Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

[mickEblu]

2032? Thats so slow though, much slower than they moved last decade, on anything. If I'm taking them on their word that these projects are approved and funded, they don’t take 8 years.

It was worded that way because they announced a 2031 cruise ship and they were displayed beside him and around the auditorium on the screens as he made that comment. Plus I think five years rather than ‘this decade’ was chosen to allow 2030 slippage.

2032 means they realistically don’t start Villains Land until 2028. Josh has put himself in a position where he’s going to show up for two D23’s in a row, having claimed “shovels were in the ground” during the Villains announcement? We can check back in two years from now, I certainly will still be here. But Josh will have put himself in a terrible position if there isn’t visible construction on every single project (other than possibly Coco, which is I think why it was called out), by summer 2026.

I think the projects most liable to slip are the 2028 ones. Probably not cars, that seems super aggressively proceeding. But most likely I’m being too optimistic on DCA due to the eastern Gateway holdup. I want to see evidence of that project basically start by Q1, same with Avengers.

I think all of them will be completed by 2029/2030 except for Villains Land. I think if you consider how ambitious the land looks, all the other construction projects and where Villains lands on the timeline it appears that mid to late 2031 for MKs 60th is the move. It is slow even by Disney standards but have there ever been this many projects being constructed at the same time domestically?

 

[BrianLo]

I think all of them will be completed by 2029/2030 except for Villains Land. I think if you consider how ambitious the land looks, all the other construction projects and where Villains lands on the timeline it appears that mid to late 2031 for MKs 60th is the move.

Just a reminder that this was Galaxies Edge 1 year from now. The location wasn’t even quite set in stone at Hollywood Studios or barely had been. An entire ride was still to be cut. It opened four years later.

It is slow even by Disney standards but have there ever been this many projects being constructed at the same time domestically?

Maybe not Both, but WDW was actually more than this backbone plan we have.

2016 was Disney Springs, we have next to nothing of significance for this time point. DS was a pretty major project with multiple parking garages and bridges. Plus, let’s not undersell they launched a new resort this year in China.
2017 was Pandora, Harambe stage, a night show, new restaraunt. Arguably bigger than one-ish new attraction and a land/ride overlay.
2018 was Toy Story Play land, a front gate redo, the cars show and MMRR. Maybe smaller than Cars/Monsters Inc.
2019 was Skyliner, RIV, Galaxies Edge. Epcot was actively underway as was Tron. Galaxies Edge also opened at Disneyland.

 

[mickEblu]

Just a reminder that this was Galaxies Edge 1 year from now. The location wasn’t even quite set in stone at Hollywood Studios or barely had been. An entire ride was still to be cut. It opened four years later.

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Maybe not Both, but WDW was actually more than this backbone plan we have.

2016 was Disney Springs, we have next to nothing of significance for this time point. DS was a pretty major project with multiple parking garages and bridges. Plus, let’s not undersell they launched a new resort this year in China.
2017 was Pandora, Harambe stage, a night show, new restaraunt. Arguably bigger than one-ish new attraction and a land/ride overlay.
2018 was Toy Story Play land, a front gate redo, the cars show and MMRR. Maybe smaller than Cars/Monsters Inc.
2019 was Skyliner, RIV, Galaxies Edge. Epcot was actively underway as was Tron. Galaxies Edge also opened at Disneyland.

I forgot to mention that I’m also factoring in what they were trying to accomplish with these announcements. They went big trying to get us optimistic for the future of the parks again. So I think they announced the max of what the realistically could get done in the next 3-7 years. I think if Villains were to open up before 2031 it would be an absolute best case scenario without hit any snags on any of the other projects. Seems like a lot has to go right for Villains since it’s last and perhaps the most ambitious of all the announcements. And by then who will be complaining with all the new stuff recently added and something really big to look forward to for the 60th?

 

[Joel]

WDWM members: no more IP in the parks!

Disney: Villains.

WDWM members: Wheeeeeeeee!!!

Name one person that's had both of those reactions.

 

[UNCgolf]

Name one person that's had both of those reactions.

I'm pretty sure no one here (at least no one remotely reasonable) has said that they should never put IP in the parks either.

 

[BlakeW39]

Hey everyone, been a while. All the news surrounding the parks (and my complicated feelings on it all) got me to come back out and post here again.

So, I have just one question after not posting here for like a year or something.

Can we get a Bob Iger meet & greet for Villains Land?

 

[Coaster Lover]

It's something that would likely have a Lightning Lane, put it that way.

"Slave Leia" M&G confirmed!

 

[Stagecoach]

With indiana jones stunt spectacular moving to animal kingdom [when I was there in sept 23] they had the entrance bit up and signage stating indiana jones stunt spectacular, before placing boarding around that area ,and with storm troopers moving to star wars land ,monsters inc will go all around that area where stunt show was

 

[Architectural Guinea Pig]

Can we get a Bob Iger meet & greet for Villains Land?

Please no, I don't want to get kicked out of the park for slapping his face.

