Describe California Adventure in a nutshell

[sponono88]

It almost seems insulting toward Disney in a way that you aren't willing to judge it on the actual end product. You stated earlier that "everything points to the fact that the billion dollars will be well spent"... but it isn't really a fact yet is it? It can't be a fact until it's actually happened. I'm curious, are you worried on some level that it won't actually live up to what it's being presented to be?

What? Who's worried? I'm just saying that everything has been released so far points to the fact that there are great things coming. Are you even familiar with the Blue Sky Cellar? I even talked to imagineers at the expo who were willing to discuss all the additions that Cars Land will feature. Even the harshest DCA critics *ahem* Lutz, are praising the expansion.

 

[Ziffell]

I'm curious, when was the last time you visited DCA?

A little under a year ago. Why? Is there something spectacular that I'm missing out on that would radically change my opinion of DCA if I'd visited more recently?

 

[sponono88]

I'll be honest, I think discussions on DCA and how much it sucks or doesn't suck, are quite boring. Those are so 2004. :lol: I'd much rather discuss the upcoming additions and expansion. So.. that's my last post regarding this topic.

 

[Ziffell]

What? Who's worried? I'm just saying that everything has been released so far points to the fact that there are great things coming. Are you even familiar with the Blue Sky Cellar? I even talked to imagineers at the expo who were willing to discuss all the additions that Cars Land will feature. Even the harshest DCA critics *ahem* Lutz, are praising the expansion.

I think you might want to look up the word "fact" in the dictionary. To paraphrase a great line from the movie Princess Bride, "I don't think you're using that word correctly. It does not mean what you think it means." :lol:

 

[Ziffell]

I'll be honest, I think discussions on DCA and how much it sucks or doesn't suck, are quite boring. Those are so 2004. :lol: I'd much rather discuss the upcoming additions and expansion. So.. that's my last post regarding this topic.

I guess that's a face-saving way of saying you don't really have an answer to my question huh? :lol:

 

[sponono88]

I guess that's a face-saving way of saying you don't really have an answer to my question huh? :lol:

No, not really. I just don't see the point in going back and forth over this. I think in the end, you still won't enjoy DCA... and I will.

I don't know how to answer your question because I don't particularly care if you like the park or not. :shrug:

 

[Ziffell]

I think in the end, you still won't enjoy DCA... and I will.

Who says I won't? You seem determined to convince yourself that you "know" the future and are apparently rather uncomfortable in dealing with the unknown. I simply said that I prefer to rate DCA on what it currently is, not on what it WILL be, especially if I have no way of knowing with absolute certainty until that time comes. That doesn't mean I won't like it. I certainly hope that I will, and I'm optimistic that I may. I'm actually very excited about the upcoming changes, especially Carsland. But again, that's all in the future. It's not a "fact" until it actually happens.

I don't know how to answer your question because I don't particularly care if you like the park or not. :shrug:

Actually, I think you were hoping that I'd say it had been years since I'd been there so that you could "prove" me wrong. When that didn't work out, you suddenly became "bored" with a conversation that you had, moments earlier, been fully engaged in.

 

[sponono88]

Who says I won't? You seem determined to convince yourself that you "know" the future and are apparently rather uncomfortable in dealing with the unknown. I simply said that I prefer to rate DCA on what it currently is, not on what it WILL be, especially if I have no way of knowing with absolute certainty until that time comes. That doesn't mean I won't like it. I certainly hope that I will, and I'm optimistic that I may. I'm actually very excited about the upcoming changes, especially Carsland. But again, that's all in the future. It's not a "fact" until it actually happens.

My goodness, how did you come to the conclusion that i'm uncomfortable in dealing with the unknown...? :lol: That's pretty deep.

Actually, I think you were hoping that I'd say it had been years since I'd been there so that you could "prove" me wrong. When that didn't work out, you suddenly became "bored" with a conversation that you had, moments earlier, been fully engaged in.

Wow, very childish. Honestly, I was actually curious about whether you had actually visited the park or not. We have posters here who seem to know everything about DCA when they've never even been there. Don't pretend to know what my intentions were.

I became bored after I realized how pointless this whole discussion is.

 

[Ziffell]

We have posters here who seem to know everything about DCA when they've never even been there.

And we appear to have at least one poster who is just as "knowledgeable" about events that haven't even happened yet. :lol:

 

[sponono88]

 

[Ziffell]

Translation = "I don't have a response, so I'll attempt to shift the focus by accusing him of being a 'troll'". :lol:

 

[dweezil78]

I haven't read the entire thread, but as a local, I really love Universal. I think you'll easily get in a pretty full day there if you've never been. The downside is that most of the rides can also be found in either USF or IOA -- BUT, I personally think the studio tour is worth the price of admission if you've never done it before. It just offers so much more than you'd ever hope to find in any of the Orlando studio parks AND it's all legit! Sounds like King Kong will probably be open by the time you're here too which should be a great new addition.

