DHS Soundstage 1 Renovation - Toy Storia Mania expansion

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
I think Star Wars will be included in this budget and if we do get a big thrill ride it will most likely be there and not in Pixar Place. I wish we could have one for both lands but oh well. At least the park is getting the attention it deserves. With AK getting Avatar, DHS getting a redo, and MK finishing Fantasyland, that leaves Epcot as the only park left not announced or rumored to be getting a major project. Hmmmmm........

That's correct… Star Wars will be a separate project then whatever this will be.
 

flyerjab

Well-Known Member
I agree on the timeline. I'm not expecting a finished product including SW Land until 2019 or 2020.

I'm not sure about a thrill ride. 2 of the 5 existing rides are already thrill rides and Star Tours has some juice as well. I am expecting the Pixar piece of the project to be family dark rides and/or flat rides with low or no height restrictions.

Star Wars has the potential for a true e-ticket which could be a thrill ride. I'm thinking maybe a hybrid of a coaster and a dark ride. Who knows, but the sky should be the limit for that one.

I am right there with you on that one @GoofGoof. Star Wars better have an E+ Ticket Ride; the worldwide popularity of this IP DEMANDS IT! I am typically more supportive of what WDW has been doing as of late, but this is one that I will not back down on. The Star Wars Land in the revitalized DHS Absolutely...Positively...Must Have...A Major E-Ticket Attraction!

Additionally, although this might not be high on everyone's list, I also would like the Cantina as a TS restaurant. I can only imagine being seated in there while an AA version of the band plays that iconic song. It should even include actors in costume that wander through or interact at the bar with the customers. It could become one of the most sought after dining experiences in any of the parks.

One thing I have been wondering concerning some of @Lee 's posts. He stated that Disney is serious about spending on this redo, and that so far, what he has uncovered has met his expectiations. What wasn't clear to me was if he was only referring to the Pixar Land area or the park as a whole, including Star Wars and whatever other changes are coming. And to that point, I am still trying to understand what this park will look like by 2019/2020. Will the front section with Hollywood and Sunset Blvds be the same? Would the RnRC potentially be rethemed? As this starts to flesh itself out more, will there be other areas? And Spirit mentioned in his post something about Guardians of the Galaxy. I am still trying to envision what might be coming. Jim Hill boldly stated that the Great Movie Ride is going away (I am assuming he meant replaced) and that the ride technology used in the Ratatouille Ride and Mystic Manor is coming to this park. Where is that going to fit in to this (if it is indeed happening)?

Certain elements of this are still unclear, and as @PhotoDave219 points out, nothing is confirmed until it is confirmed. As with Avatar though, I do like that it is still a guessing game at this point as to what is finally arriving. Even more so with Avatar is it is hidden from everyday viewing.

I can only hope that Disney's supposed spending fever doesn't end here. EPCOT, aside from the festivals that help drive up attendance, needs help.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
I am right there with you on that one @GoofGoof. Star Wars better have an E+ Ticket Ride; the worldwide popularity of this IP DEMANDS IT! I am typically more supportive of what WDW has been doing as of late, but this is one that I will not back down on. The Star Wars Land in the revitalized DHS Absolutely...Positively...Must Have...A Major E-Ticket Attraction!

Additionally, although this might not be high on everyone's list, I also would like the Cantina as a TS restaurant. I can only imagine being seated in there while an AA version of the band plays that iconic song. It should even include actors in costume that wander through or interact at the bar with the customers. It could become one of the most sought after dining experiences in any of the parks.

One thing I have been wondering concerning some of @Lee 's posts. He stated that Disney is serious about spending on this redo, and that so far, what he has uncovered has met his expectiations. What wasn't clear to me was if he was only referring to the Pixar Land area or the park as a whole, including Star Wars and whatever other changes are coming. And to that point, I am still trying to understand what this park will look like by 2019/2020. Will the front section with Hollywood and Sunset Blvds be the same? Would the RnRC potentially be rethemed? As this starts to flesh itself out more, will there be other areas? And Spirit mentioned in his post something about Guardians of the Galaxy. I am still trying to envision what might be coming. Jim Hill boldly stated that the Great Movie Ride is going away (I am assuming he meant replaced) and that the ride technology used in the Ratatouille Ride and Mystic Manor is coming to this park. Where is that going to fit in to this (if it is indeed happening)?

Certain elements of this are still unclear, and as @PhotoDave219 points out, nothing is confirmed until it is confirmed. As with Avatar though, I do like that it is still a guessing game at this point as to what is finally arriving. Even more so with Avatar is it is hidden from everyday viewing.

I can only hope that Disney's supposed spending fever doesn't end here. EPCOT, aside from the festivals that help drive up attendance, needs help.

The only thing that is 100% confirmed, has already started, but not actually announced is the third track of toy story
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
The problem with Disney is, Universal just started improving, in the mean time disney didn't feel it was necessary to expand/redo/add attractions/lands. Because the competition was almost non-existent. Besides that Disney should've realized when they first got word about Harry Potter world, they should've started to build IMMEDIATELY.
But for some reason chose not to. Which in the long run, could hurt them, my best advice to Disney right know is to get building!

While they should have built regardless, at that point I'm not sure people knew the reaction WWOHP would garner.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
While they should have built regardless, at that point I'm not sure people knew the reaction WWOHP would garner.
That could work for Hogsmeade but not Diagon Alley. I remember @WDW1974 said in the 8th wonder thread that Disney knew full well that Universal was planning to expand Harry Potter after its first great success and yet they still did nothing.
 

