DHS Makeover - What we know so far.....

Phicinfan

Well-Known Member
Silly question, bear with me as I am not in the know, but aren't they putting a blue sky area in DHS to show new development? If so, any news on when as that will probably lock in alot of this speculation won't it?
 

Sue_Vongello

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so when do you guys think disney will "give us more info" about all of this up and coming stuff??

Also am I the only one who wants a pixar meet and greet like what they have for Epcot for Disney and friends but like a Pixar version where you can meet the characters that wont have an IP land?

No more meet and greets please. I just got back from DL and it's so refreshing to see the characters just walking around and interacting with guests instead of ONLY at designated areas.

That being said ... if the new concept of DHS is to have the front be like "old hollywood" and the back be like "in the movies" ... then why couldn't you have all those pixar characters etc ... walking around like they live/exist in old hollywood. I think that would be phenomenal.
 

Sue_Vongello

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Isn't there going to be another major attraction in DHS? I guess it is Cars Land then.

There is speculation that there is more coming and there is land they want to use for expansion and Carsland is referenced here alot. So yeah you're probably on the right track.

And please don't think I was trying to be antagonistic towards your post ... I just saw you mentioned Frozen and thought it was peculiar and wanted to ask if someone had mentioned that or if that is a rumor because honestly ... that'd be so weird to have lands in two different parks, right?
 

Disneyhead'71

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Silly question, bear with me as I am not in the know, but aren't they putting a blue sky area in DHS to show new development? If so, any news on when as that will probably lock in alot of this speculation won't it?
Maybe later. Right now, Star Wars Launch Bay is going in the spot the Blue Sky Lounge was rumored to go in.
 

1023

Provocateur, Rancanteur, Plaisanter, du Jour
Its like we're trying to put together a jigsaw puzzle without knowing what the picture is....

I got this sense sort of too...the parks and resorts presentation was very awkward at times and the whole thing seemed structured oddly - like they were trying to choose their words carefully and avoid certain things. i wouldn't hold out too much hope but with the idea that they're trying to transition DHS into being essentially a Universal equivalent thematically (ride the movies instead of see the movies be made) it would seem like you need to do more than just build two lands to tie it all together.

There are more than a few pieces missing from the puzzle. The presentation was a Cliff's notes version of an unfinished story with pages torn out and run over by the passing tractor. Then the DoD got out the black marker and redacted the heck out of it.

The most straight forward thing presented at D23 Expo for the "parks" was Toy Story (play)Land. The concept art for Star Wars was limited to overall shots or "elevations". The concepts presented as attractions were intentionally vague. The attraction list provided is incomplete.

Watch things start to happen (in Florida) as early as October and as late as January. You can indulge your Anaheim inferiority complex until then.

*1023*
 

Mawg

Well-Known Member
So I just had a thought, The BOD supposedly approved a 3.4 bil budget for HS with a chunk going of 300 mil going to MK and Epcot (don't recall if those numbers are exactly right). But what if the chunks where approved for the other parks because changes to HS where going to directly affect the other parks, meaning they are really still part of the HS budget for improvements but to make it work they are going to have to make changes to these other parks as well. As an example, what if there is an MI area planned and they don't want to keep the Laugh Floor in MK when they have a new MI land at HS, so they have to kick 300 mil to the MK for a replacement so that HS can move forward (same could be said for Space Ranger). It's really still part of the overall plan for HS that they would have presented to the BOD. Just a thought.
 

MKeeler

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From a purely park operations/management perspective I think Toy Story Land and Star Wars Land both need one more family "flat" ride, to divert crowds. Something like Mater's ride in DCA themed around Pod Racing for Star Wars Land could work? And maybe a clone of one of those rides from Playland in Tokyo ... something cheap (gross) to bump up ride counts and divert crowds.

Upon further reflection I think that's one of my major problems with these "announcements" for DHS specifically ... because it doesn't address some of the major problems with the park ... i.e. number of attractions and number of attractions that are accessible for all ages.

Now I know @marni1971 mentioned more is coming, which is just great. So maybe those issues get addressed. But that is why TSMM is so insane with lines because its in a small minority of rides there that everyone can get on ... that needs to be corrected.

This is why I'm just cautiously optimistic about both of the announcements. If the new lands are going in the most heavily rumored spots for each location, I fear that this will leave DHS with the worst attraction count of any Disney theme park. If Star Wars Land is indeed taking over the area directly left of Hollywood Blvd including the Sounds Dangerous and Superstar Theaters and the Indiana Jones Stunt Show area, and if Toy Story Land is going behind Toy Story Mania, I get 15 or 16 attractions remaining in DHS depending on the rumors:
1. Tower of Terror
2. Rock-n-RollerCoaster
3. something @ Beauty & the Beast
4. Great Movie Ride
5. Disney Jr.
6. Something in Animation Academy - Launch Bay
7. Jedi Training
8. Millenium Falcon
9. First Order/Resistance Attraction
10. Star Tours?
11. Muppets?
12. LMA?
13. Slinky Dog
14. Toy Story Mania
15. Little Green Men
16?. something @ Little Mermaid?

To put things in perspective, Disney Studios Paris has 17 attractions. That's terrible, especially for a park with capacity issues already. DHS needs the RC Racer and a revamped Parachute Drop added to Toy Story Play Land and a complete A Bug's Land in addition to whatever will be revamping the LMA/SOA/Muppets area, just to address capacity.

Hopefully any announcements in the future will show that Disney recognizes this need. Otherwise I fear you will see extremely long lines for the few attractions they have and everyone else dumped out to admire lush themed environments.
 

