DHS CARS LAND

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I think that the reason that they are willing to spend that kind of money on DCA is because it was dying and gasping for air. WDW is still listed as the most popular vacation destination in the world, so they rationalize that it doesn't need that big a shot in the arm. Small things will keep everyone happy. Course, it would be nice if they even did some small things, but I digress. I don't know what they are planning on doing, or even if they know, but in the meantime, Uni is gearing up to take on the giant...and like in biblical times...they may just do it.:(
 

PeterAlt

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How about they build giant slime canons aimed at USO? Guests could choose to fire on HP or Transformers or the Simpsons or The Hulk or any of the attractions there.

It's a win-win deal because it adds a much needed attraction that could be a lot of fun while also destroying USO property at the same time. Guests will fear getting slimed by WDW guests if they go to USO and would choose to do fire the slime at WDW rather than be slimed!

Genius. Absolutely brilliant!
 

fosse76

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Why duplicate perfection rather than creating new perfection. da Vinci did not keep painting copies of the Mona Lisa. He made one and moved on to something new.
Oh please. Artists copied themselves all the time. Not in the way you're stating, but women who bear a strking resemblance to La Jaconda (or as you referred to it, the Mona Lisa) appear in numerous Leonardo paintings.
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
I know you may not believe me but even 74 says new stuff is on the way.
Yeah, but you are simply guessing. I can say my theater on Broadway is getting something new (though nothing has been announced), and due to the nature of the industry I would be right. But that doesn't mean I actually knew it was happening, but I was right only by the the law of probability.
 

cheezbat

Well-Known Member
Obviously SOMETHING will be happening at DHS. It needs it badly. As things are going, I honestly doubt we would see all of Radiator Springs cloned. Besides, the park needs balance...not just one big land addition. It needs a few things in the back, something off of Sunset, and something else near the front...
Now if I was TDO and cheap then I'd green light an Indy clone for the front of the park, a RSR or Ratatouille clone near the back, and a family omnimover for Sunset Blvd.

But of course I'd prefer to see original attractions...as long as they're good!
 

spacemt354

Chili's
I'm not a fan of cloning, and i would prefer something different in DHS, but... why do you say it would not fit? because is themed too well? :O

Actually, as crazy as it sounds, the bold is kind of a reason for me.

After long discussion and debate since last year, I've come to my own conclusion that I'd rather not see any sort of Carsland in DHS.

1) Because DCA and DL fans drool over it and cherish it like their child. And even though I don't mind clones, in this circumstance, I'd like to see something original, because there are so many better Pixar properties out there.

2) Value-engineering it for DHS won't add any value to the park. It will just look inferior to the west coast version

3) While I do think RSR is a nice attraction and an E-ticket, riding it last Christmas, it's a tad overrated to me. It's overpriced, and while clearly popular with 180+ min wait times, it's not worth it whatsoever in my view.

4) It will also bring a new dynamic to the park. A full blown Carsland placed in the back corner of DHS will now house 3 of the 9 "rides" in the park. That really shifts the balance of power. And would it still be called Carsland? or would it be part of Pixar Place? Neither one of those cases helps the park's image in my view. To me it's just too much Cars. DCA could handle it because it has other attractions to counterbalance Carsland. In DHS, Carsland would stick out like a sore thumb.

5) However, people may say there's no way you can turn down the addition of an attraction that will create those types of wait times. And that's true. But if you value engineer the attraction, alter it, or change the dynamic, there is no guarantee it will be as popular as the west coast version. There's not even a guarantee that if you simply duplicate it that it'll be as popular. Granted it probably will be as popular, just because of the lack of attractions in the park, however other unique attractions I feel would be just as, if not even more popular.

6) Disney has a collection of popular Pixar films and characters to choose from. A "Pixar Place" to me, means a collection of a variety of Pixar films, not Toy Story, maybe one other, then a giant Carsland. That isn't balanced to me. Use the land available for attractions revolving around Monster's inc, The Incredibles, A Bug's Life (to convert the HISTA play set) Brave, and much more. And if you're going to take anything from Carsland, all I ask for is Flo's Cafe. That place was awesome and would love that as a dining option in DHS. :)
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
But of course I'd prefer to see original attractions...as long as they're good!
Good luck with that. This isn't your Fathers Disney Co. Disney, at one time, did spectacular things every time they tried. Now they are only able to do a few and most of them they are sending to new Disney Parks around the world and ignoring Florida. Maybe they will change, I hope so, but I'm not real optimistic that it will happen real soon.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Oh please. Artists copied themselves all the time. Not in the way you're stating, but women who bear a strking resemblance to La Jaconda (or as you referred to it, the Mona Lisa) appear in numerous Leonardo paintings.

But that's not an issue. It's like Disney using the same ride system on multiple attractions, Or same rockwork technique in their landscaping. Even like a composer using components of his/her past pieces in their new compositions.

