DHS Soundstage 1 Renovation - Toy Storia Mania expansion

[GoofGoof]

im still doubting the cars land rumor

Remember it was rumored about a year ago that both Carsland and SW were coming to DHS. Then they pulled back because of MM+ overruns. Could be time.

I'm in the camp that thinks we get the scaled down version of RSR though. The outdoor portion with the mountains will likely be left out or possibly just scaled down.

 

[Cesar R M]

You shouldn't, because it was (and may still be), very much on the table.

I still wonder why Disney Parks group does not try to make each park different and special.
Leave carsland to DCA and add monstropolis or another pixar type land.

that would incite visiting ALL parks, not just one to see "the same".

Call me crazy, but I really don't want a Carsland.

We have Test track, such a similar concept.

But mostly because California Adventure, Disney Studios, and Hollywood Studios all need/needed something to make them stand out and boost attendance.

California Adventure got Carsland.
Disney Studios got Ratatouille.
Hollywood Studios deserves something that makes it stand out too. Something unique to HS.

exactly!

 

[PhotoDave219]

They need to do something and something big at the studios. It needs a LOT. More then any other park.

 

[GoofGoof]

I still wonder why Disney Parks group does not try to make each park different and special.
Leave carsland to DCA and add monstropolis or another pixar type land.

that would incite visiting ALL parks, not just one to see "the same".

The number of guests who overlap is pretty small. Especially at the international parks. Cloning rides saves money on r&d, design and construction.

 

[flynnibus]

RSR could be reworked into a dark ride using conventional ride vehicles instead of test track cars... that could be interesting if they replaced the finale/etc. Obviously the existing implementation couldn't stand on its own, but you could take the concept and expand it... leaving the 'racers' part behind and do a more classic dark ride. Then you'd avoid the flickle TT ride system and also have everything indoors.

Just an idea...

 

[samosaurus]

So, if they do expand Pixar Place, here are just some of the possible things that could go there:

Toy Story- TSMM expansion, Toy Story Land from HK DL
A Bugs Life- A Bug's Land from DL (probably not as likely, since It's Tough to be a Bug is already at AK)
Monsters, Inc.- Door coaster, Monstropolis, move Laugh Floor from MK, Mike & Sulley to the Rescue from DL
Finding Nemo- Crush's Coaster from DLP
The Incredibles- Dark Ride/Coaster
Cars- Cars Land from DL
Ratatouille- Ratatouille: The Adventure from DLP
Wall-E: Dark ride
UP: Dark ride (possibly similar to Peter Pan's Flight)
Brave: ???

Of course, there could also be various restaurants, M&Gs, or other completely unique rides.

 

[MichWolv]

RSR could be reworked into a dark ride using conventional ride vehicles instead of test track cars... that could be interesting if they replaced the finale/etc. Obviously the existing implementation couldn't stand on its own, but you could take the concept and expand it... leaving the 'racers' part behind and do a more classic dark ride. Then you'd avoid the flickle TT ride system and also have everything indoors.

Just an idea...

I'd guess an outdoor part as well that takes the ride through Catastrophe Canyon (reworked, of course).

 

[Mike S]

The number of guests who overlap is pretty small. Especially at the international parks. Cloning rides saves money on r&d, design and construction.

That is true but something like RSR and maybe even Ratatouille should stay where they are. RSR is the main draw to DCA right now. If it came to WDW that's potential visitors to Disneyland that are lost. Disney spent a lot redoing DCA, they deserve to keep their main attraction unique. As for Ratatouille I heard someone say a while ago that a lot more people go to WDW than to DLP even though DLP would be closer to them. Ratatouille is a great excuse to make them interested in making that trip to DLP. If it was at WDW that interest would be gone.

 

[GoofGoof]

RSR could be reworked into a dark ride using conventional ride vehicles instead of test track cars... that could be interesting if they replaced the finale/etc. Obviously the existing implementation couldn't stand on its own, but you could take the concept and expand it... leaving the 'racers' part behind and do a more classic dark ride. Then you'd avoid the flickle TT ride system and also have everything indoors.

Just an idea...

This makes sense. For the cost of the full RSR they could build the dark ride you describe plus a basic Monsters dark ride and still have cash left over for a m&g or 2 and some themed bathrooms. They need people eating family rides that still run in the rain/lightning.

 

[ToTBellHop]

They need to do something and something big at the studios. It needs a LOT. More then any other park.

It certainly needs to be flashier than

And more air-conditioned.

But, surely Disney knows that.