Sue_Vongello

Well-Known Member
This is why I'm just cautiously optimistic about both of the announcements. If the new lands are going in the most heavily rumored spots for each location, I fear that this will leave DHS with the worst attraction count of any Disney theme park. If Star Wars Land is indeed taking over the area directly left of Hollywood Blvd including the Sounds Dangerous and Superstar Theaters and the Indiana Jones Stunt Show area, and if Toy Story Land is going behind Toy Story Mania, I get 15 or 16 attractions remaining in DHS depending on the rumors:
1. Tower of Terror
2. Rock-n-RollerCoaster
3. something @ Beauty & the Beast
4. Great Movie Ride
5. Disney Jr.
6. Something in Animation Academy - Launch Bay
7. Jedi Training
8. Millenium Falcon
9. First Order/Resistance Attraction
10. Star Tours?
11. Muppets?
12. LMA?
13. Slinky Dog
14. Toy Story Mania
15. Little Green Men
16?. something @ Little Mermaid?

To put things in perspective, Disney Studios Paris has 17 attractions. That's terrible, especially for a park with capacity issues already. DHS needs the RC Racer and a revamped Parachute Drop added to Toy Story Play Land and a complete A Bug's Land in addition to whatever will be revamping the LMA/SOA/Muppets area, just to address capacity.

Hopefully any announcements in the future will show that Disney recognizes this need. Otherwise I fear you will see extremely long lines for the few attractions they have and everyone else dumped out to admire lush themed environments.

So I wasn't the only one ... sigh ... I was hoping I was just a crazy old lady now.
 

Mawg

Well-Known Member
This is why I'm just cautiously optimistic about both of the announcements. If the new lands are going in the most heavily rumored spots for each location, I fear that this will leave DHS with the worst attraction count of any Disney theme park. If Star Wars Land is indeed taking over the area directly left of Hollywood Blvd including the Sounds Dangerous and Superstar Theaters and the Indiana Jones Stunt Show area, and if Toy Story Land is going behind Toy Story Mania, I get 15 or 16 attractions remaining in DHS depending on the rumors:
1. Tower of Terror
2. Rock-n-RollerCoaster
3. something @ Beauty & the Beast
4. Great Movie Ride
5. Disney Jr.
6. Something in Animation Academy - Launch Bay
7. Jedi Training
8. Millenium Falcon
9. First Order/Resistance Attraction
10. Star Tours?
11. Muppets?
12. LMA?
13. Slinky Dog
14. Toy Story Mania
15. Little Green Men
16?. something @ Little Mermaid?

To put things in perspective, Disney Studios Paris has 17 attractions. That's terrible, especially for a park with capacity issues already. DHS needs the RC Racer and a revamped Parachute Drop added to Toy Story Play Land and a complete A Bug's Land in addition to whatever will be revamping the LMA/SOA/Muppets area, just to address capacity.

Hopefully any announcements in the future will show that Disney recognizes this need. Otherwise I fear you will see extremely long lines for the few attractions they have and everyone else dumped out to admire lush themed environments.

I have a feeling that internally they are having issues that are going kind of like this. Let's add a bugs land, wait we already have It's tough to be a bug at AK, so do we remove it or not build a Bug land or have it in both places. How about Indiana, no...I like Indiana better at MK, let's save it for future MK development. They have spread their IP's so far across the four parks it's probably hard to come to any kind of agreements.
 

MKeeler

Well-Known Member
I have a feeling that internally they are having issues that are going kind of like this. Let's add a bugs land, wait we already have It's tough to be a bug at AK, so do we remove it or not build a Bug land or have it in both places. How about Indiana, no...I like Indiana better at MK, let's save it for future MK development. They have spread their IP's so far across the four parks it's probably hard to come to any kind of agreements.

One could hope, but it would just play into my other fear that they have absolutely no long term plan for DHS (or any other park for that matter). To me, the idea that Star Wars Land would start immediately off of Hollywood Blvd with no transition and no room for any other Lucasfilm property expansion is the biggest symptom of that .
 

stretchsje

Well-Known Member
What were the rumors years ago about an Incredibles ride? Wasn't that pure fan-made hopes and dreams? Where was it to go?

A Monsters, Inc ride was definitely developed and leaked out in ~2008. Jim Hill says they're circling back on the idea but it's not a lock yet. Cars Land seems like a no-brainer based on its success in California (plus a 3rd movie on the way) and several insiders confirmed this as likely.

Were there ever any other credible ideas ("credible" as in someone who could know corroborated the possibility) floating around on the short list of other Pixar IPs to put in Hollywood Studios? There's so much fan-generated armchair engineering that it's hard to remember what has been substantiated (even in the smallest of ways) over the past five years.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
There is no way this park is going to be able to handle the crowds these new attractions are going to draw w/o a major land expansion. Think about it, we are talking SWL, TSL and a 3rd land to be announced (Cars and/orFrozen). Taking a sliver out of the parking lot isn't going to cut it. What am I missing here?

Well, we know Toy Story land is going almost entirely in what is currently back stage areas. If a version of Carsland or something like it takes the area where LMA is, that will be a net plus since it will LMA is only performed twice a day.
 

mbad

New Member
They haven't come out and confirmed anything as to what is leaving beyond the Animation Tour, which is gone. Same with backlot tour.

It is expected by me & a bunch of others that One Man's Dream will close soon. Voyage of the Little Mermaid is rumored to go soon, but a recently filed permit makes us all scratch our heads. Also likely to be on the chopping block is Lights, Motors, Action but that timetable isn't known either.
please dont close voyage of the little mermaid its a great show. agree? disagree?
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
... You're Ursula, aren't you?

No but it's been 20 years, that show should've changed at least three or four times. It's just a basic blackbox theater. That would've been the prime location to put shows pegged to movies that just came out recently.

Same with beauty and the beast. Both of those locations were designed to be easily switch now and not have the same show run for 20 or 25 years…

It's old, it's stale, time to move on.
 

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