Cmdr_Crimson
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Speaking of something that was talked about to a screeching halt..How about that Main Street Theater..
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Epcot had like 7 rides before Rat opened. One of the largest parks I the world, and 40 years old. I don’t consider Land, Fiesta, or Nemo rides really. Maybe all three combined equal a real amusement park ride. And Universal doesn’t add Dumbo or teacup type clones in every land they build.I agree that Disney doesn’t feel a need to respond, but I will say… 11 rides in a park on opening day is a better track record then AK and the former MGM
I do think Universal should install some C ticket boat based dark rides and simple dark rides to REALLY start hurting Disney. Something like SLOP.
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James Alucobond
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Which is probably why they don't have many options with no height requirement, limiting their appeal to families with very young children.
Jrb1979
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I have never seen an issue with that. Odds are that family would still pick Disney over Universal if they had mode options with no height requirements.
MadderAdder
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They’re definitely rides…
GimpYancIent
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Interesting, no mention made, that the Golden Ticket Awards (sponsored by Amusements Today) gave "Walt Disney World snagged two awards: Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance at Disney’s Hollywood Studios won Best Dark Ride for a second year. EPCOT’s Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind was chosen as Best New Ride Installation." Maybe because Dollywood snagged 3 awards which outshined Disney?
Nintendo, HttYD, and the Hub will each have a ride for very young children, I don't know if completely without a height restriction.
Imagine a family with a range of kids age and they go to a park where there isn't one ride that doesn't require 'parent swap.'
I hope Uni/EU knows better than to do that.
Imagine a family with a range of kids age and they go to a park where there isn't one ride that doesn't require 'parent swap.'
I hope Uni/EU knows better than to do that.
DisneyDodo
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The bigger problem is not the lack of flat rides, but the fact that even most of their slow dark rides (e.g. ET, CitH, Yoshi) have height requirements for some reason
A 450 million dollar ride better win the award. Imagine if Dollywood had that much money to expand in a single year. Disney budgets are insane.
bhg469
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This!!! Imagine what sea world or busch gardens would do with the same budget?! They're constantly churning out great rides.
Clyde Birdbrain
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I have updated my spreadsheet with D23 Expo announcements for Disneyland and International resorts:
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Basil of Baker Street
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I appreciate Disney's desire to build top notch attractions but I wish they would crank out 2 or 3 C tickets in place if an A.
I'd have to imagine the capital outlay of EPCOT since 2019 is larger than the total value of Dollywood's entire complex.
EricsBiscuit
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Brian Roberts CEO of Comcast says they expect to gain market share with EU and they are on the “offensive” in Orlando. At least Uni gets it. Disney remains clueless until some heads start to roll.
thanks that really helps put the cycle of parks spending in perspective
_caleb
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The marketing department wants them to seem more "authentic."
"See? We're really just fans like all of you in the audience!"
erasure fan1
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Disney is beyond arrogant. They have zero reason to think Uni can put a dent in their market share because of their history. I'm not saying Disney has to worry. But it is better to be proactive rather than reactive. I'm sure Disney is expecting Epic U to be mediocre. Which is funny considering Uni out Disneyed Disney with Potter.
_caleb
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We know that at least some execs at Disney actually do feel threatened by some of what Universal has done.
I wouldn't doubt Josh does. If he was pushing for expansion and Chapek said no thanks its going to make Chapek look like a fool. It's possible the insane price increases are a way to introduce "discounts" that take prices back a few years to keep demand high or more likely to buffer against some attendance loss saying it was part of the plan. I still think the Orlando market is growing for tourism fast enough that Epic universe is going to take on a lot of new demand vs Marketshare from Disney. The Disney parks might be just as crowded but Universal is going to take a lot of that increased demand because Disney refused to build extra capacity. I have met plenty of people in my last few trips that were at Universal or Sea World for the first time because Disney park passes ran out.
WonderWab
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Amazing work. Thank you for doing this!!!