DHS CARS LAND

[wm49rs]

Even if WDWs version was an improvement the 2 will still be compared and 1 will be deemed the lesser. Why even go that route? Give people something different, both amazing, to feel like they just can't miss on both coasts.

How would one be deemed the lesser? That can be applied to certain rides shared by the two parks, I suppose, but I'm not really sure there's an overall plus or minus system for shared rides at WDW and DL. Or the other parks throughout the world for that matter (or attractions, restaurants, etc.).

 

[aladdin2007]

How would one be deemed the lesser? That can be applied to certain rides shared by the two parks, I suppose, but I'm not really sure there's an overall plus or minus system for shared rides at WDW and DL. Or the other parks throughout the world for that matter (or attractions, restaurants, etc.).

Well as one example their Pooh and tower of terror is deemed inferior to ours by many, while their Pan is superior to ours. etc.

 

[dcibrando]

why is it so many people are worried or have a problem with something being in both Disneyland and in Walt Disney World. The majority of vacationers don't have the option to go to either one anyways. I know they operate seperately, have different budgets, etc. but last I checked they are all under the same main umbrella.

If family A goes to Disneyland and family B goes to Disney World.....why is it each park needs to compete against each other for the other family???

Disneyland and Walt Disney World is and always will be different regardless of how many of the same rides/attractions they have. Maybe it's just me... but I can never figure out why if something is successful over 2,500 miles away why it can't be in both places. It's like saying we shouldn't build a Walmart because another store may lose people going to it and instead go to the other one (which is the same just closer).

You have to also take into consideration, if family A goes to Disneyland and family B goes to Disney World...and there are a lot of successful attractions in both (some of which are the same) there's a good chance you'll also pick up a family C and D

 

[wdwmagic]

Even if WDWs version was an improvement the 2 will still be compared and 1 will be deemed the lesser. Why even go that route? Give people something different, both amazing, to feel like they just can't miss on both coasts.

For the vast majority of WDW's guests (particularly the internatonals), visiting both coasts isn't on the cards. It is Orlando or nothing. WIth that in mind it makes sense to bring the best of the US parks to WDW.

 

[PeterMarcus]

Carsland at Christmas time would be interesting. Maybe an overflow area connected somehow with Osborne?

 

[wm49rs]

Well as one example their Pooh and tower of terror is deemed inferior to ours by many, while their Pan is superior to ours. etc.

You're right, and SM can be another comparison. But I don't see an inherent need to judge one as being lesser than the other. And if bringing in CL to help elevate DHS (and by extension, WDW), then by all means let's break ground asap.....

 

[devoy1701]

You need to consider the International draw. Domestically DLR might be able to pull from all over the USA, but I can assure you that is not the case from the UK and South America - that very large group is still a WDW stronghold.

So should we get our own DisneySea for the simple reason that most people in the US will never visit Japan? Duplicating attractions and lands ensures that visiting the other resorts would most likely never happen. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here, I am not opposed to Cars coming to WDW (though I thought Pixar Place was supposed to be the land in the back of the park...guess their abandoning that idea), all I'm saying is that right now Carsland, World of Color, and those types of offerings are specific reasons of why I (or anyone) would visit Disneyland, cloning them here takes away that reason. Being a diehard fan, I visit Disneyland anyway...but your average park guests definitely won't. There so much they can do, other Pixar properties to tap, or theming that can be used without having to build a direct clone. Instead of Carsland, give us Monstropolis or the World of Wall-E or something.

 

[habuma]

So will it likely be like: Radiator Springs Racers, and the curios shop at the end of the exit dock? And this would be somehow connected to Pixar Place hopefully?! It doesn't make sense to have it in the other side of the park when there's a Pixar land dying for a second attraction.

Assuming all of this is true (and I've not even read through but half of this thread, so maybe I'm missing something critical in the remaining 8 pages), but here are my thoughts on the subject after 7 pages:

• I really don't want a clone of Cars Land in DHS, but as others have said, it's better than nothing.
• If they are going to clone it, I'd be okay with only cloning RSR and not the whole land so long as:
  • The exterior scenes are just as breathtaking as the DCA version.
  • The exterior scenes are modified slightly to incorporate part of the town...but not overdone to the point of cheapening it.
  • This represents phase 1 of a much more grand plan to expand Pixar Place into the area currently occupied by the backlot tour.

And, for what it's worth, I'm a big proponent of keeping/refreshing the "Hollywood that never was and always will be" theme for DHS, and I think that can be accomplished without DHS actually being a working studio or having any sort of studio tour (real or fake). A properly planned Pixar Place (alliteration FTW!) fits that theme. Any attempt of creating a new land in the form of Cars Land or just dropping an attraction in DHS just because it's popular and doesn't fit in the other parks, doesn't fit that theme.

 

[wdwmagic]

So should we get our own DisneySea for the simple reason that most people in the US will never visit Japan? Duplicating attractions and lands ensures that visiting the other resorts would most likely never happen. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here, I am not opposed to Cars coming to WDW (though I thought Pixar Place was supposed to be the land in the back of the park...guess their abandoning that idea), all I'm saying is that right now Carsland, World of Color, and those types of offerings are specific reasons of why I (or anyone) would visit Disneyland, cloning them here takes away that reason. Being a diehard fan, I visit Disneyland anyway...but your average park guests definitely won't. There so much they can do, other Pixar properties to tap, or theming that can be used without having to build a direct clone. Instead of Carsland, give us Monstrolpolis or the World of Wall-E or something.

The answer to that is yes - DisneySea would be a fantastic addition to Orlando, and I think would be the choice for the 5th park.

People like us, who aim to go to all the parks worldwide are in the minority. This is not Disney's primary market or aim.

