Cuts coming to every area of parks and resorts - thanks to Shanghai and Paris

peter11435

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Not too sure about this.
Someone mentioned in here in the forum that the bathroom staff was dispatched by a computer and not when needed.
This has nothing to do with that. Almost all cast in the parks are dispatched by computer and that will continue to be the case.
 

Phantom Mickey

Active Member
I want WDW to be around for a long, long time... so I'm good with some cuts here and there, to keep 'er running. However with that said, I think it's safe to say that we all have some key/basic expectations when we visit- given how expensive it is to do so. I have vacationed at WDW on property every year going on 11 years now and will be back again this May. I am <very> hopeful that these cuts aren't noticable.

WDW will be around, not sure who will be running it though.
Realizing that the ticket prices never stop raising, I stopped my yearly trips to the WORLD years ago. I think the last straw was when they ended the Ticket Passes that did not expire. That was the last straw. I am guessing my next visit will be for AVATAR and StarWars but they are too GREEDY for my tastes to go there on a yearly basis anymore. You can really tell Walt isn't running things.
 

TP2000

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My friend who works in MK just messaged me and told me that MK has removed their deployment department from all parks starting July 7th. Deployment deals with scheduling breaks and stuff, they said that their going to make their coordinators do it.

On another board it was mentioned that this is how Disneyland has done it for years and years, and WDW is being told to do things the Disneyland way now.

Don't forget, George K. was President of Disneyland before he was President of WDW, so he has contacts in Anaheim he can ask to learn how minor things like this are done to run the Anaheim parks.
 

Phantom Mickey

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The question now becomes how much of a "pass" will Disney fans give current operations because of Disney's own poor business decisions. This isn't like the gas crisis of the 70s, the 80's recession, the recession following the Iraq War, 9/11, or the financial crisis. Those things went beyond economic class, beyond nationality. The "big picture" said, "things beyond Disney's control warrant periods of time where Disney must operate differently." The Shanghai situation was entirely within Disney's control. The decision to starve Paris so that they could stage a takeover later but need serious capital investment, was entirely within Disney's control.

This is going to be more than just longer lines, shorter hours. This is going to add significant stress to the front line CMs. You would have thought that after experiencing the strain adding FP+ to all guests to the system affected both guest service (they suddenly needed an army to deal with them) and CM turnover someone would recognize how close to the breaking point they are. But that would require an awareness of WDW operations that we have known for awhile that Burbank does not have.

So I guess we're in for another summer of frustrated and stressed out guests, and forum peeps blaming the guests for "not doing their research" and making assumptions based on how WDW operated before proper business management saved the company from themselves, so of course their vacation was "less."

But since this is all a situation of Disney's own making, I look forward to seeing how Disney's competitors who aren't operating under these sort of restraints, react.

REALLY?

http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/disney-blunder/

http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Abandoned_By_Disney
 
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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon

Hmm, Two more just like River Country, Anyone have any doubts that Disney is perfectly happy to close the doors and walk away, And in the Indian Palace just like Disney the bloody lights are still on! Which amazes me because of Disney's legendary cheapness one would think that the FIRST thing Disney would do is cut the utilities.

Now I've never heard of either of these so these may be internet myths
 

Phantom Mickey

Active Member
In my experience all the restaurants used the "DisneyParks" branded drink napkins. The regular napkins were plain though. I wish they would just break away from the "DisneyParks" branding in general :(

The DISNEY BRANDING was considered a perk and was cheap advertising. With these penny pinchers running DIZZY you can forget about any small perks. I can understand a business making cuts. Walt Disney did too. BUT there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE. Walt would spare no expense when it came to entertaining and theming for the attractions. The Guests enjoyment was Number ONE. NOTHING ELSE was more important. It is documented that Walt would mortgage his house to get projects completed. I can bet you the board of money mongers and Iger won't mortgage THEIR houses for any project in the Disney Parks. Doesn't this sort of send a message folks?
 

asianway

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On another board it was mentioned that this is how Disneyland has done it for years and years, and WDW is being told to do things the Disneyland way now.

