Cuts coming to every area of parks and resorts - thanks to Shanghai and Paris

[PhotoDave219]

Nearly as much as a one-day ticket, surely.

There were $12.

http://allears.net/tp/etik.htm

 

[PhotoDave219]

But maybe it also makes the most profit.

This isnt the first time Orlando suffers to make up for financial shortfalls

 

[ParentsOf4]

I agree with most of this although I think some of the "doom & gloomers" as they are called around here are taking pleasure in this decline as well.

Doom-and-gloomers feel passionately about WDW. By their very nature, their beliefs in Disney's old standards are so strong that anything that does not (in their eyes) measure up to those old standards represents yet another nail in WDW's coffin.

The New Fantasyland - "A couple of cheap meet & greets plus one of Disneyland's worst attractions."
FastPass+ - "The end of spontaneity."
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train - "It was supposed to be so much better."

None of these views are necessarily wrong but, ultimately, they are just opinions.

In this particular case, nothing good can be derived from reduced staff, reduced park hours, etc. No one can sanely suggest, "The water parks are opening 1 hour later and closing 1 hour earlier despite record crowds; that's great for Guests!"

If the doom-and-gloomers are finding any solace, it's that these cuts are so bad that no one can reasonably defend them.

For once, the doom-and-gloomers are unquestionably right.

 

[Cesar R M]

Not to derail but often both sides pray for God's assistance in war but god only seems to answer those with the best artillery. Maybe God is as materialistic as us?

I would put an image of America's Rambo Jesus, but then I would hurt a lot of the religious people in here...

 

[NearTheEars]

Doom-and-gloomers feel passionately about WDW. By their very nature, their beliefs in Disney's old standards are so strong that anything that does not (in their eyes) measure up to those old standards represents yet another nail in WDW's coffin.

The New Fantasyland - "A couple of cheap meet & greets plus one of Disneyland's worst attractions."
FastPass+ - "The end of spontaneity."
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train - "It was supposed to be so much better."

None of these views are necessarily wrong but, ultimately, they are just opinions.

In this particular case, nothing good can be derived from reduced staff, reduced park hours, etc. No one can sanely suggest, "The water parks are opening 1 hour later and closing 1 hour earlier despite record crowds; that's great for Guests!"

If the doom-and-gloomers are finding any solace, it's that these cuts are so bad that no one can reasonably defend them.

For once, the doom-and-gloomers are unquestionably right.

Great post.

Even me, a glass half full of pixie dust poster here, cannot defend, or positively spin cuts like this, if indeed all of the rumors are true.

 

[Cesar R M]

There's all kinds of devious ideas that could be adopted for on-property guests that would effectively screw everyone else.

Imagine if Disney resorts guests were given "complimentary" re-rides ("All You Can Ride"-type of thing) whereas other day guests have to pay extra for the same perk. Lee alluded to a similar kind of up-charge. If that was "added" as a perk while EMH were eliminated, the operational savings could be substantial, I'd think. It would further diminish the value of the product, but at this point, who in charge cares?

Considering how many companies took the idea of what the airlines did.
They charged a TON of fees because "the gas is so high". Gas is record low and they are swimming in profit.
I wouldnt be surprised if they even started to charge entrance to bathrooms..

A smart Business team would cut their losses at....
Shanghai and Paris.

Please let me know if Disney comes up with a smart Business team.....

A smart but not greedy business team would also reduce executive compensation and high level cuts as well as reduction in useless stuff (hint.. mommy bloggers), not cutting their most profitable segment. Segment that might save their butts if the Marvel starts suffering of superhero fatigue and next movies fail badly.

 

[Cesar R M]

Maybe Disney could go the Kanye route and ask Mark Zuckerburg for a billion dollar bailout

or the bank route during the worst recession of the new years...
aka go to Washington in their private jets and ask for a public bailout with almost zero interest rates.

 

[Cesar R M]

No, because they see all the Marvel attractions in Uni and just Marvel merchandise in WDW....

Not to rain in to the parade, but all Uni's designs/attractions/heroes/villains were from the old cartoon versions.. not the new cinematic universe versions.

 

[LAKid53]

Not to rain in to the parade, but all Uni's designs/attractions/heroes/villains were from the old cartoon versions.. not the new cinematic universe versions.

Which, depending on the character, will never show up at WDW other than as merchandise....

 

[PhotoDave219]

Doom-and-gloomers feel passionately about WDW. By their very nature, their beliefs in Disney's old standards are so strong that anything that does not (in their eyes) measure up to those old standards represents yet another nail in WDW's coffin.

The New Fantasyland - "A couple of cheap meet & greets plus one of Disneyland's worst attractions."
FastPass+ - "The end of spontaneity."
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train - "It was supposed to be so much better."

None of these views are necessarily wrong but, ultimately, they are just opinions.

In this particular case, nothing good can be derived from reduced staff, reduced park hours, etc. No one can sanely suggest, "The water parks are opening 1 hour later and closing 1 hour earlier despite record crowds; that's great for Guests!"

