What was there in the blog that makes you say that?
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What was there in the blog that makes you say that?
I would assume the people on the tour are SW fans, of course that's an assumption. But I can't imagine patying for this 7 hour tour and not being a fan.
Then I'm reading the blog and what the tour guides are saying:
- the tour guide talks about the history of Star Wars and sound. THX, the sound certification system created for Return of the Jedi was the next sound revolution that Walt Disney played a part in with the creation of Fantasound.
- As we are walk by references to Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the guide shares the connection between the film and Lucasfilm's ILM.
- As we wait, our tour guide tells us stories about Walt planning and building Disneyland. He shares that Walt pushed the envelope with Imagineering which led to the creation of Star Tours after a partnership with George Lucas.
- The guide continues by saying that Disney Legend Tony Baxter saw that Star Wars would fit well with the motion simulator technology.
- We are told that original Star Wars designer Ralph McQuarrie was approached to work on the Prequels. He said he felt that it should be moved to a new generation. That is what brought desginer Doug Chiang to Lucasfilm.
Whether it affects me or not is a matter of opinion. I want Disney to start being more thoughtful in putting together great products to offer. It used to be that if Disney offered it, you could go into it with a fairly high level of certainty that it was a quality product. I don't think that's the case any more. Now it's very much "caveat emptor". If some of these upsells fail, it teaches Disney that they need to spend more time thinking through the value of what they are offering. And perhaps I can start expecting quality offerings from them again.
Trust me though. Me wanting it to fail will in no way affect whether it succeeds or not. It will sink or swim of its own volition. Not sure why it even bothers others if I want it to fail.
I would agree that they seem to be reaching pretty far to fill up the tour, but, they really don't have much to work with. The SW stuff that's in the park really doesn't go that deep into the movie universe, so, it would seem a bit of a non sequitur for the tour guide to just start spouting off SW trivia. What they do have is the park itself and an attempt to be a 'behind the scenes' tour that the other VIP tours give you.
I'm not trying to defend that this is time or money well-spent, but I don't think this is about in-universe knowledge of SW. Although, I do expect any guide to translate all the Aurebesch.
Princess Leia
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Just thought of this- another story for the tour guide to talk about George Lucas's effect on the parks (and tie in the GMR) would be to talk about how the original concept for the extinct Alien Encounter ride was based off of Ridley Scott's Alien, and that Eisner brought Lucas on to write the story of AE. Another defunct attraction to mention would be Captain EO, since Lucas wrote and produced it.
edit- there's a Harrison Ford AA in GMR (Indiana Jones). Indiana Jones was co-created by Lucas. And wait! There's an Indy stunt show at DHS!
edit- there's a Harrison Ford AA in GMR (Indiana Jones). Indiana Jones was co-created by Lucas. And wait! There's an Indy stunt show at DHS!
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21stamps
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Ok, but most of the "upsells" are selling out. So many people clearly enjoy them. You can want Disney to do better, but not have to want certain things that people enjoy to fail.
I've said this sooo many times-
I went back and forth on EMM because it did seem expensive for what it was. But then I couldn't get a FP for Mine Train, so I reluctantly booked the "upcharge", and guess what? It was one of the amazing hours of my vacation , we had a blast, we didn't have to worry about wait times for those attractions later on.,and I will do it on every trip when it s offered. It was 100% worth the cost.
Not getting the 7DMT FP turned out to be the best thing that could have happened to me. The memories we made during that hour are something that would never have been possible otherwise.
We'll have to disagree on whether "most" of the upsells are selling out. Yes, Highway in the Sky is. And EMM has sellouts. But Disney After Dark had to give away most of their tickets, Tiana was a major bust, the MK cabanas have been marked down and the jury is still very much out on this tour.
In my mind, that's not a great track record.
danlb_2000
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So registration started at 1:00, but didn't actually start until 1:42. That 42 minutes wasted already.
21stamps
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You forgot to add-
...and every store in Disney Springs is about to go out of business.
Dessert parties are selling out.
Dining packages are selling out.
