Dangerous state of the Imagination Pavilion

[Bairstow]

The history of such events involves two people dying. It may be works finally causes action but should not be hoped for.

I didn't think anyone was even injured in the Tiki Room fire, let alone killed.

 

[Miss Heinous]

I didn't think anyone was even injured in the Tiki Room fire, let alone killed.

People died at Disneyland from this kind of neglect though... (Big Thunder and Sailing ship Columbia)

 

[danyoung56]

So 3 rides then?

I didn't post to do a count. I posted to show that there's much more to Epcot than shopping and dining.

 

[Miss Heinous]

I didn't post to do a count. I posted to show that there's much more to Epcot than shopping and dining.

Hardly. All you have to do is compare Epcot to other parks in Orlando, or even better EPCOT Center 1989-1993. Epcot has about 5 attractions that are actually worth any time or effort, for a park that is the size of 2 Magic Kingdoms and is 33 years old that is incredibly sad.

 

[Bairstow]

People died at Disneyland from this kind of neglect though... (Big Thunder and Sailing ship Columbia)

Well we're mixing up our narratives then.
No one was complaining that the Columbia or Big Thunder were lame attractions in need of replacement.

 

[danyoung56]

.....for a park that is the size of 2 Magic Kingdoms and is 33 years old that is incredibly sad.

I don't disagree with you. The statement that I disagree with is that Epcot is nothing but a shopping and dining spot, which just isn't true.

 

[Miss Heinous]

Well we're mixing up our narratives then.
No one was complaining that the Columbia or Big Thunder were lame attractions in need of replacement.

Well unfortunately when it comes to Journey Into Imagination the problems are both that it is a lame attraction and that it is becoming unsafe for guests.

 

[Andrew C]

From what I remember reading about the Big Thunder incident, wasn't it due to team members (including management) not following the proper maintenance procedures that were actually in place to prevent incidents like this one from occurring? In additional, operations team members not having proper guidelines in place when they think they hear something in the ride that sounds "weird".

 

[Miss Heinous]

I don't disagree with you. The statement that I disagree with is that Epcot is nothing but a shopping and dining spot, which just isn't true.

Well for anyone who has been to Epcot in the last 15 years it is. Especially when the last new attraction the park received that wasn't a overlay opened 10 years ago.

 

[lazyboy97o]

From what I remember reading about the Big Thunder incident, wasn't it due to team members (including management) not following the proper maintenance procedures that were actually in place to prevent incidents like this one from occurring? In additional, operations team members not having proper guidelines in place when they think they hear something in the ride that sounds "weird".

That's who got the blame, but it was all part of the culture that started with "We have to ride these rides to failure."

 

[Andrew C]

That's who got the blame, but it was all part of the culture that started with "We have to ride these rides to failure."

I found the incident report from the State of California online, link below. Besides this, were there any other later interviews with CM's stating they felt pressured to keep the ride running and/or skip standard maintenance procedures?

http://www.mpimages.net/dlr/compres...derAccident/thundermountainaccidentreport.pdf

 

[lazyboy97o]

I found the incident report from the State of California online, link below. Besides this, were there any other later interviews with CM's stating they felt pressured to keep the ride running and/or skip standard maintenance procedures?

http://www.mpimages.net/dlr/compres...derAccident/thundermountainaccidentreport.pdf

How is the head of Parks and Resorts saying "We have to ride these rides to failure" not pressure?

 

[Andrew C]

How is the head of Parks and Resorts saying "We have to ride these rides to failure" not pressure?

I am not aware of this statement. I assume if I do a search of this forum I can find where this was discussed?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I am not aware of this statement. I assume if I do a search of this forum I can find where this was discussed?

I don't know if it is discussed on here, but the quote appeared in the Los Angeles Times.
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/nov/09/local/me-disney9/3

 

[monothingie]

Test Track
Soarin'
Spaceship Earth
Two CircleVision movies and one 5-screen movie
The American Adventure


Yeah, nothing there but shopping, dining and drinking . . . . .

Guess you've never heard of F&W, the only thing that makes EPCOT profitable...

 

[bethymouse]

My husband smokes, so we were sitting near the Imagination/Captain EO area for a while. Literally no one went into either attraction for 20 minutes and there were no CMs standing outside to greet you. The "flag"/"banner" outside looked as though it was so faded that even I wouldn't fly it at my house ( I have some faded garden flags, but I do end up throwing them away/replacing them).

 

[Markt]

I guess we got out just in time!

What was that theatre in London where the celing collapsed during a performance?

 

[Markt]

What was the theatre in London where the ceiling collapsed during a performance? Something bad will have to happen before corprate jumps

 

[eddy21]

So when were the repairs done for this supposed ceiling collapse? Where are the permits for repair? How is someone going to be injured at imagination besides bored to death?

 

[Markt]

About 80 people were injured when cloth ties a hundred years old let go and ceiling collapsed taking part of the balcony creating pure chaos part way into performance. That national tuts closed the Apollo for three months and all theatres got a inspection.