lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It’d say maybe we’ll get a suit about this too, but if they don’t fix the definition it seems they might be able to just laugh at the state.
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News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections
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Exactly!! I can’t imagine anything good coming from a politically motivated hate based “inspection.” Doesn’t Florida have real issues caused by flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc to deal with? Desantis is starting to create problems he’s not going to be able to manage.
Henry Mystic
Author of "A Manor of Fact"
That pretty much sums up the entire Reedy Creek "replacement" process.
Florida legislature approves bill to require state inspections of Walt Disney World monorails
Florida legislature approves bill to require state inspections of Walt Disney World monorails
Florida legislature approves bill to require state inspections of Walt Disney World monorails
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lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Maybe. Will Disney go for an injunction or point out that the monorail isn’t in a special district created by local act, but one created by special act?Florida legislature approves bill to require state inspections of Walt Disney World monorails
Florida legislature approves bill to require state inspections of Walt Disney World monorails
Florida legislature approves bill to require state inspections of Walt Disney World monorails
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
Granted that someone was killed last year on an Orlando attraction that is inspected by the state, I don’t know if I would welcome this.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Well FDOT does transportation inspections, and would do the monorail, while FDACS does amusement ride. They also passed the Tyre Sampson act that is supposed to help ride safety (not directly related to the monorail as it’s not a ride)
It was operated not at the state intended it to be operated. That is on the operator. Not the state. The state inspection is the one who found this out. Not the other way around. You argue for the state on this one.
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
Would the inspections they plan to implement have avoided it happening?
How can we possibly know the answer to that without knowing exact details of what the inspection entails and what caused the incident in question?
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Lets be clear that the goal of this bill and of the inspections it will enable is not primarily improved safety. The goals will be twofold 1) to provide the government a way to create difficulties for Disney if it wishes to do so 2) to provide the governor with information he can sensationalize in his ongoing PR battle with Disney.
Would state inspections of the monorail focusing on safety be a good thing? Perhaps. But that is absolutely not the conversation we are having.
Would state inspections of the monorail focusing on safety be a good thing? Perhaps. But that is absolutely not the conversation we are having.
flynnibus
Premium Member
uhhh... the state inspection didn't figure it out.. the post accident investigation figured it out (which was also outsourced). The ride had been inspected by the state and found to be fine... just 4 months earlier. The state inspection process was not in depth enough to catch the flaw because the state inspection process isn't really designed to. The state inspections are more about checking compliance to published processes and standards.
The Icon accident isn't a praise for state oversight at all - if anything it should remind people the state isn't overseeing every step, the inspections are designed to be ensuring the operator is doing everything they are supposed to be doing.
This is a heck of a claim.
Are you saying the people doing the inspections will be handpicked to carry out a vendetta against Disney ?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
I always love when people kvetch about name calling but then unknowingly insist we treat those involved as liars.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
The inspectors involved will be aware of the expectations and preferences of their superiors and will be selected based on their superiors' anticipation that they will meet those expectations and honor those preferences.
Who am I insisting you treat as a liar?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It doesn’t even need to get to that level. The criteria for performing the work can easily be designed to cause issues regardless of who is doing the actual work.
We saw it in action during the announcement speech over health code violations at restaurants when all violations, of varying severity, over some unspecified time, over hundreds of venues were lumped together to create a really big number. A restaurant with a 99/100 score had a violation but you could change the rules to make it a big deal.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Absolutely. There are a thousand ways to get the results the government wants.
flynnibus
Premium Member
The inspectors are only one piece of this puzzle.
Today, the standards they would apply aren't even known. So the people making the rules can still be overbearing and cause all kinds of disruptions that would be detrimental to Disney. They can also be difficult on WHEN this work is done, or how long it should take, again creating negatives for Disney.
This doesn't require corruption - it just requires people to knowingly and willingly make requirements that will cause negative impacts.