If the doom-and-gloomers are finding any solace, it's that these cuts are so bad that no one can reasonably defend them.

For once, the doom-and-gloomers are unquestionably right.

And most of us that are lumped in with the doom-and-gloom crowd really don't want the bad things to come true. I want people to have great vacations and the parks more successful than ever.

However when you raise prices constantly you expect more for your money, not less.

My personal standards for Disney are pretty darn high, some Cast Member friends have the same standards, and the company as a whole simply doesn't meet them.

 

[RWilliams]

And most of us that are lumped in with the doom-and-gloom crowd really don't want the bad things to come true. I want people to have great vacations and the parks more successful than ever.

However when you raise prices constantly you expect more for your money, not less.

My personal standards for Disney are pretty darn high, some Cast Member friends have the same standards, and the company as a whole simply doesn't meet them.

Exactly! And the front line cast members that care are the ones who get the ire of the disappointed guests as well. Cast morale has been low for awhile, the company just doesn't care about us. I fear for what it's going to be like once these cuts start rolling out more and more. We are disposable.

 

[raven]

Exactly! And the front line cast members that care are the ones who get the ire of the disappointed guests as well. Cast morale has been low for awhile, the company just doesn't care about us. I fear for what it's going to be like once these cuts start rolling out more and more. We are disposable.

Sadly, they can care less too. CMs come and go and Casting will always have fresh victims, er...face at the door daily.

 

[Goofyernmost]

1. I'm not a kid.

2. It's possible the humor went over your head.

3. It's the Iraqi Information minister speaking to the press in 1991, telling them basically "there's nothing wrong... Everything is fine!" while bombs were literally going off a couple hundred yards behind him.

Sometimes comedy is hard. Don't feel bad. But the joke is ruined when it has to be explained. FYI.

But by all means... Take a swing at someone without having a clue. It's a good look for you!

It's not much of a high point if no one knows what it is either. 1991 was 25 years ago. Even if I saw the picture in 1991 I doubt I would have any recollection of it or it's significance. Know your audience.

 

[prberk]

Now, it seems like I remember that Disney was one of the first companies to voluntarily comply with the Affordable Care Act back when it was first being rolled out. Didn't they offer compliant healthcare almost right off the bat?

Do I remember that right?

And if so, (or even if not), as the healthcare costs for businesses have spiraled, has this been a major contributing factor to the bottom line at resorts? What I mean is, has it caused costs for full-time (or even almost full-time) people who qualify for benefits to rise?

Has Disney tried, as some businesses did, to keep people under 30 hours, so as not to have to provide health-care for them?

This is not political -- I just want to know if I remembered that right, and how they are treating it today, because healthcare itself in the service industry is usually one place that affects the hours and decisions businesses make. And it would seem to affect this one.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Do you think the average american even KNOWS Disney bought Marvel?, The stock price I expect Iger soon will want people to forget about that especially the ones who bought at 119!, The only lasting thing I think for Iger in the eyes of the public will be Star Wars.

You are probably way overestimating how much of the public even knows that Star Wars is owned by Disney now. They see the name on the film, but, that could be for any movie that they make, no one thinks about stuff like that or really cares that much, at least not in the numbers that have been to see the movie.

 

[Goofyernmost]

So are we going to be calling it DW one day?

Well, for all those Walt is always right folks... that is indeed what Walt called the place. Just simply Disney World. So the question must be should we do something like Walt would have done it... or do we make exceptions when it fits our desires.

 

[JohnWD]

Doom-and-gloomers feel passionately about WDW. By their very nature, their beliefs in Disney's old standards are so strong that anything that does not (in their eyes) measure up to those old standards represents yet another nail in WDW's coffin.

The New Fantasyland - "A couple of cheap meet & greets plus one of Disneyland's worst attractions."
FastPass+ - "The end of spontaneity."
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train - "It was supposed to be so much better."

None of these views are necessarily wrong but, ultimately, they are just opinions.

In this particular case, nothing good can be derived from reduced staff, reduced park hours, etc. No one can sanely suggest, "The water parks are opening 1 hour later and closing 1 hour earlier despite record crowds; that's great for Guests!"

If the doom-and-gloomers are finding any solace, it's that these cuts are so bad that no one can reasonably defend them.

For once, the doom-and-gloomers are unquestionably right.

It sounds like you have deep insight into Disney's business doings, along with a business acumen above anybody else - I will be following your every word for now on.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

It's not much of a high point if no one knows what it is either. 1991 was 25 years ago. Even if I saw the picture in 1991 I doubt I would have any recollection of it or it's significance. Know your audience.

Thanks, Leno.

I post stuff for those that get it... Not for the lowest common denominator. Sorry if that leaves you out.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Thanks, Leno.

I post stuff for those that get it... Not for the lowest common denominator. Sorry if that leaves you out.

Nice, you must be pretty lonely!

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Nice, you must be pretty lonely!

lol. Yep. You win. i see how you could get that from my post. Feel better?

I could share a series of knock knock jokes with you, but I feel it'd be too risky. Imma let you win.

Me and my room full of big fig friends think you're silly.