 

[Nubs70]

Is there a reason why Disney construction takes as long as it does? I’ve seen giant Manhattan skyscrapers with over 400 units be built within a span of 3 years.

I know Florida weather is more dodgy but it doesn’t really compute why a multi billion dollar company like Disney has issues with expedited construction.

It appears that WDW only allocates a fixed amount of $$ for construction (CAPEX) per quarter. As a indidual attraction does not have an explicit income per ride (LL not included), ROI is difficult to define. Therefore, construction expenditures have to be justified across park ticket sales as a whole. If park attendance decreases without price increases (no revenue increase), one can expect construction timelines to increase.

 

[bwr827]

Come to life in 5 years doesn’t mean open in 5 years. It means legit construction is taking place and over 5 years projects are planned to open and continue to be constructed.

That’s my understanding.

Villians is early on - they couldn’t start building today if they had flat land and wanted to. “Earth is moving” yeah they are prepping for work around MK that will allow for lots of construction that will prep the land to build a villains land on top.

A new attraction hasn’t come to life if it’s only being constructed. They clearly meant expect these awesome new things within the next five years.

 

[bwr827]

I think all of them will be completed by 2029/2030 except for Villains Land. I think if you consider how ambitious the land looks, all the other construction projects and where Villains lands on the timeline it appears that mid to late 2031 for MKs 60th is the move. It is slow even by Disney standards but have there ever been this many projects being constructed at the same time domestically?

Villains is not opening that late - other projects are coming.

The next five years will be exciting times.

 

[peter11435]

It is slow even by Disney standards but have there ever been this many projects being constructed at the same time domestically?

Disney MGM Studios, Typhoon Lagoon, Pleasure Island, Grand Floridian, Wonders of Life, Norway, Splash Mountain (DL), Yacht Club, Beach Club, Port Orleans, Old Key West and more were all built at the same time.

 

[Tha Realest]

Notice the “everything you heard about will be delivered in five years” was communicated on background, and not said on stage.

 

[aladdin2007]

Disney MGM Studios, Typhoon Lagoon, Pleasure Island, Grand Floridian, Wonders of Life, Norway, Splash Mountain (DL), Yacht Club, Beach Club, Port Orleans, Old Key West and more were all built at the same time.

and Dreamflight...even though just within a building that was already there.

 

[Haymarket2008]

Yeah he just seems like a merch placement. It’d be better if he had like a walk around or something but idk. He feels like a industry plant to me. And i know he has history in the past but still. Country bears and figment are the REAL wdw original characters to me.

Orange Bird is just a much a part of the fabric as Figment and the Bears. He had a blip in time when he went away, but he was a major part of the original 70's experience. He's a literal embodiment of Disney/Florida.

My mother was a fan back in that first decade. She even has a great pic with his walk around character back in 1974.

Here's a good video on his history:

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Disney MGM Studios, Typhoon Lagoon, Pleasure Island, Grand Floridian, Wonders of Life, Norway, Splash Mountain (DL), Yacht Club, Beach Club, Port Orleans, Old Key West and more were all built at the same time.

Those were the days! I’ll add that all 5 of those resorts listed got boat / watercraft service. The Grand didn’t require much more than a dock but I’m pretty sure the others required some if not quite a bit of significant waterway construction?

 

[mickEblu]

Disney MGM Studios, Typhoon Lagoon, Pleasure Island, Grand Floridian, Wonders of Life, Norway, Splash Mountain (DL), Yacht Club, Beach Club, Port Orleans, Old Key West and more were all built at the same time.

Let me rephrase. Anytime recently? As in the last 10 -15 years, since they’ve been making announcements at the first D23 in 2009 or under Iger? They built Disneyland in a year too.

Wow impressive run though.

 

[bwr827]

Notice the “everything you heard about will be delivered in five years” was communicated on background, and not said on stage.

No, it was on stage too. I noted it while watching the recording the next morning. Not your exact words above, but very similar.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Here is the announced timeline for WDW attractions to be completed:

2025 Sum – MK night time parade, Starlight​

2025 ???? – MK – Pirate’s Lounge​

2025 ???? EP – Test Track refresh reopens​

2025 ???? EP – SSE Lounge​

2025 Wint DAK – Zootopia in Tree of Life, “Better Zoogether”​

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2026 ???? DHS – New story to Smugglers Run feat. Mando and Grogu​

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2027 ???? – MK Cars mini land, 2 rides, / Start: early 2025 /​

2027 ???? DAK – Tropical Americas: Indy, Encanto, Carousel Start 2024​

So, there are only three WDW new attractions that don't have a date. One of them is "underway" and the other two start next year.

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???? ???? – MK Villains Land / Start Aug 2024 (“underway”) /​

???? ???? – MK DVC Lounge (former shooting range) / Start 2025 /​

???? ???? DHS – Monstropolis – hanging coaster / Start 2025 /​

Unless Monstropolis take 4 years to build, and Villains, 5 years; everything mentioned above will be finished well before the five year mark of 2029.