IT IS NOT A LINE JUMPING PROGRAM! It simply gives a return time to those who can not wait on lines for whatever reason of which there are many. Everybody still has to wait the same amount of time, sometimes even longer but they don't do it on the line. It is not a line cutting program
Who said you could skip a 45 minute wait? And usually a less than 30 minute wait gets you waived in. And if the CMs do have an issue scanning your card (old system), you'd be waived in past that 45 or more minute wait.
That may have been your personal experience, but that is not the policy and that is not the experience of the vast majority of DAS users. 10-15 minute standby wait, yes. Anything longer, you get a return time.
My wife needs DAS and in the last 10 visits using it we have always been given a return time if the wait is over 15 minutes.
I have Pre-check and now Clear. I have yet to wait in a line really for Orlando. At home my lines are always pretty short. Truthfully the 2 hours by plane is my hardest part. Last trip I had a kid kicking my seat and grandma and grandpa were "sleeping" that really started my trip off poorly. While my family was out that night I had to stay in and chill.
Hopefully you get to board early too, or in case I can't I try to be one of the last on the plane. The worst is when it lands and everyone rushes to stand and wait for the plane to actually deplane.
I am one of those jerks who stands immediately
I no longer care. I need to, but being a shorty I can stand up straight and not hit the ceiling. I need to start moving so I do in the confined area. But flying is way easier on me than driving so you do what you can do! I do often ask for early boarding so I can get the heck off the plane fast. At that point I'm usually kinda a mess with the neuro crap, so I try not to feel guilty asking for pre-boarding. Though especially when solo, I need it.
I think the point he tried to make is, that there are advantages to having DAS, if there wasn't nobody would use it at all,. With the Genie costing now for setting that was free it makes it all the more tempting for those that would game the system to get it, there are certainly people that do. For those folks well they have to make that choice, but it's not something the majority of people will do, and it probably does make it harder for those who legitimately need DAS down the line if the system gets abused.I think there is massive confusion here and not shockingly the Mom Panel was not really answering the question nor give all info.
Lightning Lane is simply where one returns.
LL is not just ILL. It can be ILL, G+ rides, DAS, Baby Swap, etc. Individual Lightning Lane rides are separate and require a fee of like $10-15 per ride.
We cannot pre-book any ILL for free.
G+ is $15 per day unlimited and those can be stacked in a way DAS cannot. DAS can prebook non-ILL rides or do a return time for ILL rides outside of ones with a VQ. If there is a VQ, then you can use the LL to skip part of the queue. You cannot just try to get a return time for VQ and you are stuck doing the 7 am thing like everyone.
DAS can only be pre-booked for the following:
None of those rides are ILL rides. We're even prohibited from a couple non-ILL rides at the moment.
I hope this makes it all clear for DAS users. You can purchase ILL rides if you choose like everyone else. You cannot pre-book for free. You cannot stack DAS like G+ you can pre-book two from the list (non-ILL rides) and have one single floating one though. You can also choose not to book any as I have done and just use the one floating. You can book via the app. If you ever run into issues (and that's a warning because we did a few times in June even) Guest experiences can usually help.
I've used the new system on my last 3 trips and know the good and bad of it.
I agree with your line of thinking, however I disagree on the intent of this poster. Abusers make it harder on those who need it. Obviously I'd pay for whatever works as shown by my airport programs, though that's not something all can do. I hope that they do actually perma-ban found abusers.
Again, I am aware, just pointing out there are people who would abuse it. I would guess there are times when family members go ride something while waiting for their time and leave the actual DAS guest. I don't think anyone is accusing folks here of doing this, just that there are people out there that do it, and that it may have increased with the monetary costs of what used to be free(FP) now. Lots of humans stink in this work, it should be of no surprise, there are women who wore banned outfits just to get a free shirt.
It was ALWAYS an advantage. I mean, early on it was basically Universal Express Unlimited. They had to keep limiting it's benefits because fraud was getting horrible.
I’m most certainly not the one purposely undying the waters here, I CLEARLY said “early on”.