MerlinTheGoat
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Universal has the awesome plumber (heh), Disney's situation is that there simply isn't anything in the pipe(line) to leak. 
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Mike S
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Universal has the awesome plumber (heh), Disney's situation is that there simply isn't anything in the pipe(line) to leak.
This got me thinking, while I would love it if DHS doubled the number or rides, built a Star Wars Land, Cars Land, Pixar Place, etc.. I have given up hope, I don't really think anything big is happening to this park in the next 5-10 years. So maybe Disney should just stop pretending like it's on the same level as the rest of their parks and drop the price to $50/day and we can all move on. Obviously they would never do that in less attendance plummeted but would be a nice compromise "OK we're never going to build new rides but since this park only has 50% of the rides as a normal park, we'll only charge you 50% of the cost" I could justify going for $50.
Bocabear
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Well...especially with the ridiculousness of them wanting to charge MORE money at busy times of the year....they should be charging LESS money to enter this park... Or finish Avatar, get it up and running and then shut DHS down completely...Work without the bother of disturbing guests and really overhaul the park for a year or two and reopen with flourish for the 50th Anniversary....a whole new park, redesigned and improved. 10 attractions, all new shows, a complete DCA plus makeover.
gmajew
Premium Member
I have said this now many times but each park should be getting some attention all the time. It does not need to be major additions and should not be every year but each park needs some love and attention at all times.
So MK has been getting its fair share lately and yes a few more rides would be terrific but not going to happen right now they are adding and fixing walk ways and buildings and hopefully putting in another restaurant.
Animal Kingodm - Has also been getting a lot of love lately and is on a good place and heading in the right direction. You may not agree with IP being added but it is getting love new walk ways a new nighttime show, new theater district all awesome!
Epcot - This park or really half the park needs some love! I can not complain about the World Showcase at all it is doing what it was meant to do allow people to explore the countries enjoy some of its food and entertainment and it is making money..... No the other half of the park is weak and has been for awhile! Yes we got a upgrade on TT but this area needs an update on all rides big time!! Even if they just do a Great Movie ride fix on energy that is going to be a huge plus for this area! Imagination only way to fix it is to take it down and rebuild an entire ride! This thing is in horrible condition. Nemo aint going anywhere anytime soon and Mission to Mars should never have been built but it also aint moving anytime soon. So really they can upgrade Energy and redo Imagination at this time.... Soarin new movie is coming soon we hope Not to mention put some damn cool future exhibits in the damn halls just don't make them air condition hallways.
HS - This park is a joke and needs all the love they can get. Tower is awesome and Rock in Roll is good. Toy Story, and Star Tours and even Muppets is good..... Rest is just just empty barrin park that I can get through in half a day. Shows need to be updated start here so when the construction begins people stay in the park! If this means more Pixar more princess what ever update them!! No show should run more then 5 years!! unless you are doing the broadway versions of these get rid of them. Then we wait and listen to crickets and we wait to see what will get announced. I truly believe it is coming but it is going to take awhile and it better be awesome because I have faith in Disney that they are going to blow my mind with Starwars and hopefully pixar place!
No I am not one to think disney is not doing anything right now because they are and doing a ton really but we all want so much more and two parks need it really really bad!! So please give them some credit for the work they are doing but at the same time we can dig them for not doing enough fast enough to make us ravid fans happy.... but I don't think they will ever do it fast enough to make us happy! Also don't compare them to universal who is building like crazy... they like disney at one point have to because they were horrible and needed to do all of this to even be relative in the talks and comparisons to disney! They are doing great but being done for a different set of reasons.
So MK has been getting its fair share lately and yes a few more rides would be terrific but not going to happen right now they are adding and fixing walk ways and buildings and hopefully putting in another restaurant.
Animal Kingodm - Has also been getting a lot of love lately and is on a good place and heading in the right direction. You may not agree with IP being added but it is getting love new walk ways a new nighttime show, new theater district all awesome!
