News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections

[celluloid]

It's not misrepresenting.

It points out that inspections like this are only as good as what the process does. Notice what's lacking in the new law? Any actual standards or targets. It basically just gave the government jurisdiction without any purpose, objective, or standards.

Since the standards can't feasibly make Disney worse, it is not really an area of concern. It can't force them to operate it.

The Freefall incident was operating below the standards of government inspections after inspectors were off site. The company is known for being seedy and lowered the standard, unfortunately, costing life. If not for state inspectors, we would be just presuming that a child died because they were too large to fit in the attraction and you got to just be smaller.

If you think Walt Disney World is comparable to the Slingshot Group, then you would have a point.

It can be annoying and for the wrong reasons. But it does not mean the safety standards must get worse.

 

[Rhinocerous]

“Good morning. We’re here to make sure everything with the monorail is working correctly.

So…. How does it work?”

 

[celluloid]

“Good morning. We’re here to make sure everything with the monorail is working correctly.

So…. How does it work?”

It is funny, but that is how all state inspections go. You have mechanical and transportation system experts.

The Monorail is an awesome piece of equipment, but it is not some imitation game code that is hard to crack and takes decades of training for how it should generally safely operate.

They teach seasonal college kids to work on it all the time.

Mechanics for the monorails have been miracle workers due to lack of resources over the last couple decades, and smart guys, but it can be trained with someone who is already an expert in systems of the nature.

It is not exactly a JR line.

 

[Splash4eva]

Now can they inspect Space Mountain and force them to redo the track next?

 

[flynnibus]

Since the standards can't feasibly make Disney worse, it is not really an area of concern.

I don't know where you drew this conclusion from... but it certainly doesn't sound like from experience with bureaucracy

The Freefall incident was operating below the standards of government inspections after inspectors were off site.

And the processes couldn't catch that a change with unintended consequences was made. The ride inspections would not have found the issue that caused the accident - because the inspections didn't include that kind of scrutiny. Only the post-accident investigation did because they obviously were going through with a much finer comb.

The ride inspection standards are not strong. They are basically "are you doing what the ride designer says you are supposed to be doing?"

It can be annoying and for the wrong reasons. But it does not mean the safety standards must get worse.

I think you are going places no one else is.

 

[tissandtully]

I don't know where you drew this conclusion from... but it certainly doesn't sound like from experience with bureaucracy



And the processes couldn't catch that a change with unintended consequences was made. The ride inspections would not have found the issue that caused the accident - because the inspections didn't include that kind of scrutiny. Only the post-accident investigation did because they obviously were going through with a much finer comb.

The ride inspection standards are not strong. They are basically "are you doing what the ride designer says you are supposed to be doing?"


I think you are going places no one else is.

Look, I think government inspections can be good and am very thankful we have them, especially after certain incidents with air travel, but man, they gotta happen for good reasons and especially by people that actually want to fix things, not some retaliatory effort that's all for show.

 

[celluloid]

Look, I think government inspections can be good and am very thankful we have them, especially after certain incidents with air travel, but man, they gotta happen for good reasons and especially by people that actually want to fix things, not some retaliatory effort that's all for show.

That is fair to not like the catalyst. Do you think that the entire group of people who will inspect this from here until it is no longer a thing or forever a thing, will not have any good intentions? In your mind it will completely, forever and completely always be for show only?

 

[celluloid]

I don't know where you drew this conclusion from... but it certainly doesn't sound like from experience with bureaucracy



And the processes couldn't catch that a change with unintended consequences was made. The ride inspections would not have found the issue that caused the accident - because the inspections didn't include that kind of scrutiny. Only the post-accident investigation did because they obviously were going through with a much finer comb.

The ride inspection standards are not strong. They are basically "are you doing what the ride designer says you are supposed to be doing?"


I think you are going places no one else is.

It is odd that your big complaint is somehow more government. If inspections happen to approve and periodically. Inspectors for most things only really show up when something is wrong and found what or who is culpable of harm, damage or damages.

What you describe is more micromanaging government that needs to inspect every bolt and procedure daily. People always could do bad things and break standards.

When the piece of the monorail fell off the beam, or the doors do not open, do you think that warrants such an investigation? Maybe you don't. But it is not like it is outrageous.

 

[ChrisFL]

I'm thinking the government decision is due to the wrong reasons, but that doesn't mean the inspectors are out to do something to Disney on their own

 

[ToTBellHop]

Small government at it again

Imagine how much money Florida taxpayers will save having government employees do this rather than Disney, though. If there’s one thing the GOP stands for, it’s letting businesses do their thing without government interference so taxes can fall.

 

[tissandtully]

That is fair to not like the catalyst. Do you think that the entire group of people who will inspect this from here until it is no longer a thing or forever a thing, will not have any good intentions? In your mind it will completely, forever and completely always be for show only?

It's yet to be seen, but I don't think this will fix any processes that are already broken, just my hunch.

 

[flynnibus]

It is odd that your big complaint is somehow more government.

It's more odd that you think that is my complaint... because it's not.

If inspections happen to approve and periodically. Inspectors for most things only really show up when something is wrong and found what or who is culpable of harm, damage or damages.

I'm simply saying adding a new overlord does not do anything to change anything unless said overlord adds new value or process that was missing before.

They've not demonstrated how they plan to do that, so no I'm not going to praise how they're going to improve things, nor assume they can't harm it.

 

[JohnD]

Continue to be angry at those who passed the bill. Nevertheless, FDOT now has a new law on the books that it is tasked with fulfilling. It's not like they can refuse. Hopefully, everyone can work together amicably moving forward. I know. That's a big ask.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

As said though, this is being done only as a political punishment. FDOT don't know anything about monorails or their safety standards.

 

[JohnD]

As said though, this is being done only as a political punishment. FDOT don't know anything about monorails or their safety standards.

As they are now statutorily required to do so, they'll have to learn then, won't they?

 

[jeanericuser001]

don't feed the troll guys

That is after all what killed maelstrom. Then again maybe that is what universal needs to do. Their troll problem now is so bad that you would need the doom slayer just to eliminate them all.

 

[Surferboy567]

Did they add this to their lawsuit? Seems like an easy addition.

 

[celluloid]

That is after all what killed maelstrom. Then again maybe that is what universal needs to do. Their troll problem now is so bad that you would need the doom slayer just to eliminate them all.

The ride where Maelstrom was has more trolls than ever in it.

 

[mkt]

Now can they inspect Space Mountain and force them to redo the track next?

Don't joke. The new regulations are vague enough.

 

[wdwmagic]

Did they add this to their lawsuit? Seems like an easy addition.

It is mentioned in the main lawsuit as further evidence of retaliatory behavior.