 

[MichWolv]

So, if they do expand Pixar Place, here are just some of the possible things that could go there:

Toy Story- TSMM expansion, Toy Story Land from HK DL
A Bugs Life- A Bug's Land from DL (probably not as likely, since It's Tough to be a Bug is already at AK)
Monsters, Inc.- Door coaster, Monstropolis, move Laugh Floor from MK
Finding Nemo- Crush's Coaster from DLP
The Incredibles- Dark Ride/Coaster
Cars- Cars Land from DL
Ratatouille- Ratatouille: The Adventure from DLP
Wall-E: Dark ride
UP: Dark ride (possibly similar to Peter Pan's Flight)
Brave: ???

Of course, there could also be various restaurants, M&Gs, or other completely unique rides.

Monsters Inc Ride and Go Seek from Tokyo

 

[doctornick]

RSR could be reworked into a dark ride using conventional ride vehicles instead of test track cars... that could be interesting if they replaced the finale/etc. Obviously the existing implementation couldn't stand on its own, but you could take the concept and expand it... leaving the 'racers' part behind and do a more classic dark ride. Then you'd avoid the flickle TT ride system and also have everything indoors.

Just an idea...

Exactly. The dark ride portion is impression and engaging in its own right. Change the storyline and expand it a bit and you could have a quality ride with a smaller footprint/cost and avoid the frequent shutdowns and issues with an outdoor portion in rainy central Florida.

When it was looked at, an exactly clone of Cars Land would take up basically all the space of BLT and LMA, but RSR is a huge chunk of that. A clone of Radiator Springs plus a dark ride at the end of the street could probably fit into half the space and leave a lot of other space available for Monsters/Toy Story/Incredibles/Ratatoille/etc.

 

[The Visionary Soul]

It certainly needs to be flashier than

And more air-conditioned.

But, surely Disney knows that.

But that would be so easy and cheap and quick to build!

 

[GoofGoof]

That is true but something like RSR and maybe even Ratatouille should stay where they are. RSR is the main draw to DCA right now. If it came to WDW that's potential visitors to Disneyland that are lost. Disney spent a lot redoing DCA, they deserve to keep their main attraction unique. As for Ratatouille I heard someone say a while ago that a lot more people go to WDW than to DLP even though DLP would be closer to them. Ratatouille is a great excuse to make them interested in making that trip to DLP. If it was at WDW that interest would be gone.

It's zero sum for TWDC. If someone goes to WDW instead of DLR they still get their money.

How many east coast people won't go to CA to see it but would make a trip to WDW to see Carsland? Lots of people drive to WDW or take a short, cheap flight.

If you look at it from a business standpoint it makes sense to clone.

 

[Mike S]

It's zero sum for TWDC. If someone goes to WDW instead of DLR they still get their money.

How many east coast people won't go to CA to see it but would make a trip to WDW to see Carsland? Lots of people drive to WDW or take a short, cheap flight.

If you look at it from a business standpoint it makes sense to clone.

I meant when both are built, not before WDW got Cars Land. Of course people would go to DL now to see it if they really wanted to. I just feel like DCA deserves to keep its main attraction right now.

 

[wdwmagic]

They need to do something and something big at the studios. It needs a LOT. More then any other park.

Yep agreed, although Epcot isn't far behind, and as the years tick it on it will soon be in a similar position as the Studios is right now.

 

[SirLink]

But that would be so easy and cheap and quick to build!

Well quick rules that out and overseas sure it is cheap. US not so much.

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

You just promise to take him drinking and he'll go anywhere. If Lasseter stays overnight in Orlando, 10 bucks says you'll find him at a bar or lounge at Disney tonight somewhere.

I guess we owe you 10 bucks. He was at the River Roost Lounge last night.

 

[MichWolv]

It's zero sum for TWDC. If someone goes to WDW instead of DLR they still get their money.

How many east coast people won't go to CA to see it but would make a trip to WDW to see Carsland? Lots of people drive to WDW or take a short, cheap flight.

If you look at it from a business standpoint it makes sense to clone.

Yes it does. Particularly from international parks. Even with all the cloning, there's still a good amount of unique stuff at each park. I think cloning will still be the rule of the day. I would expect that just about any successful attraction will eventually be cloned at least once. And that's not a bad thing. It probably results in more new attractions per park than we'd otherwise get.

 

[flynnibus]

I'd guess an outdoor part as well that takes the ride through Catastrophe Canyon (reworked, of course).

Meh... then you are back to having a system that runs outside and a ride system that supports it. The main premise of my concept was to remove the elaborate, complex TT ride system and replace with something much simpler... but still dressed as the cars. Thus gaining cost savings, reliability, and all weather operations.

Plus, what do you reuse in CC that fits the cars universe? I think it's time for CC to meet the wreck IMO.