I also think, from a California tourism perspective, USH offers some of the best views in the area -- assuming you hit it on a clear day. The first time I was there I remember thinking there was no way the view of the valley was real from the top of the hill, before you descend to the downstairs area.

Ten years later after moving out here I still love going to the park to soak in the scenery and enjoy a popcorn on the tram tour!

 

[TP2000]

Hey gang, I found some more pictures of Bigfoot Rapids. It took me a while on Topeka by trying different searches than just the attraction title, but I found 'em. Enjoy!

Bigfoot Rapids, Knott's Berry Farm

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Hey gang, I found some more pictures of Bigfoot Rapids. It took me a while on Topeka by trying different searches than just the attraction title, but I found 'em. Enjoy!

Would it kill them to at least put some decent landscaping along the flume? :veryconfu I have to say its pretty tacky looking. :brick:

 

[TP2000]

Would it kill them to at least put some decent landscaping along the flume? :veryconfu I have to say its pretty tacky looking. :brick:

There are parts of the attraction landscaped back in 1988 that have grown up and filled in with random oak trees not particularly themed to the bigfoot territory of Pacific Northwest pine forests, as you can see around the queue entry in the first pic. But sections of the flume near newer construction and remodeling need some help and a few gallons of MiracleGro. Also, don't forget that these pictures haven't been Photoshopped or their color saturation edited, so that's part of it.

But those last two pictures are from one of the few Knott's Berry Farm fan websites out there; bear-ytales.net . These are pictures from fans paying tribute to the park on their full time Knott's fan website.

Knott's Berry Farm circa 2010 is a very unique mix of a 60 year old family owned theme park created by a labor of love and a newer thrill-ride amusement park like Six Flags or Kings Dominion. It's very hard to describe unless you've been there and wandered the grounds yourself. It really has no easy comparison amongst other major American theme parks. Knott's still has charms, but a visit to their park bathrooms or a hard look at their older facilities and you realize they don't have the investment capital that Disney has.

And one more from Grizzly River Run, just for fun, with a raft dodging the geysers through the steaming geyser field.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Also, don't forget that these pictures haven't been Photoshopped and their color saturation edited, so that's part of it.

:lol:

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Knott's Berry Farm circa 2010 is a very unique mix of a 60 year old family owned theme park created by a labor of love and a newer thrill-ride amusement park like Six Flags or Kings Dominion. It's very hard to describe unless you've been there and wandered the grounds yourself.

I've never been inside the park (stood outside the entrance on a bus from Hollywood to Anaheim), but that kind of juxtaposition would seem to fit what I've read about the fascinating history of KBF combined with what I observed in the entrance plaza, which struck me as very Six Flags-esque.

 

[TP2000]

I've never been inside the park (stood outside the entrance on a bus from Hollywood to Anaheim), but that kind of juxtaposition would seem to fit what I've read about the fascinating history of KBF combined with what I observed in the entrance plaza, which struck me as very Six Flags-esque.

Yes, it's more Six Flags than it was a decade ago, but it still has a few 1960's holdouts like the log ride and Calico Mine Ride. For theme park fans it's worth a trip, just to check it off your list and enjoy the positives. It's much cheaper than a Disneyland day, so the local clientele that visits tends to be a mix of working class families and rather gritty youths.

Tickets for Knott's are just $45 for adults, compared to $73 for adults charged at Disneyland just 15 minutes down the freeway. Knott's is open daily year round, except Christmas and New Years, and it pulls in about 3.5 Million visitors per year. An adult annual pass for Knott's Berry Farm is $60 for a full year with no blockout dates, or $84 for both Knott's Berry Farm and their seasonal water park across the street, Knott's Soak City.

 

[Rufus T Firefly]

Yes, it's more Six Flags than it was a decade ago, but it still has a few 1960's holdouts like the log ride and Calico Mine Ride. For theme park fans it's worth a trip, just to check it off your list and enjoy the positives. It's much cheaper than a Disneyland day, so the local clientele that visits tends to be a mix of working class families and rather gritty youths.
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Knott's is truly a one of a kind theme park and a lot of fun (especially at Halloween time). The complaint that I hear recently from it's critics is that there is too much of the gang banger element there (much like Six Flags) that make many people uneasy.

 

[dweezil78]

I've only been to Knott's once, but I actually really enjoyed it and for a lack of better word found it "charming" -- whereas Magic Mountain is just a huge property full of twisted steel that sometimes more closely resembles a hi-tech junkyard/playground hybrid. At Knott's, like Disneyland, you felt a bit of history surrounding you which was cool. I also thought the park was very well maintained and had some really unique food and shops compared to the competition. Definitely worth a trip if you've never been!