Disneysea05
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They tried it on a shoestring budget, and people were smart enough to realize that. We will never know how a fully immersive, highly detailed, properly budgeted DCA would have been received in 2001.
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DCA : How would you fix the park ?
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TROR
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That must be why the park increased in attendance after they remodeled the park to celebrate California’s romantic history and culture.
The original park had more California culture than it does now. They remodeled it to reflect Walt's interpretation of California instead of the more generic and local's experience of California. I quite enjoyed the original California parade with the catchy tune. Whoopi Goldberg's Golden Dreams was a good introduction to California although quite depressing when Chinese railroad workers were blown up. People didn't like the original park. I felt it was a dud. It was too much like the local streets of California. Why pay admission to what you can see outside for free? The new revised version is much better. It's Disney California Adventure instead of Disney's California Adventure.
They did no such thing. They put in cars land which is a Pixar cartoon land with rocks channeling New Mexico or Arizona , turned the California pier into a cartoon land, turned the hotel into marvel attraction, etc. With a proper budget this was going to be Westcot. The California thing was a cheap last minute job that was an epic failure.
SSG
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DCA's biggest problem is Disney doesn't know what it wants the park to be. Is it a celebration of California? Fine. The park got better in 2012 when DCA began going strong in that direction. Or is it the IP park? That is also fine if the entire park goes that way. But this mash up of Pixar, Marvel and California is just weird in total, even if some of the individual areas are fun. Disney should pick a path and stay with it.
I disagree. No park is entirely consistent, but they all have one thing in common and that is Disney. The park has more than enough celebration of California. I don't get why the park should carry the California theme much further than creatively possible. Disney has many theme parks because all of Disney's ideas can't be contained in one park. They aren't going to make a bunch of Disney IPs to support a theme park. It's always the opposite. The theme parks support Disney.
BasiltheBatLord
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This would be a positive change.
BasiltheBatLord
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Who said CA was my state? Hellll no.
Californian Elitist
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Not everyone here is native Californian.
California has a lot of haters. You should know this by now lol.
SuddenStorm
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Get a time machine, go back to 2014. Prohibit WDI from developing any Star Wars expansion in Disneyland, tell them it has to go in DCA.
Get a time machine, go back to 2017. Prohibit WDI from putting Runaway Railway in Disneyland, tell them it has to go in DCA.
That way, DCA has 3 new E ticket experiences and two lands that are on par with what Disneyland has to offer. That should help balance crowds across the resort and make DCA a more worthwhile destination.
Get a time machine, go back to 2017. Prohibit WDI from putting Runaway Railway in Disneyland, tell them it has to go in DCA.
That way, DCA has 3 new E ticket experiences and two lands that are on par with what Disneyland has to offer. That should help balance crowds across the resort and make DCA a more worthwhile destination.
Suspirian
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*cracks nuckles*
The only areas of DCA that need to be improved IMO are Hollywoodland and Paradise/Pixar Pier. Theres ride concepts for other areas of the park but I could literally ramble for days about this so I'll keep it short. (I don't know what the story or aesthetic of Marvel Land will be so I wont comment on that).
I would convert the entire area surrounding the bay (Pixar Pier and Pacific Wharf) to Pacific Wharf. Pixar Pier can remain as a subland but I would add more attractions of substance instead of flat ride. I'd also do away with the neighborhoods concept and the tacky decor to resemble something more along the lines of Trolly Park in TDS. The remaining area would be redone to resemble San Francisco (the victorian houses and current Pacific Wharf area would remain.
Hollywoodland is an easy fix to be honest. Its just a matter of redressing. I'd remove monsters now that Pixar Pier exists and replace it with something of the period. Maybe a film noir related ride similar to the unused D*ck Tracy concept. I'd also change the exterior if GOTG so that its an easier transition between Hollywoodland and Marvel land.
I feel like any change of theme for the park that wouldn't be generic would require drastic changes, but an idea I had would be to change the park from California to the Pacific Coast in general. It could involve Coastal areas of North, Central, and South America. Could also branch out farther into Polynesia, Australia, costal Asian countries literally anything that borders or is surrounded by the pacific ocean. Doesn't Disney Pacific have a nice ring to it?
The only areas of DCA that need to be improved IMO are Hollywoodland and Paradise/Pixar Pier. Theres ride concepts for other areas of the park but I could literally ramble for days about this so I'll keep it short. (I don't know what the story or aesthetic of Marvel Land will be so I wont comment on that).
I would convert the entire area surrounding the bay (Pixar Pier and Pacific Wharf) to Pacific Wharf. Pixar Pier can remain as a subland but I would add more attractions of substance instead of flat ride. I'd also do away with the neighborhoods concept and the tacky decor to resemble something more along the lines of Trolly Park in TDS. The remaining area would be redone to resemble San Francisco (the victorian houses and current Pacific Wharf area would remain.
Hollywoodland is an easy fix to be honest. Its just a matter of redressing. I'd remove monsters now that Pixar Pier exists and replace it with something of the period. Maybe a film noir related ride similar to the unused D*ck Tracy concept. I'd also change the exterior if GOTG so that its an easier transition between Hollywoodland and Marvel land.
I feel like any change of theme for the park that wouldn't be generic would require drastic changes, but an idea I had would be to change the park from California to the Pacific Coast in general. It could involve Coastal areas of North, Central, and South America. Could also branch out farther into Polynesia, Australia, costal Asian countries literally anything that borders or is surrounded by the pacific ocean. Doesn't Disney Pacific have a nice ring to it?
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RescueTheDay
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Which would make the theme even messier. I don’t see how this helps the park find its identity.
SuddenStorm
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DCA's theme has been botched from the start. It was a HUGE mistake for Disney to limit an entire park to "California".
Instead of focusing on the California part of the name, Disney should be focusing on the "Adventure" part. Both Star Wars, Mickey and Minnie's Railway, and Marvel all help this.
Disney Irish
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I have to agree with everyone else. I understand you love the idea of a romanticized version of California history but local Californians just don't want that. Most of us grew up already learning about the history of this great state of ours in school. From taking field trips to real historic sites to writing reports on the history we've been learning about California since age 5. So its no surprise that most aren't interested in taking a trip to a place that quite frankly reminds them of a school field trip.
So leave the touches of CA that make sense, like Buena Vista Street (DCA's version of Main St.) and maybe Grizzly Peak, but retheme the rest to something non-CA.