News D23 Expo 2022

scottb411

Well-Known Member
Wait, I thought this board didn’t like it when a theme park was built using IP?
I think that is really for Epcot and Animal Kingdom. In those cases, I think it is about the right IP. In the case of Epcot, I think Finding Nemo works for the Living Seas but Frozen should have been a Magic Kingdom Fantasyland ride. The same with Animal Kingdom. Disney painstakingly built a theme park around animals but it made sense to have Lion King and Jungle Book characters as well. It is the right IP for the park and, with Epcot, very little IP. It existed great on it's own even if it was a little boring to little kids. All of the other theme parks in Orlando cater to kids. Epcot had always been a little more for the adults and educational in a good way that it is losing. The biggest issue is that Disney keeps replacing attractions instead of adding attractions. Universal is adding attractions and catching up to Disney slowly but surely in the overall entertainment options that will be a lot more visible after 2025.
 

fgmnt

Well-Known Member
I’m not defending it. I just don’t understand what is being “desecrated”, can you please explain? At the end of the day they’re swapping out one shoehorned IP for another.
For what it's worth, the attraction was built from the ground up in Florida to feature the intellectual property it currently has. I would not call it shoehorned.
 

CentralFLlife

Well-Known Member
For what it's worth, the attraction was built from the ground up in Florida to feature the intellectual property it currently has. I would not call it shoehorned.
Frontierland is supposed to be the American West, right?

So How does an attraction based on stories from the reconstruction era south, themed to a river in Georgia, and uses the name and logo from a 1984 movie that has absolutely nothing to do with any of the above, thematically fit into Frontierland?
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Frontierland is supposed to be the American West, right?

So How does an attraction based on stories from the reconstruction era south, themed to a river in Georgia, and uses the name and logo from a 1984 movie that has absolutely nothing to do with any of the above, thematically fit into Frontierland?
I care much less about thematic fit than I do quality. This is replacing something exceptional with something that sucks.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
I care much less about thematic fit than I do quality. This is replacing something exceptional with something that sucks.
To be fair, we don’t know that it sucks. Yet. It seems uninspired as of now, but the end product may wow us. That said, the narrative contortions seem silly and unnecessary.
 

jpinkc

Well-Known Member
Don't worry, he will be accompanied by Dr Nigel Channing, who you've been wanting to meet since 1999. Think something along the lines of how Grogu accompanied The Mandalorian at D23.
Now if Disney sets up a meet and greet with Eric Idle, I might be impressed. LOL
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
I'll be curious to see where the announcements fall amongst the usual categories:

The Obvious One

The Pleasant Surprise

The Unpleasant Surprise

The Worst-Kept Secret

The Out-of-Left-Field

The Snooze

The "I Already Forgot About It"

The "Never Gonna Happen"

The Big Swing

And of course, The New Cruise Ship
Okay so, it looks like all the categories were well represented today:


The Obvious One - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

The Pleasant Surprise - The Hatbox Ghost at WDW

The Unpleasant Surprise - Journey of Water and TRON Opening dates - What is taking so long??

The Worst-Kept Secret - Avengers E-Ticket - a secret so poorly kept that Disney had already announced it

The Out-of-Left-Field - San Fransokyo at DCA

The Snooze - Assorted New Meet and Greets

The "I Already Forgot About It" - Pixar Show at Disney Studios Paris

The "Never Gonna Happen" - Moana and Zootopia in Dinoland/"Beyond Frontierland"

The Big Swing - New EPCOT Fireworks

And of course, The New Cruise Ship - The Disney Treasure


. . . Sounds like a D23!
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
I care much less about thematic fit than I do quality. This is replacing something exceptional with something that sucks.
Come off it. We barely even know what the ride will be like on the inside.

If we knew as much about Splash Mountain as we currently do about Tiana's you would probably expect Splash to suck too. A look at the exterior and a broad premise only tells so much of the story of what the thing will be.
 

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
I'm all for creativity, but I can't be the only person who is kinda tired of the "immersive lands" approach to attractions? Sure, it is great when you have a iconic environments like Harry Potter, Star Wars, and Avatar. In those cases the environments are appealing to potential visitors, and add are a main reason to visit a park (besides the actual rides within the lands).

But not environments/worlds for (insert-latest-female/male lead animated movie). These are all better left for stand-alone rides, in my opinion.

But then where would one put the merch, the food cart, the counter service place, etc….

A gift shop at the exit of the ride ain’t gonna pay the bills!!
 

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