areas.

I like the idea of a new street cutting towards Sunset Boulevard as it would make is much easier to get from the park entrance to Tower of Terror, Rock ‘N’ Roller Coaster, the Hollywood Hills Amphitheater, and Theater of the Stars. Speaking of Theater of the Stars, enjoy Beauty and the Beast Live on Stage while you can because that is currently scheduled to be the first thing leaving once work starts on this giant project. Similar to what happened to the Theater in the Wild at Animal Kingdom back in 2006, this theater will close for 10-12 months to be enclosed before a new show debuts. That new show? Tangled: The Musical.

I already mentioned that the Sorcerer’s Hat icon is history, but then what will be the park’s icon? Well, the old Chinese Theater facade on the Great Movie Ride is leaving as well since Disney no longer has the rights to use that on merchandise or in publicity materials. Since it works so well at the new and improved Disney California Adventure, expect to see a modified version of the Carthay Circle Theater plopped on front of the giant show building of the Great Movie Ride. Again, here’s a crude quick image I made to illustrate the location:



Unlike the Carthay Circle Theater in California, this facade will actually lead to a real theater: the existing pre-show room for the Great Movie Ride. However, just above the new loading area on the second and third floors will be a restaurant and lounge, just like the new building at DCA. Walt Disney World is always looking to add more fine dining and with Cinderella’s Royal Table inside the castle still as popular as ever, another restaurant inside a park icon would be a great idea. While the Great Movie Ride is closed to change the exterior, it is believed the interior will receive some much neeed TLC, and maybe even a new scene or two, hopefully just in time for the park’s 25th anniversary on May 1, 2014. Maybe it’s wishful thinking, but refurbishments like this often aren’t announced too far in advance, so it’s is likely that the Great Movie Ride could close sometime in early 2013 for these changes.

Moving beyond the Hollywood of the 1930’s, one of the most anticipated pieces of the project has to be “Star Wars Land”. I don’t think that will be the name, but a new show and dining experience should round-out the Star Wars offerings in the park nicely. The beloved Backlot Express restaurant will be converted into the Mos Eisley Cantina from Star Wars: A New Hope, allowing guests to interact with strange creatures at the bar and order even stranger menu items, maybe even some blue milk. Meanwhile, Jedi Training Academy will move into the former Sounds Dangerous theater for an entire new version of the show that incorporates an audio-animatronics living character figure of Yoda. I’ve also heard Disney will be looking to either expand the existing shop or build a new larger Star Wars store near-by as the current store just can’t hold all of the merchandise they have available, including space for things like the Droid Factory or the “Carbon Freeze Me” process.

Moving north, Muppet Studios is in for some investment as well, albeit not nearly as major as anything else that might happen in the park. Pizza Planet will become a counter service location themed to the Muppets, while Mama Melrose’s should become some sort of table service experience with the Swedish Chef. While The Muppets have proven popular, the safe investment would be in converting dining locations rather than constructing a new attraction to showcase them. I also expect to see a few Muppets living character shows roll around this area as well, such as the returning Muppet Mobile Labs with Bunson Honeydew and Beaker, or the long rumored Electric Mayhem band.

The final piece of the puzzle should be the long-rumored Monsters Inc. suspended roller-coaster including a giant scene in the door room from the film. This ride would still be heading to Soundstage 1 from what I am hearing. I know, it may be hard to believe this one as we have been hearing about it forever, but now that the company is looking to invest in the park, it seems likely that a ride already somewhat developed would be cheaper to add than something still in the early stages of creation.

There are also rumors of changes to Rock ‘N’ Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, and Fantasmic!, and the possible replacement of PIXAR Pals: Countdown to Fun with the PIXAR Play Parade currently running at Disney California Adventure. I won’t get into these simply because they are smaller projects and items being discussed in other places, but they should not be forgotten in the grand scheme of things. As for the time frame on this entire project, it should all be competed by 2018 with Cars Land being the final phase. I don’t have any more information than that.

We usually stay away from too much speculation on this site, but a good majority of this report has been substantiated from various sources over the last few months. I feel the need to point out that all of this is simply rumor at this point and it is possible that the entire project be cancelled much like numerous other projects over the 57 year history of the Disney Parks. So what do you think? Is this the extreme makeover Hollywood Studios needs to finally shed the old working studio theme?
Wouldn't be surprised if it's close to what's planned for this upcoming DHS makeover. Except no Cars Land, just a Pixar expansion. And I'm expecting an E-ticket for SWL
 

danlb_2000

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I would assume the fact that we're talking about a DHS makeover makes it a little relevant

Yes, but it was written two years ago before the Lucasfilm acquisition even happened, so even if it was true then, plans likely have changed since then. The article was wrong about the timeline for any changes to the GMR, and all indications are that they were also wrong about the Monsters's Inc coaster. The article has some interesting ideas, but at this point it's not worth any more then any other armchair imagineering.
 

mahnamahna101

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Yes, but it was written two years ago before the Lucasfilm acquisition even happened, so even if it was true then, plans likely have changed since then. The article was wrong about the timeline for any changes to the GMR, and all indications are that they were also wrong about the Monsters's Inc coaster. The article has some interesting ideas, but at this point it's not worth any more then any other armchair imagineering.
Right, but with WDI, an idea never really dies, so I'd expect some of the concepts from that proposal in the new makeover. It is armchair imagineering though
 

El Grupo

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Oh yeah. I forgot about that thing. You may be right. That could be the biggest fail in theme park history. I'm not a frequent DLR visitor so I never rode it, but from what I have heard and read it was a disaster right from the start and was shut down within a year.

I got to ride RR at least a couple of times before its demise. Guess I just got lucky with boarding times because I had fairly short waits despite the notoriously long lines that were typically associated with this attraction (it apparently went down almost daily).
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I would be very surprised if Carsland ends up in HS, at least on the same scale as DCA. One of the major problems with DCA 1.0 was they had huge high voltage power lines bordering the park, nothing screams Disney and escaping reality like seeing 100 foot tall towers and power lines towering over the park. The mountain range was a brilliant way of hiding those power lines with the added benefit it created an incredible backdrop for the land but without needing to hide the power lines I'm not sure you could justify the huge price tag.

Luigis Tires is also rumored to be getting replace at DCA, if true I'd put the chance of it ending up in HS at about zero.
 

matt9112

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pixar place better be amazing....and not look like the all star movie resort on steroid....way to ruin HWS...similar to the DCA makeover i do hope the budget for general park wide improvements...retouching up pieces here and there freshen up the entry way..remove the god awful hat and for arguments sake the theater too....and Jesus the animation courtyard...whoever designed that area for guest traffic flow... could totally cut that space "guest wise" in half do something better with it...remove the seclusive archway...fill echo lake in with concrete....expand the art deco look out into what was formally echo lake...to wrap around to 50s prime time (remove your sight-lines for star wars) you could cram a few nice small shops in this plan down by 50s prime time too.
 

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