News D23 Expo 2019

[DDLand]

It’s interesting that Walt Disney Co has one of the most beloved brands of all time, “Disney,” and yet they fail to understand what makes Disney distinctive. Would you seek to dilute a brand like Disney? What does Disney even mean anymore?

Marvel Studios has a distinct identity. Pixar and Lucasfilm have distinct identities. They’re siloed, allowed to have their own creative processes and management. ESPN’s headquarters are separate and distinct from Team Disney.

Disney is becoming simply a name, like General Motors. General Motors has brands that are designed to engender emotion, but General Motors is as generic as possible. Should we be surprised that the Simpsons are at a Disney event? No, because Disney doesn’t mean Disney, the Disney Brothers company. No, it means Disney the media equivalent of General Motors.

This is reflected in the so called “Disney”+. It’s also reflected at D23 expo. It’s also reflected at the parks. Disney used to mean something to audiences. Now we can essentially view it as a collection of assets.

What tied the Parks, animation, and movies together? What did Disney mean? They were all compelling stories that uplifted every member of the family. They were positive and gave people hope.

Now what ties everything that Disney owns together? A bloated corporate structure and streaming service intent on dominating the world. The two definitions of Disney will diverge ever more over time.

The Simpsons are indicative of that...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Okay, this looks way more ambitious than what I was expecting

Just at quick glance:
Only substantive change is addition of Moana world of water and demolition of innoventions.
Some greenery...nice but ultimately irrelevant
They purposefully have overgrowth on all world showcase expansion pads...no dice there
Permanent show infrastructure on the island...making the ball less intrusive.

Overall...baring a big surprise...this is minimal for Epcot. Rat and guardians being the only serious step taken from 2017-2023 or more.

Why are you 'taking what you can get' you should never accept less, if a company wants you do accept less you don't buy stuff from that company.

This is true.

Because in my years of being on this board I realize that what we say doesn't mean squat in this situation. The only reason we might even be getting Figment is because his merchandise sells.

Unfortunately...this is also true.

 

[Rteetz]

Joe Rohde is at the expo btw. DAK announcement?

Joe did a panel with Scott Trowbridge on Immersive lands today.

 

[Mike S]

They were all compelling stories that uplifted every member of the family. They were positive and gave people hope.

Things like Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars do that as well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It means she was born in Evil, Wisconsin.

That’s good...witches from places with no sense of humor/sarcasm are much easier to control/make do tricks like trained circus poodles.

Ah. The Star Trek method of continually working with actors you like. Deep Space 9 did that... a lot.

Still one of the best character developed sci-fi/franchises ever filmed...Ron D Moore for LFL!!!

SHE'S A WITCH!!

Aren’t we all?

 

[DDLand]

Joe Rohde is at the expo btw. DAK announcement?

Maybe... Hopefully!

It is important to remember that Joe is the executive in charge of Marvel at the parks. He’ll have a lot to talk about at HK, DLP, and DCA. Maybe even Shanghai!

So don’t count on it, but there is always hope!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Joe did a panel with Scott Trowbridge on Immersive lands today.

That’s the 1,324th time they used the word “immersive” in under 3 days...I’f you’re tracking it.

I’m banking on at least 326 more at the parks panel alone.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Maybe... Hopefully!

It is important to remember that Joe is the executive in charge of Marvel at the parks. He’ll have a lot to talk about at HK, DLP, and DCA. Maybe even Shanghai!

So don’t count on it, but there is always hope!

I’ll take whatever the clown has to say about ANYTHING. We are in 2024 build construction timeline now...and I’m getting old.

 

[Figments Friend]

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And a Porg.

Ahhhhhh.....
The reality of attending a D23 Expo.


Been there, done that.....I'm good.

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[Dr.GrantSeeker]

People line up for that pretty early. I don’t think you’ll get in that line coming in at 7. It’s first come first serve.

So you don’t think 7am is early enough for parks tomorrow?

 

[Figments Friend]

What time does the parks and resorts presentation begin tomorrow? For those of us on the east coast.

1pm.

Looking forward to the aftermath post-announcements.


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[Sirwalterraleigh]

I am in my early 30's and grew up on the original DuckTales and Gummi Bears, though. We all did.

Gummies and duck tales premiered when you were embryonic...

But it’s good you’re a fan.

Things like Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars do that as well.

Some do now...some don’t

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

1pm.

Looking forward to the aftermath post-announcements.


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...it looks like those discussions are gonna be a hoot

 

[Mike S]

So you don’t think 7am is early enough for parks tomorrow?

Well right now I’m thinking it could be. The standby sections are practically empty in here. We did this early again because of what it was like lining up for legends and movies.

 

[Stripes]

Maybe... Hopefully!

It is important to remember that Joe is the executive in charge of Marvel at the parks. He’ll have a lot to talk about at HK, DLP, and DCA. Maybe even Shanghai!

So don’t count on it, but there is always hope!

Joe is no longer the lead of the Marvel portfolio. Scot Drake took it over.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

It’s interesting that Walt Disney Co has one of the most beloved brands of all time, “Disney,” and yet they fail to understand what makes Disney distinctive. Would you seek to dilute a brand like Disney? What does Disney even mean anymore?

Marvel Studios has a distinct identity. Pixar and Lucasfilm have distinct identities. They’re siloed, allowed to have their own creative processes and management. ESPN’s headquarters are separate and distinct from Team Disney.

Disney is becoming simply a name, like General Motors. General Motors has brands that are designed to engender emotion, but General Motors is as generic as possible. Should we be surprised that the Simpsons are at a Disney event? No, because Disney doesn’t mean Disney, the Disney Brothers company. No, it means Disney the media equivalent of General Motors.

This is reflected in the so called “Disney”+. It’s also reflected at D23 expo. It’s also reflected at the parks. Disney used to mean something to audiences. Now we can essentially view it as a collection of assets.

What tied the Parks, animation, and movies together? What did Disney mean? They were all compelling stories that uplifted every member of the family. They were positive and gave people hope.

Now what ties everything that Disney owns together? A bloated corporate structure and streaming service intent on dominating the world. The two definitions of Disney will diverge ever more over time.

The Simpsons are indicative of that...

Excellent observations. However, I would say that Pixar fits the more traditional definition of Disney despite having a distinct identity. Other than that, I think you’re completely on point.

 

[Dr.GrantSeeker]

Well right now I’m thinking it could be. The standby sections are practically empty in here. We did this early again because of what it was like lining up for legends and movies.

That’s good to know. 630am is honestly the earliest I think I can get there. Doors open at 9am, right?

 

[Stripes]

Well right now I’m thinking it could be. The standby sections are practically empty in here. We did this early again because of what it was like lining up for legends and movies.

I hope you got lots of sleep today.

 

[Mike S]

That’s good to know. 630am is honestly the earliest I think I can get there. Doors open at 9am, right?

I think so but you can line up for the panel anytime before.

I hope you got lots of sleep today.

Define “lots” lol.

 

[Mike S]

Honest question: Is D23 actually fun?

The idea of flying to SoCal and waiting in a line ALL NIGHT just to get a spot to hear some movie announcements and new clips that I can easily digest later on from the comfort of my own home.....just does not sound appealing at all.

Is attending this really more about Disney fan cred at this point?

You don’t have to go to the panels. There’s a show floor you can just explore.