DHS Parking lot remodel and expansion

[ToTBellHop]

You mean the dead theme.

The characters line up with the attractions in the park. That is all. No crying. Nothing has been lost.

I would argue some of the park’s original charm is leaving, overall, but the new entrance looks better than the old and the bulk of the additions inside the park replace areas that hadn’t “worked” for many years. I thank my lucky stars that we keep Hollywood and Sunset Blvds. along with the Chinese Theatre (even Echo Lake has been improved). They are the thematic hearts of the park even if they don’t have an appropriate “capstone ride” any more.

It’s a net plus for me. Unfortunately, “our charming movie park” doesn’t get hotel rooms booked. People want EPIC!

 

[flyerjab]

Photos from today.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Posted elsewhere...

The new bus stops are scheduled to open March 19,2019

 

[Driver]

Posted elsewhere...

Did a search and couldn't find it

 

[Rteetz]

 

[rudyjr13]

Did a search and couldn't find it

Hey that was me! I replied to bioteconstruct and asked the question.

 

[surfsupdon]

Do we have an overhead view of the new bus loop and the location of each resort stop? I enjoy looking at things like that, to see where each resort stop is placed.

Thank you.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Do we have an overhead view of the new bus loop and the location of each resort stop? I enjoy looking at things like that, to see where each resort stop is placed.

Thank you.

No. Though signs for them should be up any day now.

 

[WDWtraveler]

Photo update as of Saturday, March 16, 2019. New sign-posts have been installed around and within Hollywood Studios parking areas, in preparation for the parking areas being renamed. While the actual placards are not inserted yet, these new art-deco style signs include new posts at the ends of the parking rows, and signs attached to existing light poles scattered within the parking areas. (@flyerjab must have been following me today. We took some of the same photos.)

Most of the Disney resort destinations are now identified with their "Gates." In case you are wondering about resort hierarchy and Gate numbering, deluxe resorts are at the lower Gate numbers, Pop Century is at Gate 35, and Art of Animation is at Gate 37.

 

[mm121]

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Huge improvement over what was there before as don't recall DHS having any true shelters at the bus area.

And improves to security are never a bad thing. Wonder if they are maybe making preparations for more metal detectors since they would need better sheltere than just the tents to keep them from getting wet.

 

[flynnibus]

The Skyliner is moving in plus constraint #1 means that the bus loop had to move from it's old place. The next question then is where the bus loop can go given that it is moving.
a. I don't think they can fit it in where the parking tram space is.
b. I'd guess that the next decision was to put the medical parking in the nearest prime spot where it is now.
c. I think they feel like the "3 bus loop" design is successful, so they have two options - put it to the north or south of medical parking. Note that in either case, I think you end up with the same "far" distance. I do think that this "3 bus loop" design satisfies constraint #2 (don't want people crossing in front of buses)
d. Putting it to the north of medical parking allows satisfaction of constraint #2, given constraint #4.

The bus line doesn’t have to be one long straight line
Medical parking doesn’t have to take priority over the other delivery mechanisms/entrance needs. It’s more about its placement verse other parking


I think the biggest piece (no pun) is they’ve made the bus terminal something of such scale and you’ve done all this right at grade... so there is incentive to keep it “off to the side” because you don’t want it to be the full focus and drag on your entrance design. I just don’t like how Disney is making this transportation option less and less attractive... all awhile leaning on it so heavily. Give the buses more priority than the trams IMO.... you don’t want people driving and yet you give them prime space?

 

[Next Big Thing]

The bus line doesn’t have to be one long straight line
Medical parking doesn’t have to take priority over the other delivery mechanisms/entrance needs. It’s more about its placement verse other parking


I think the biggest piece (no pun) is they’ve made the bus terminal something of such scale and you’ve done all this right at grade... so there is incentive to keep it “off to the side” because you don’t want it to be the full focus and drag on your entrance design. I just don’t like how Disney is making this transportation option less and less attractive... all awhile leaning on it so heavily. Give the buses more priority than the trams IMO.... you don’t want people driving and yet you give them prime space?

The issue is how the buses would get to the front where the tram drop off is if you swapped the two. The way they have it now with the old entrance off of Buena Vista being buses only makes it so that it's very convenient for them to get to the shelters her, whereas what you're seemingly talking about would have them crossing the parking lot and also have the trams crossing the lot awkwardly.

I know that this entire parking lot has basically been redone, but the one part that hasn't is the road that the tram takes. Since the parking stretches so far to that side now, it just doesn't make any logistical sense to move the main route the tram takes and since they didn't move that route, the dropoff really has to stay in the same general area.

 

[flynnibus]

Huge improvement over what was there before as don't recall DHS having any true shelters at the bus area.

They did... just the extended queues that became the norm were bigger than the shelters that were there

 

[flynnibus]

The issue is how the buses would get to the front where the tram drop off is if you swapped the two. The way they have it now with the old entrance off of Buena Vista being buses only makes it so that it's very convenient for them to get to the shelters her, whereas what you're seemingly talking about would have them crossing the parking lot and also have the trams crossing the lot awkwardly.

Using the entrance specifically for buses is probably the best element of the new design. I agree about traffic needing to cross each other.. and that would have to be tackled at a much higher level than what is available now after other decisions were made. For instance, what if buses came in from the south, etc.

But maybe other things could be possible too.. like why is the skyliner on the north side near the water? What if it just continued further to the side were the tram is now, and you made the lakeside all along the area bus, etc.

There are many decisions that are intermixed in the design... I just thought it was incorrect to say it had to be this way because a,b,c, which are all themselves just choices. There is something to be said about showing how the pieces all fit together BEST when done in a specific configuration.

I do think the buses still get the short-end of the stick here... I wish they could just kill the trams and replace them with designing a moving walkway that reliably worked outdoors. Probably a fantasy in FL weather... I just think the trams have been so nerf'd they aren't very time efficient.

 

[Monorail_Red_77]

Here's a google Earth from May 2017 showing the old Disney Bus area with the small shelters. Shown in the middle area between tram drop off on the left and charter bus lot on the right. As typical charter bus area has no shelters.

 

[joelkfla]

Medical parking doesn’t have to take priority over the other delivery mechanisms/entrance needs. It’s more about its placement verse other parking

So you want handicapped people to walk further so you don't have to walk as far to your bus?

 

[flynnibus]

So you want handicapped people to walk further so you don't have to walk as far to your bus?

I'm just stating facts and correcting misconceptions.

Have you looked at every other Disney park? HC accessible parking is not at the front door to the park.

 

[Timothy_Q]

I'm just stating facts and correcting misconceptions.

Have you looked at every other Disney park? HC accessible parking is not at the front door to the park.

Dude just walk a little.

It's impossible for everything to be right next to the park entrance

The distance between the new bust stops and the park entrance is basically the same from your car to the tram, if you've parked far away.

 

[matt9112]

is it wierd that this stuff is more interesting to me than actual rides and stuff.

 

[flynnibus]

It's impossible for everything to be right next to the park entrance

Correct, but it's also not impossible to design a system that encourages certain behaviors and discourages others.. and to build priorities into your design... and more.