Epcot - This park or really half the park needs some love! I can not complain about the World Showcase at all it is doing what it was meant to do allow people to explore the countries enjoy some of its food and entertainment and it is making money..... No the other half of the park is weak and has been for awhile! Yes we got a upgrade on TT but this area needs an update on all rides big time!! Even if they just do a Great Movie ride fix on energy that is going to be a huge plus for this area! Imagination only way to fix it is to take it down and rebuild an entire ride! This thing is in horrible condition. Nemo aint going anywhere anytime soon and Mission to Mars should never have been built but it also aint moving anytime soon. So really they can upgrade Energy and redo Imagination at this time.... Soarin new movie is coming soon we hope Not to mention put some damn cool future exhibits in the damn halls just don't make them air condition hallways.
HS - This park is a joke and needs all the love they can get. Tower is awesome and Rock in Roll is good. Toy Story, and Star Tours and even Muppets is good..... Rest is just just empty barrin park that I can get through in half a day. Shows need to be updated start here so when the construction begins people stay in the park! If this means more Pixar more princess what ever update them!! No show should run more then 5 years!! unless you are doing the broadway versions of these get rid of them. Then we wait and listen to crickets and we wait to see what will get announced. I truly believe it is coming but it is going to take awhile and it better be awesome because I have faith in Disney that they are going to blow my mind with Starwars and hopefully pixar place!
No I am not one to think disney is not doing anything right now because they are and doing a ton really but we all want so much more and two parks need it really really bad!! So please give them some credit for the work they are doing but at the same time we can dig them for not doing enough fast enough to make us ravid fans happy.... but I don't think they will ever do it fast enough to make us happy! Also don't compare them to universal who is building like crazy... they like disney at one point have to because they were horrible and needed to do all of this to even be relative in the talks and comparisons to disney! They are doing great but being done for a different set of reasons.
Bocabear
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I think they are doing it for the same reasons...Universal is just able to do it a lot faster. Disney has CHOSEN to do their expansion slow to save money... Animal Kingdom, DHS, EPCOT and Magic Kingdom all need the expansion...they are busier than ever...making more money than ever. They NEED to invest in their stateside parks...
Glad they are finally doing something...
Glad they are finally doing something...
Seanual757
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If you say Disney Springs, Avatar (project name removed), Fantasy land expansion, Disney's Art of Animation Resort (opened 2012), all of the road construction at Disney, Magic + (magic Bands) the soon to be announced new project at DHS, ect... Seems Disney has been rather busy if you ask me. The difference is Disney is much larger than Universal so when you have the hotel going up at Universal and expansion at the park that is it. Where Disney has so many projects going on at the same time so this is not a money thing.
Mike S
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A whole water park, a new hotel, and King Kong, a brand new E Ticket attraction, all on the heels of Diagon Alley (an E and a D), another hotel, everything they've done in CityWalk, and another E Ticket in Transformers. Not to mention the Nintendo announcement which can pretty much be expected to be in Orlando just based on how they've been doing things lately even though there's nothing official on where it's going yet. I'd say the comparison is fair and it is not in Disney's favor. Not even close. I wouldn't say the DHS announcements are "soon to be announced" either, and even if they are, don't expect anything substantial for 5 years at the least. TSPL might open, but really, who can be excited for that knowing what's going on up the road? I know I'm not.
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Seanual757
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I still believe the amount of construction at Disney is far more than Universal over the past years to current. The cost as well is more IMHO (I would need to dig up all of the total costs).
Disney Springs parking garages $90 million
Disney Springs $250+ million
Avatar land $500 million
Fantasy land expansion $500 million
Fast Pass+/Magic bands $1 Billion
Soarin Construction
Art of Animation resort (2013)
Ft Wilderness construction (DVC rooms)
Villas at Grand Floridian (2012)
DHS Current Construction (Toy Story Mania expansion, and new construction)
Disney’s purchase of last on the west side of Western Way and the 429
Disney Springs parking garages $90 million
Disney Springs $250+ million
Avatar land $500 million
Fantasy land expansion $500 million
Fast Pass+/Magic bands $1 Billion
Soarin Construction
Art of Animation resort (2013)
Ft Wilderness construction (DVC rooms)
Villas at Grand Floridian (2012)
DHS Current Construction (Toy Story Mania expansion, and new construction)
Disney’s purchase of last on the west side of Western Way and the 429
Bocabear
Well-Known Member
I am looking at total guest experience...and investment in attractions. I don't care how much Disney spends on toilet paper and that they bought more property they don't need.
Disney spent money on Disney Springs to bring in More Money...
