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D23 Dissapointment
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ToTBellHop
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They are going to turn d23 into a WAS and not an IS.
Livingwithstartours
Member
I am so mad about this, why must they keep making such horrible decisions. TREAT YOUR FANS to something. Universal's activity has really got me starting to change my opinions of Disney.
doctornick
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To be fair, here is what was said:
WDWThemeParks: "Can you confirm that there will be no Parks and Resorts arena presentation?"
Jeffrey Epstein: "Correct."
So -- assuming this is correct -- this doesn't rule out P&R presentations at D23. Just P&R arena presentations. There could still be smaller displays.
Livingwithstartours
Member
I have gotten my hopes up to many times and there always have been the same results....NOTHING or wow a new vinylmation we want expieriences first not products
NoChesterHester
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I think in this case you don't have much reason to be optimistic.
NoChesterHester
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They are arrogant and stupid. No other explanation is logical.
NoChesterHester
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Pixiedustmaker
Well-Known Member
Undoubtedly there will be years when there aren't big announcements regarding the parks. They can't very well make something up just to have something theme park related to talk about at D23.
NoChesterHester
Well-Known Member
All they announced last year was Fantasy Faire. Not exactly earth shattering.
So you are saying there are no projects underway for the next two years?
doctornick
Well-Known Member
I agree. But I'm just saying that his twitter post doesn't exclude P&R announcements at D23.
Pixiedustmaker
Well-Known Member
Certainly, it is a matter of public record that beyond the $6 billion already spent on parks/resorts during the downturn, and outside of Avatarland (budget at least) and continued work in MK, such as the 7DMT, there will be no major construction projects in the U.S. parks in the immediate future.
Shanghai is a big project, there are a lot of novel worries associated with it. This is a major construction project that will be, and is, underway. Disneyland Paris's early loses impacted WestCot/Longbeach plans, Disney really worries about giving the appearance that it overbuilt, or even underbuilt, in the case of Hong Kong.
For the Disney geek there have been a lot of amazing projects recently, and more still to come:
1. Mystic Manor, awesome attractions
2. Grizzly Gulch, a real Disney original
3. NFL . . . I got my qualms about Mermaid, but BoG looks great, and 7DMT at least is a step, or two, above Barnstormer, YMMV.
4. Shanghai Disneyland. New attractions, new castle park design . . . certainly fodder for what might make its way back to the states.
5. Carsland isn't even a year old yet
GiveMeTheMusic
Well-Known Member
I don't care anymore. I'm excited to plan my Uni trips for 2014 and 2015 so I can Express Pass the living tar out of the new Kong and JP rides, and live in Diagon Alley. Holler at me when there's something new to see at WDW
NoChesterHester
Well-Known Member
Here is why this sucks to me and I don't think it should not be overlooked...
The Parks and Resorts presentation at the D23 Convention is the equivalent for Disney Parks fans that the keynote at the WWDC for Apple fans. As the industry leader Disney should not fear unrealistic expectations, but instead try to surprise and innovate in a way that we couldn't see coming. The D23 Convention is the perfect forum to do so and as a hard core parks fan I find it absolutely insulting. Instead they felt that the 2011 Parks Presentation was a failure due to sky high fan expectations, and it was, so instead of trying to address that by actually knocking our socks off they cancel it.
Think of how the Apple Fanboys would melt down if next year a month before the WWDC Apple announced that they aren't going to show anything new, just "give you an unprecedented look behind our process." ?
So let me get this straight, while ticket prices go up and quality goes down we should sit by complacently while WDI beats their own drum about how they used to create world class experiences. Oh... and we get to see a bunch of crap that never got built to just further incense our fandom.
This sucks. No doubt about it and no sunshine pumping fool is going to make me think otherwise.
The Parks and Resorts presentation at the D23 Convention is the equivalent for Disney Parks fans that the keynote at the WWDC for Apple fans. As the industry leader Disney should not fear unrealistic expectations, but instead try to surprise and innovate in a way that we couldn't see coming. The D23 Convention is the perfect forum to do so and as a hard core parks fan I find it absolutely insulting. Instead they felt that the 2011 Parks Presentation was a failure due to sky high fan expectations, and it was, so instead of trying to address that by actually knocking our socks off they cancel it.
Think of how the Apple Fanboys would melt down if next year a month before the WWDC Apple announced that they aren't going to show anything new, just "give you an unprecedented look behind our process." ?
So let me get this straight, while ticket prices go up and quality goes down we should sit by complacently while WDI beats their own drum about how they used to create world class experiences. Oh... and we get to see a bunch of crap that never got built to just further incense our fandom.
This sucks. No doubt about it and no sunshine pumping fool is going to make me think otherwise.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Where did you get that piece of information? In the quarterly report conference call from May of 2012, Iger said:
"we do not have -- once Fantasyland opens in Florida, we don't have any other big projects right now, other than building out Avatar land at Animal Kingdom. But our capital expenditures, US, for our parks business will decrease."
So at the time of the statement they had no big projects in the works, but that doesn't mean they weren't going to start any more. He did say the capital expenditures would decrease, but that is decreasing from a pretty big number. I recall Jay Rasullo saying that the capital spending on parks would be over $1billion per year, but well less then $2 billion. So let's call it $1.25 billion per year, that still a pretty good number.
MerlinTheGoat
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Pretty much every trusted insider on these forums have stated on numerous occasions lately that DHS is getting a major overhaul in the very near future. Said to be starting this year. And they've got reputations for being correct on such matters.