News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections

[LittleBuford]

Typical politician schlock - Threaten to make something painful in an attempt to drum up support from the masses and/or to get the other side to cave.

None of this feels very typical. Quite the contrary.

 

[mkt]

Typical politician schlock - Threaten to make something painful in an attempt to drum up support from the masses and/or to get the other side to cave.

Typical would mean a lot of screaming but nothing actually getting done.

Two laws have been passed already and a new board of mostly incapable political appointees has been appointed. That's not "schlock".

 

[LAKid53]

Maybe it's just me, but I feel Disney is getting stale...or too big for its britches. Some headaches for them might not actually be a bad thing, if it leads to improvements overall. So far, I don't see anything catastrophic that has actually happened. So until something horrible happens a result of this, I'm not going to go into panic or petty mode. Just let it run its course. A sit-down meeting between Iger and DeSantis will probably solve everything for both sides. It's the best optics for both sides.

There's a difference between a government trying to rein in a company or industry which practices cause harm (think banks' lending policies which led to the 2008 financial crisis) and a government trying to impede the operations of a company, one that's a MAJOR contributor to that government's economy, for purely political reasons, mainly to further the political aspirations of the CEO of that government.

 

[pdude81]

Maybe it's just me, but I feel Disney is getting stale...or too big for its britches. Some headaches for them might not actually be a bad thing, if it leads to improvements overall. So far, I don't see anything catastrophic that has actually happened. So until something horrible happens a result of this, I'm not going to go into panic or petty mode. Just let it run its course. A sit-down meeting between Iger and DeSantis will probably solve everything for both sides. It's the best optics for both sides.

There was a chance for that months ago, but when it got leaked that a few tweaks would be made to RCID but nothing major, the governor ratcheted up the rhetoric and now it's a high stakes game of chicken. Disney would have been happy to work this out in the shadows, but I think that time has passed.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Got to think its going to get to that point but do you think Iger’s own political aspirations hinder that?

Yeah it definitely seems like a p’ing match

 

[Andrew C]

and now it's a high stakes game of chicken.

 

[Ayla]

Typical would mean a lot of screaming but nothing actually getting done.

Two laws have been passed already and a new board of mostly incapable political appointees has been appointed. That's not "schlock".

Has the new board been approved by the legislature, yet?

 

[scottieRoss]

There is plenty of knowledge on monorail systems. There are several monorail systems in place currently running that are subjected to regular state inspections. One of the largest is in Jacksonville. It is run by the Jacksonville transit authority. The monorail at wdw has been due for a track replacement since 2008. Instead of replacing the track they chose to put it off and run it at reduced speeds. The track replacement at Disneyland was forced to be done by the state because it was in such disrepair and that track was newer than the one at wdw

I think you have some misstatements here. The Disneyland track was not replaced, much less under orders from CalOsha. The Disneyland beamway is older than the WDW beamway. And always has.
Where do you find that the WDW monorail has been due to a track replacement since 2008.

 

[danlb_2000]

Wonder why they didn't also try to extend this to the Skyliner.

 

[RobbinsDad]

Exactly.

When the monorails have been down, Disney has had both Disney busses and hired tour busses running loops between the TTC and MK.

How much advance notice do you think the state would give Disney before shutting down the monorails?

 

[fgmnt]

Just be straight with what you're trying to tell me...may make things a bit easier...

I dance around specificity at the risk of getting zapped. The former president of the United States claims he is under siege from political hit jobs after his indictment in New York. Those people are also just doing their jobs.

 

[fgmnt]

Everything the new board is going to do will be considered as retaliation by the majority here...because it is pretty much always going to be connected back to the original decision from the gov and legislature to end the RCID...I 100% get that. How can you separate the two, at least at this point?

Perception is reality. Let's not pretend the governor and the politically aligned legislature aren't aware of how their actions look when approached comprehensively.

 

[mkt]

How much advance notice do you think the state would give Disney before shutting down the monorails?

Judging by the example of Fuller v Carollo, where regulatory power was used to punish perceived political enemies, none.

 

[mkt]

Has the new board been approved by the legislature, yet?

Not yet. But they're on the agenda.

 

[Andrew C]

I dance around specificity at the risk of getting zapped. The former president of the United States claims he is under siege from political hit jobs after his indictment in New York. Those people are also just doing their jobs.

The DA?...well, the DA is literally a politician...ran a campaign to be elected into his position. Not comparable to a state inspector doing a job...

 

[mkt]

The DA?...well, the DA is literally a politician...ran a campaign to be elected into his position. Not comparable to a state inspector doing a job...

Well, with a requirement that they also be a licensed attorney.

Most politicians don't have such specific requirements.

 

[fgmnt]

The DA?...well, the DA is literally a politician...ran a campaign to be elected into his position. Not comparable to a state inspector doing a job...

The investigators and prosecutors working below the DA are not hired to do politics, much like how employees for FDOT are not hired to do politics.

 

[CntrlFlPete]

Wonder why they didn't also try to extend this to the Skyliner.

why wouldn't the Skyliner fall under "fixed-guideway transportation systems “located within an independent special district created by local act which have boundaries within two contiguous counties.”???

 

[Lilofan]

Well, with a requirement that they also be a licensed attorney.

Most politicians don't have such specific requirements.

Are you sure?, a number of elected are lawyers in their former life.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Everything the new board is going to do will be considered as retaliation by the majority here...because it is pretty much always going to be connected back to the original decision from the gov and legislature to end the RCID...I 100% get that. How can you separate the two, at least at this point?

It's not "seen" as retaliation, it absolutely is retaliation. This is explicit. Trying to separate this action from its entirely political motivations is worse then futile, its misleading. It only helps those who desperately want to pretend, for political reasons, that the governor and legislature aren't doing exactly what they say they are doing and exactly what they have been acting to do.