Disney added parking garages to pack their shopping venue with more people...
Disney has just been late to the game with expansion overall, and for the volume of people that Disney serves, these expansions and additions are necessary...they should have started years ago... and they are still light on actual attractions that were needed a decade ago.... So yeah, they are doing some things to bring themselves up to speed... I am not excited about a new theater for Soarin', My Magic Plus, a Parking Garage, A larger mall area or a second track to a shooting arcade ride... I would love to see innovative beautifully themed new attractions...Avatar is a step, but they are not confirming anything else...
Disney spent money on Disney Springs to bring in More Money...
Disney added parking garages to pack their shopping venue with more people...
Disney has just been late to the game with expansion overall, and for the volume of people that Disney serves, these expansions and additions are necessary...they should have started years ago... and they are still light on actual attractions that were needed a decade ago.... So yeah, they are doing some things to bring themselves up to speed... I am not excited about a new theater for Soarin', My Magic Plus, a Parking Garage, A larger mall area or a second track to a shooting arcade ride... I would love to see innovative beautifully themed new attractions...Avatar is a step, but they are not confirming anything else...
RSoxNo1
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When you factor in the $2 billion on "infrastructure" that does very little to improve the guest experience, they've absolutely spent more than Universal... Universal is just spending their money more wisely.
Progress.City
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I feel like it's that scene from Saturday the 14th when every channel on TV was showing Twlight Zone.
Seanual757
Well-Known Member
I am not up to par on what is going on at Universal (we don’t go- We are Local in Orlando) except for the construction work for the new hotel is all that I am aware of (as well as the 4 others planned). While things do not move at the pace we all wish it would I know bids are out for the “un named expansion” over at DHS so if things go as they have at Disney by the end of the year ground should be broken and concrete starting to pour early 2016.
I will admit Disney is lacking one key element for the family’s and that is a park for those looking for thrill rides. IMHO if Disney does do a 5th Park they need to offer a “Disney’s Florida Adventure” 5+ roller coasters, a water ride, cars land, ect…and just stuff tailored to thrill seekers.
This to me is the one key element Disney is missing to keep guests on property all the time and not look at other attractions for thrills.
I am happy to see the upgrades that Disney is currently working on, none of us know what they have in the works that are not yet announced. I am pretty sure Disney is fully aware that they need to continue to upgrade and evolve to maintain the guest experience.
As a APH and DVC member I have seen crowed increase more and more each year Disney must be doing something right to have record crowds and have the resorts full the majority of the time.
I will admit Disney is lacking one key element for the family’s and that is a park for those looking for thrill rides. IMHO if Disney does do a 5th Park they need to offer a “Disney’s Florida Adventure” 5+ roller coasters, a water ride, cars land, ect…and just stuff tailored to thrill seekers.
This to me is the one key element Disney is missing to keep guests on property all the time and not look at other attractions for thrills.
I am happy to see the upgrades that Disney is currently working on, none of us know what they have in the works that are not yet announced. I am pretty sure Disney is fully aware that they need to continue to upgrade and evolve to maintain the guest experience.
As a APH and DVC member I have seen crowed increase more and more each year Disney must be doing something right to have record crowds and have the resorts full the majority of the time.
You're spot on. This is what is missing more than anything. They could accomplish the same with just adding 1-2 big thrill rides at each park as well.
Clover Bailey
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Um... this is about a Cars ride, right.....?
danlb_2000
Premium Member
This is an old rumor at a point where it looks like Disney was considering bring all, or at least a significant portion of Carsland to DHS. This was before the Lucasfilm acquisition was announced. There are still rumors that some form of Carsland might be coming to DHS, but it doesn't seem likely at this point that it will be an exact copy of the one in DCA.
Clover Bailey
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Seeing how recently Disney is trying to make WDW the 'true Disney location' by adding lots of franchise themed worlds like Toy Story, Star Wars, Dumbo (well it's called Storybook Circus but it has a lot of theming from Dumbo) and the new Frozen place in World Showcase, they will probably try to make a new type of Cars Land, maybe themed off the second movie with a spy movie style to it and some interactive adventure thing.
Speaking of lands based of movies, how come Universal is more popular by demolishing Jaws for Harry Potter projection junk and no one gives some respect for Avatar Land?