News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections

[Lilofan]

Here are my issues with the monrail inspections:

-it’s clearly part of a pattern of retaliation against disney, regardless of whether inspections may be a good thing or not. this wasn’t prompted by an accident or safety issue that just came up, it’s all about DeSantis and the legislature using the power of the government for retaliation

-the inspections can (and i expect) will be on the up-and-up but that doesn’t stop the governor or the CFTOD or the legislature from using the results of the inspection as some bad faith gotcha. I can totally see DeSantis holding one of his fake press conferences at Reedy Creek HQ waving around a report about how unsafe Disney is or whatever

If monorail state inspections make the monorail non operational , Disney needs to staff the guest relations desk with extra CMs to handle the overload of guests lining up to express feedback.

 

[flynnibus]

If WDW is somehow kept form running the monorail, wouldn't they just do what they have always done, and run buses instead?

Sure… but guests will still be upset and the disruption would impact disney in both guest sat and operational costs

 

[lazyboy97o]

I've read a good chunk of this thread, and whole time, I keep thinking...buses.

A good number of times I've visited, WDW has run buses in place of the monorail whenever the monorail is down.

If WDW is somehow kept form running the monorail, wouldn't they just do what they have always done, and run buses instead?

So the solution to a governmental abuse is to just mask over and ignore it? We can all just pretend it isn’t happening?

Authoritarian systems are built on addressing some need. The abuses justified and rationalized because of their potential good and the availability of alternatives.

 

[celluloid]

And again, we’re talking years ago…if course I’ve heard about the problems, but you’re making it seem like the parks are falling apart and all guests should increase their life insurance to enter the gates…when I see the accidents occurring present day on a regular basis, then I think there’s reason for concern.

Some of these things happened last week. The oldest things on the list are from 2018 and most recent from around a week, with a lot of 2022 in there with Splash Mountain logs sinking again. You read what you want to read. The park was hardly open in 2020. You make it sound like these events occured a decade ago and under different leadership.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Some of these things happened last week. The oldest things on the list are from 2018 and most recent from around a week, with a lot of 2022 in there with Splash Mountain logs sinking again. You read what you want to read. The park was hardly open in 2020. You make it sound like these events occured a decade ago and under different leadership.

Didn’t you say under Pressler?
Sure, stuff happens everyday…
The apocalypse isn’t here, Space Mountain isn’t going to fall down, yes, some of the Splash logs sprung leaks, yes one of the JC boats took on water and “sank”
I get it, you’re concerned…if you ever come up to NJ/NY, if I were you, I wouldn’t drive through the Lincoln Tunnel or take Amtrak to Penn Station…talk about leaks…

 

[celluloid]

Didn’t you say under Pressler?
Sure, stuff happens everyday…
The apocalypse isn’t here, Space Mountain isn’t going to fall down, yes, some of the Splash logs sprung leaks, yes one of the JC boats took on water and “sank”
I get it, you’re concerned…if you ever come up to NJ/NY, if I were you, I wouldn’t drive through the Lincoln Tunnel or take Amtrak to Penn Station…talk about leaks…

I started with that as a comparison to your claim that lack of upkeep has not made things unsafe. Just because no one got seriously hurt, does not mean is safe situations. Those are legit really bad safety things to happen. Everything on the list was from the last five years or less. If you think boat rides sinking to bottoming out where guests are in the attractions water are every day ..geesh.

You are shifting the argument from your original post.

So now you want a false dilemma with New Jersey/NY to the safety theme park operations to justify I should just be grateful the concerns are not to that level? That is setting WDW's standards low.

 

[mkt]

My question: Does the state of Florida have ANY person in its payroll qualified to inspect monorails?

 

[celluloid]

My question: Does the state of Florida have ANY person in its payroll qualified to inspect monorails?

I can't imagine it is the most diffcult thing to hire for or learn compared to other large inspections. They have bright line now so I think a transportation system with trains that have not been much updated in decades on a mostly shuttle and circuit system won't be rocket science.

 

[mkt]

I can't imagine it is the most diffcult thing to hire for or learn compared to other large inspections. They have bright line now so I think a transportation system with trains that have not been much updated in decades on a mostly shuttle and circuit system won't be rocket science.

Brightline is private, not public.

 

[celluloid]

Brightline is private, not public.

It will have inspectors, who will be fine getting hired with government benefits. Having an inspector skillet is respectable, but not unobtainable.

 

[flynnibus]

My question: Does the state of Florida have ANY person in its payroll qualified to inspect monorails?

Im going with the assumption that true rail lines have similar and more complex systems that make dealing with a monorail a subset of the kinds of skills they already have.

 

[seascape]

I would like to know when the State inspects the MCO Monorails? Do they do it during the day or during the over night hours. If they work around the airports schedule they will have to do the same for Disney or they are subject to further litigation. Plus is they work around MCO's schedule and don't shut down their system this is another easy case to win and another example of the Florida legislature damaging Disney for using their 1st Amendment Rights.

 

[MAGICFLOP]

I would like to know when the State inspects the MCO Monorails? Do they do it during the day or during the over night hours. If they work around the airports schedule they will have to do the same for Disney or they are subject to further litigation. Plus is they work around MCO's schedule and don't shut down their system this is another easy case to win and another example of the Florida legislature damaging Disney for using their 1st Amendment Rights.

I'm sure they must, but the airport monorails have a large walkway between the stations and (between trains) for downtime usage.

I often wondered what would happen (God forbid) there was a fire on a monorail and it stopped between stations.

 

[lazyboy97o]

There are no monorails at Orlando International Airport. Just because it’s elevated doesn’t mean it’s a monorail.

 

[celluloid]

I'm sure they must, but the airport monorails have a large walkway between the stations and (between trains) for downtime usage.

I often wondered what would happen (God forbid) there was a fire on a monorail and it stopped between stations.

Imagine one on a Skyliner Station or cabin.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I'm sure they must, but the airport monorails have a large walkway between the stations and (between trains) for downtime usage.

I often wondered what would happen (God forbid) there was a fire on a monorail and it stopped between stations.

It’s happened in 1985- http://www.bigfloridacountry.com/monorailaccidents.htm

There are no monorails at Orlando International Airport. Just because it’s elevated doesn’t mean it’s a monorail.

While technically true, many people refer to it as a monorail.

 

[Cliff]

My question: Does the state of Florida have ANY person in its payroll qualified to inspect monorails?

The train itself?...prolly not. The structural integrity of the concrete might not be hard to do and could possibly be done by general concrete engineers that study buildings or even elevated concrete track like Miami's "people mover" or "Metro Mover".

Yeah...the mechanics of the Monorail inspection might need to refered to Bombardier and outside companies like that.

 

[Trauma]

I've read a good chunk of this thread, and whole time, I keep thinking...buses.

A good number of times I've visited, WDW has run buses in place of the monorail whenever the monorail is down.

If WDW is somehow kept form running the monorail, wouldn't they just do what they have always done, and run buses instead?

Until the bus inspections start!

 

[mkt]

Until the bus inspections start!

NGL, the new rules are written just vaguely enough that theoretically they could shut down any attraction that's on a track for an inspection, provided that load and unload aren't the same area.

 

[Nubs70]

My question: Does the state of Florida have ANY person in its payroll qualified to inspect monorails?

I'm sure they have a few licensed PE's of pertinent disciplines that are qualified.