EMM is selling out.
That's all I know. I don't care about the cabanas because I would never do one, or most of the other upsells. I tend not to waste my time on things I don't care about and have no intention of doing..especially when they have 0 impact on me.
This SW tour does interest me, and I do look forward to someone's full description of it.
As for Disney After Dark, I would LOVE to do it. I definitely think that one is "worth it". The dates when it is offered are not possible for me. Maybe next year I hope.
As I said, we'll have to disagree on the definition of "most".
I don't think their track record is great. Still looks a lot like throwing crap at the fan to see what sticks.
I don't think any of us knows how well Disney Springs is doing, which is why I didn't include it in my list.
The fact that it was busy over the peak holiday season is no indication that it's a booming success overall though.
Well the only reason I mentioned the Tour Guide knowledge was in response to:I would agree that they seem to be reaching pretty far to fill up the tour, but, they really don't have much to work with. The SW stuff that's in the park really doesn't go that deep into the movie universe, so, it would seem a bit of a non sequitur for the tour guide to just start spouting off SW trivia. What they do have is the park itself and an attempt to be a 'behind the scenes' tour that the other VIP tours give you.
I'm not trying to defend that this is time or money well-spent, but I don't think this is about in-universe knowledge of SW. Although, I do expect any guide to translate all the Aurebesch.
I don't think the tour guide the the blogger had could be characterized as a " Star Wars Geek"
From what I saw and read, Brer Jon was right on the money.
Princess Leia
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.laug...uided-tour-adds-extra-days/amp/?client=safari
They just added Wednesdays to the tour dates
They just added Wednesdays to the tour dates
I am Timmy
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I completely agree. Well said.
I am Timmy
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Ok, my 24 year old son can read and write Aurebesch. When his friends are over, and their all playing Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic together on their laptops, they are constantly asking him what signs say in the game. He also would write me notes and make me translate them to english using the translator he provided. I think he should go be a tour guide... if he wasn't so shy!I would agree that they seem to be reaching pretty far to fill up the tour, but, they really don't have much to work with. The SW stuff that's in the park really doesn't go that deep into the movie universe, so, it would seem a bit of a non sequitur for the tour guide to just start spouting off SW trivia. What they do have is the park itself and an attempt to be a 'behind the scenes' tour that the other VIP tours give you.
I'm not trying to defend that this is time or money well-spent, but I don't think this is about in-universe knowledge of SW. Although, I do expect any guide to translate all the Aurebesch.
Did I read it correctly that they rode TGMR as part of the tour? IF so, thats a bit silly. Sure, there is the Star Wars scene in finale show, but still seems a bit lack luster. And if you dont have a child participating in JTA, you just stand there and watch the show?
Princess Leia
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When my parents went to Disney a couple years ago, they watched JTA and enjoyed it for what it was.
I think it's dumb that they're not tying in the Indy scenes on GMR with Lucas. They talk about Lucasfilm and ILM on the tour, so it's odd that they won't recognize Lucas's second most popular property. Would it really be so hard to say "While Star Wars is not a focus of the ride, George Lucas's 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' plays an integral role"?
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They're definitely stretching to fill time and justify the tour's existence (and price).
The tour just does not seem to be much more than any average park goer could experience on their own.
Path of the Jedi: included in price of admission to HS
Launch Bay: included in price of admission to HS
TGMR: included in price of admission to HS
JTA: Anybody who paid admission can watch the show (if you have a child though, there is some value in this)
Star Tours: included in price of admission to HS
March of the First Order: included in price of admission to HS
A Galaxy Far Away show: included in price of admission to HS
Dinner at Backlot Express: Anybody who paid admission can eat there
Aside from having a child that wants to do JTA, I just dont see where the value is, or why I would need to waste 7 hours doing all of the shows and attractions I could more than likely do in half the time on my own and save $150 per person. And it does not sound like the tour guides are dishing up anything juicy or even more interesting than what a quick Google search could offer.
I added what got left out.
Just because there is no value for you, does not mean there is no value for anyone.