Don't forget, George K. was President of Disneyland before he was President of WDW, so he has contacts in Anaheim he can ask to learn how minor things like this are done to run the Anaheim parks.
Decentralizing functions like this and scheduling might go a long way to putting some human back in HR at the resort. This is a good thing
 

Matt_Black

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Hmm, Two more just like River Country, Anyone have any doubts that Disney is perfectly happy to close the doors and walk away, And in the Indian Palace just like Disney the bloody lights are still on! Which amazes me because of Disney's legendary cheapness one would think that the FIRST thing Disney would do is cut the utilities.

Now I've never heard of either of these so these may be internet myths

They are.
 

CircusPeanuts

Active Member
So the deployment thing...

Centralized deployment is more of a failed experiment that went on too long, rather than a cost cutting measure (although it will save some $$$). Back in the day (10 years ago or so...) leaders and coordinators would handle all the moves and adjustments in CDS as the day went on. You could do things on the fly, adjust labor and positions quickly as needed, etc. Then deployment came along... "touches" on CDS started to be tracked and if leaders/coordinators spent too much time adjusting positions instead of calling deployment they would have their hand lightly slapped. The logic being that you would then be freed to spend more time in the area focusing on your operation. The challenge is that deployment knew nothing about your specific operation and you ended up spending more time on the phone explaining to them what you wanted, than just doing it yourself. Some of their functions will also be replaced by an app that cast will be able to use to do schedule changes, call in, etc.

Overall this is actually a very good change.
 

YodaMan

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Also, it appears Disneyland has increased hours in July, and the Garden Grill is reopening.. So, are any cuts being changed at WDW as well?

Two shows of Fantasmic almost every night for the last two weeks of July compared to almost exclusively one-show evenings
 

natatomic

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Sorry for the low quality, but this was in the middle of the standby queue at pirates last week.
 

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Jo DeVil

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and the biggest problem with Disneyland Paris for me is that for us coming from the UK I still don't feel like I want to visit. Florida feels better value and has better weather.

They just made too many mistakes with the planning of that resort.

The food is really bad!
The French can't/won't queue.
It costs as much for flights from UK and 4 nights there, as it would for a fortnight in Orlando (on the cheap).
Most things are in French, All things should be in Disneyesse!
It opens late and closes early.
I still say I should have been built in the UK. We have several excellent theme parks, and the weather is the same as Paris.
So I agree I would rather travel to WDW and have for the last 9 years, and in that time I have only visited Disneyland Paris twice.
 

Disone

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This is myth. I am a platinum member of Disney Cruise Line and have been cruising with them since they debuted in 1998 with just the Disney Magic. They have never gone to this island. Disney's original private island is still there only Private Island, although there are rumors they have purchased a second one they are waiting to make that announcement until that give more details about the new ships.

Tides happen everywhere, so that story about the dredging that did not work because of Tides is just on of many parts if this story that does not pass the smell test.

Even if it was true, Disney Cruise Line could have gone to a tendering method which they have done at other ports rather than pulling up to the actual doc.

And finally while the article states that it was A 2 hour commute for the locals to get to, it also States the locals completely destroyed the island. So apparently they're too lazy to work there but they're not too lazy to go there to destroy it.

. Disney's current island is also un inhabited by any locals. There is a small Disney owned crew that remains on the island but for the most part the crew you see on the island is the same that you see on the ship. They literally get off the ship just before you do and go and work on the island so that you can enjoy it.
 
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Cesar R M

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The DISNEY BRANDING was considered a perk and was cheap advertising. With these penny pinchers running DIZZY you can forget about any small perks. I can understand a business making cuts. Walt Disney did too. BUT there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE. Walt would spare no expense when it came to entertaining and theming for the attractions. The Guests enjoyment was Number ONE. NOTHING ELSE was more important. It is documented that Walt would mortgage his house to get projects completed. I can bet you the board of money mongers and Iger won't mortgage THEIR houses for any project in the Disney Parks. Doesn't this sort of send a message folks?
I dont think Iger would even open his wallet.. ever.. for a project.
 

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