It's not necessarily copying as much as building on and around past works. I don't see anything wrong with that.
 

misterID

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Lasseter has said in the past he wanted RSR cloned and have a presence in the parks. Just like HM, Pirates, IASW, etc. Cloning is part of Disney history. It's no big deal except for the group of people it's a big deal to, imo.

Obviously SOMETHING will be happening at DHS. It needs it badly. As things are going, I honestly doubt we would see all of Radiator Springs cloned. Besides, the park needs balance...not just one big land addition. It needs a few things in the back, something off of Sunset, and something else near the front...
Now if I was TDO and cheap then I'd green light an Indy clone for the front of the park, a RSR or Ratatouille clone near the back, and a family omnimover for Sunset Blvd.

But of course I'd prefer to see original attractions...as long as they're good!

Yeah, if RSR comes to DHS that park is going to be an absolute mess in regards to crowd control. They need an Indy ride in the other corner of the park to even things out.
 

ctxak98

Well-Known Member
Actually, as crazy as it sounds, the bold is kind of a reason for me.

After long discussion and debate since last year, I've come to my own conclusion that I'd rather not see any sort of Carsland in DHS.

1) Because DCA and DL fans drool over it and cherish it like their child. And even though I don't mind clones, in this circumstance, I'd like to see something original, because there are so many better Pixar properties out there.

2) Value-engineering it for DHS won't add any value to the park. It will just look inferior to the west coast version

3) While I do think RSR is a nice attraction and an E-ticket, riding it last Christmas, it's a tad overrated to me. It's overpriced, and while clearly popular with 180+ min wait times, it's not worth it whatsoever in my view.

4) It will also bring a new dynamic to the park. A full blown Carsland placed in the back corner of DHS will now house 3 of the 9 "rides" in the park. That really shifts the balance of power. And would it still be called Carsland? or would it be part of Pixar Place? Neither one of those cases helps the park's image in my view. To me it's just too much Cars. DCA could handle it because it has other attractions to counterbalance Carsland. In DHS, Carsland would stick out like a sore thumb.

5) However, people may say there's no way you can turn down the addition of an attraction that will create those types of wait times. And that's true. But if you value engineer the attraction, alter it, or change the dynamic, there is no guarantee it will be as popular as the west coast version. There's not even a guarantee that if you simply duplicate it that it'll be as popular. Granted it probably will be as popular, just because of the lack of attractions in the park, however other unique attractions I feel would be just as, if not even more popular.

6) Disney has a collection of popular Pixar films and characters to choose from. A "Pixar Place" to me, means a collection of a variety of Pixar films, not Toy Story, maybe one other, then a giant Carsland. That isn't balanced to me. Use the land available for attractions revolving around Monster's inc, The Incredibles, A Bug's Life (to convert the HISTA play set) Brave, and much more. And if you're going to take anything from Carsland, all I ask for is Flo's Cafe. That place was awesome and would love that as a dining option in DHS. :)
I can agree with you on many points here. I have several friends who said RSR was great but WAYYY overrated especially when it comes to waiting 180 +minutes for it!

Secondly I agree that Pixar Place having Carsland would feel NOT like a part of Pixar Place. Its way to big to be considered part of that land! If we were to make it part of Pixar Place that means that we need two more mini lands of some Pixar franchise in the back as well! ....but that would take up all of the backlot and streets of America I would assume. I would still prefer a taste from all of them with a DHS feel to the outside! I don't need Cadillac Range in DHS.
 

cheezbat

Well-Known Member
Good luck with that. This isn't your Fathers Disney Co. Disney, at one time, did spectacular things every time they tried. Now they are only able to do a few and most of them they are sending to new Disney Parks around the world and ignoring Florida. Maybe they will change, I hope so, but I'm not real optimistic that it will happen real soon.

Sadly it's not my Disney company either. The one I grew up with was all about innovation, expansion, and magic.
It's changed quite a bit.
 

SirLink

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Active Member
Oh please. Artists copied themselves all the time. Not in the way you're stating, but women who bear a strking resemblance to La Jaconda (or as you referred to it, the Mona Lisa) appear in numerous Leonardo paintings.

La Gioconda (or la Joconde in french)


No, It just doesn't fit with the rest of the architecture and feel of DHS that's all. Which is why I would raher just not have it!
That's the point of having different *lands*. You just basically said that a Star Wars Land would not fit at DHS...
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Oh please. Artists copied themselves all the time. Not in the way you're stating, but women who bear a strking resemblance to La Jaconda (or as you referred to it, the Mona Lisa) appear in numerous Leonardo paintings.

I meant it in the way I meant it. Please do not deflect. :cool:
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Yeah, but you are simply guessing. I can say my theater on Broadway is getting something new (though nothing has been announced), and due to the nature of the industry I would be right. But that doesn't mean I actually knew it was happening, but I was right only by the the law of probability.

You must be a dancer on broadway because you dance around every issue. It is not the 'laws of probability'. What it is are tried and true business cycle that has been well established at WDW.
 

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