 

[ChrisM]

I'm by no means a DHS expert, so it's possible I've accidentally overlayed some critical infrastructure or buildings that simply can't (or wouldn't) be moved, but here are two possible overlay examples. I believe I have the bulk of DCA's Carsland included in my cutout here (and the scales are set correctly).

In the first overlay, this is a "simple" drop onto the LMA area, assuming an entrance at the end of Pixar Place and the "Route 66" plowing dead center into from the Streets of New York. As you can see, a large swath of the Backlot tour is untouched.

In the second overlay, I've flipped the orientation of Carsland and shaded out a possible entrance (through the Animation Courtyard, I believe) and carved out the bulk of the Backlot Tour as a "Route 66" lane.

Will they do any or all of this? Who knows. But it appears there is definitely plenty of room for a full implementation if they decide to go this route.

Personally, I'm all for the full implementation. DHS desperately needs attractions and, quite honestly, I simply don't see a clone drawing much attendance from the original in Disneyland. While there are definitely folks specifically booking Disneyland trips to experience it, those bleeding-edgers will have satisfied themselves with trips to DL by the time the clone is open, and it's simply not a big enough draw to pull a significant number of people who otherwise wouldn't go to Disneyland. Anyone trying to argue otherwise is fooling themselves. On the other hand, there are a large segment of people who will either book trips to WDW, or spend more time and money at DHS, if this is built there.

As for DHS being a thematic mess, I think it's fairly obvious that DHS will, over time, turn into something much or akin to a "Disney's Hollywood Adventure". It's never going to be a clone of DCA, but with a bit of work it can easily be modified to closely mimic it. I'm certain that's the direction you will see the park take as it evolves over the next 10-15 years.

 

[aladdin2007]

So should we get our own DisneySea for the simple reason that most people in the US will never visit Japan? Duplicating attractions and lands ensures that visiting the other resorts would most likely never happen. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here, I am not opposed to Cars coming to WDW (though I thought Pixar Place was supposed to be the land in the back of the park...guess their abandoning that idea), all I'm saying is that right now Carsland, World of Color, and those types of offerings are specific reasons of why I (or anyone) would visit Disneyland, cloning them here takes away that reason. Being a diehard fan, I visit Disneyland anyway...but your average park guests definitely won't. There so much they can do, other Pixar properties to tap, or theming that can be used without having to build a direct clone. Instead of Carsland, give us Monstrolpolis or the World of Wall-E or something.

That brings up a point. At this stage it feels like everything is Nemo, Mermaid, Cars,--- Nemo, Mermaid, Cars,,,,theres other things to draw from it just feels like its getting redundant across property/properties. Im all for those attractions etc but between all of those and the animation resort etc, it just seems like a lot of theme repeating going on.

 

[aladdin2007]

That brings up a point. At this stage it feels like everything is Nemo, Mermaid, Cars,--- Nemo, Mermaid, Cars,,,,theres other things to draw from it just feels like its getting redundant across property/properties. Im all for those attractions etc but between all of those and the animation resort etc, it just seems like a lot of theme repeating going on.

 

[aladdin2007]

whoops sorry Im clicking wrong buttons here.

 

[wdwmagic]

That brings up a point. At this stage it feels like everything is Nemo, Mermaid, Cars,--- Nemo, Mermaid, Cars,,,,theres other things to draw from it just feels like its getting redundant across property/properties. Im all for those attractions etc but between all of those and the animation resort etc, it just seems like a lot of theme repeating going on.

Well they have been amongst the most popular movies of the last 10 years.

 

[orky8]

Carsland could easily fit into DHS's theme of taking you into the movies just like the Streets of America, the land delivers you into a sort of masterful set. The problem is DHS needs the full DCA-treatment as the park is currently hopelessly disjointed. Carsland, while an amazing piece, was only a part of the DCA rehab. The entire DHS needs some reworking.

Also, it needs a water/boat ride. Something, anything. Ala splash mountain, pirates of the caribbean, or small world. What they really should do is use the technology being applied to Shanghai's Pirates of the Caribbean and make a "Great Animation Ride" with a boat ride through Disney's animated movies, starting with Snow White. A true animatronic masterpiece such a ride could be.

 

[jt04]

When it happens be prepared to quit. Why do you always have to make a thread about you this is wdwmagic, not arrogantjtandhisinflatedego.com

Somebody else brought me up in this thread, I just responded.

Anyway, I always use the "I will quit this site" threat when I am sure about something. We will never get a clone of Carsland at DCA. The only way it happens is if they built a 5th gate entirely Pixar based and CarsLand was one of the lands. Otherwise it is not happening. RSR maybe, but not with the mountain range you see at DCA (on that scale). Take it to the bank.

 

[JCtheparrothead]

I am with you 49rs. Bust out the shovels and get moving. 2015 could be awesome with CL and Pandora.

 

[wm49rs]

Somebody else brought me up in this thread, I just responded.

Anyway, I always use the "I will quit this site" threat when I am sure about something. We will never get a clone of Carsland at DCA. The only way it happens is if they built a 5th gate entirely Pixar based and CarsLand was one of the lands. Otherwise it is not happening. RSR maybe, but not with the mountain range you see at DCA (on that scale). Take it to the bank.

Well, you were sure about Florida HSR "definitely" coming, and yet a year later you're still around. So that's another promise broken.....

 

[pmaljr]

Cars Land: I hope this is a true rumor. Being on the east coast, Disneyland was a once in a lifetime-like trip for us and it would be great for us to be able to visit Cars Land in Florida.

 

[muteki]

I'll take a duplicated Cars Land over waiting around for something else (either better or original) to come around. If we didn't take cars land, I imagine I would be waiting quite a while.