Stryker927

Member
Disney did nothing except go and buy Marvel, Star Wars, and lock in Pixar to ensure they had top brands that would be relevant for the next 20 years or more... Funny how easily the big picture is lost on the interwebs. Disney didn't get to be where they are without having a plan in place. They know they are safe to spend a little more time in the planning stages and really nail these next set of projects.

A reactive response would have just pointed to Disney being scared of Universal. While in fact they took it all in stride, built up their inventory of characters and brands, and are now looking at how to roll all of that out.

I honestly think everyone is going to be pretty surprised by the next 5 years worth of activity when it is all said and done.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
That could work for Hogsmeade but not Diagon Alley. I remember @WDW1974 said in the 8th wonder thread that Disney knew full well that Universal was planning to expand Harry Potter after its first great success and yet they still did nothing.

Agreed, I figured you meant the first HP. Before they even broke ground on DA they should have been striking back.
 

misterID

Well-Known Member
Disney did nothing except go and buy Marvel, Star Wars, and lock in Pixar to ensure they had top brands that would be relevant for the next 20 years or more... Funny how easily the big picture is lost on the interwebs. Disney didn't get to be where they are without having a plan in place. They know they are safe to spend a little more time in the planning stages and really nail these next set of projects.

A reactive response would have just pointed to Disney being scared of Universal. While in fact they took it all in stride, built up their inventory of characters and brands, and are now looking at how to roll all of that out.

I honestly think everyone is going to be pretty surprised by the next 5 years worth of activity when it is all said and done.

Avatar was reactive to UNI. Its announcement was reactive to the fanbase outrage at D23 over WDW not having anythig announced. They got Lucas's empire because he didn't want the stress anymore, and they've basically gutted it. MARVEL was a smart buy because of how terrible Disney's film and TV business was. And they desperately wanted the Disney name on those films -- that they had no hand in making. Forgive me if I don't hail buying Pixar as a genius move. It was there for the taking and they could only screw it up... which they almost did.

I give Iger credit for knowing what he could get out of MARVEL and Lucas, and that was great on the business front. And I'm guardedly excited about the upcoming additions of the parks... Not like their reactive response of jamming Frozen into Norway. ;)

I'm not going to ignore all the mistakes and now suddenly, in jt-esque fashion, suddenly say that all the failures were part of a great plan that led to this. I'm tempering the excitement with the history involved and the reasons they have to make these additions, mostly because the WDW parks have gone so long without real investment.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
That could work for Hogsmeade but not Diagon Alley. I remember @WDW1974 said in the 8th wonder thread that Disney knew full well that Universal was planning to expand Harry Potter after its first great success and yet they still did nothing.

Blue Ocean strategy. The best way to deal with competition is to pretend it doesn't exist and focus instead on pleasing the people you already have giving you money.
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
Star Wars has the potential for a true e-ticket which could be a thrill ride. I'm thinking maybe a hybrid of a coaster and a dark ride. Who knows, but the sky should be the limit for that one.

Yup I think Star Wars needs to be a Forbidden Journey level of attraction. Universal has shown that you can have two big rides for the same IP with Gringotts and Journey, so Disney should do something that is both epic in scale but also complements Star Tours well.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Disney did nothing except go and buy Marvel, Star Wars, and lock in Pixar to ensure they had top brands that would be relevant for the next 20 years or more... Funny how easily the big picture is lost on the interwebs. Disney didn't get to be where they are without having a plan in place. They know they are safe to spend a little more time in the planning stages and really nail these next set of projects.

A reactive response would have just pointed to Disney being scared of Universal. While in fact they took it all in stride, built up their inventory of characters and brands, and are now looking at how to roll all of that out.

I honestly think everyone is going to be pretty surprised by the next 5 years worth of activity when it is all said and done.

Yeah, everyone except those of us who don't care about Star Wars and Marvel. I go to a Disney park to see Disney-created characters and attractions, not Iger's acquisitions. But to each his own...
 

michael.fumc

Well-Known Member
As long as the "big Star Wars ride" relies on animatronics rather than screens....Star Tours already does the screen thing, let's see some robots!
They have done the screen ride!! and have done it very very well. Family rides this ride no less than 8 times during our trips to WDW, the changing locations are awesome, and I feel they can't make that style of ride any better. Also the queue is one of WDW's best. If Star Wars attractions are coming, they need to be something other than screens, something new, with a wow factor. If it doesn't, they shouldn't bother, in my opinion.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Yeah, everyone except those of us who don't care about Star Wars and Marvel. I go to a Disney park to see Disney-created characters and attractions, not Iger's acquisitions. But to each his own...
Imho, that's why I think they keep insisting the market is saturated.
They think they have all the fans they can attract from Disney branded products and derivatives.

To attract new clients and fans... they had to expand and buy third party IP. (including James Cameron's Avatar)
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Imho, that's why I think they keep insisting the market is saturated.
They think they have all the fans they can attract from Disney branded products and derivatives.

To attract new clients and fans... they had to expand and buy third party IP. (including James Cameron's Avatar)

I agree, that's what the Disney suits probably think. But they're idiots IMO. For example, the Pandora-in-AK project has drawn a collective "meh" from the public. But if Disney had announced a new Jungle Book dark ride, or a Pride Lands...land...the public would go nuts. And again, what about Mary Poppins? Or how about expanding Peter Pan's Flight into a fully-developed Neverland area? "Saturated"? HUH. As IF.
 

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