EPCOT Creations Shop opening this summer

[lazyboy97o]

While it’s good to see money finally being spent on EPCOT, I think you are conflating the money spent on the whole EPCOT renovation with the money spent to build the creations retail location.

Sure, money is being spent on the reimagining of EPCOT, but the money spent to create this new creations shop (boy what a bad name) has to be less than what they would have spent on a 2021 version of what we remember as Mouse Gear; The original Mouse Gear was so highly themed, it was almost an attraction itself.

By the way, you wanna see themed retail, go see the Universal tribute stores!!!! These tribute stores are so well done and so highly themed, you are pulled in just to see it.. Then you buy something

Pixar Pier cost more than Expedition Everest. So while the amount spent on props might be less, the money is there to do more. But also remember that minimalist design actually tends to cost a lot, especially if it is done well. An Apple Store in a mall is easily the most expensive one to build.

 

[TikibirdLand]

Pixar Pier cost more than Expedition Everest. So while the amount spent on props might be less, the money is there to do more. But also remember that minimalist design actually tends to cost a lot, especially if it is done well. An Apple Store in a mall is easily the most expensive one to build.

Sorry, not an architecture student... How is this possible? I'd seriously like to understand how this is possible...

 

[Poseidon Quest]

Pixar Pier cost more than Expedition Everest.

It cost less to put tunnels on a coaster and repaint some flat rides? How do you have this information?

 

[Splashin' Ryan]

Are you sure or are these educated guesses? I haven't heard anything in detail about revised plans.

Every single piece of concept art for the space over the past 5-6 years looks wildly different than the next. For example, the D23 concept art that was dark blue and circulated for years had a coaster and a maze and loads of fountains all in the center of EPCOT. Even being blue sky concept art, some of those ideas had to be solid plans at some point. Even now, the egg-shaped raised event center has been changed/cut/postponed from the plans. The plans have 100% changed over the years, we're just not sure what exactly it is that has changed.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sorry, not an architecture student... How is this possible? I'd seriously like to understand how this is possible...

The materials is a big one. Those tables and shelves aren’t laminated particleboard or MDF but actual solid wood. The tables themselves are also specially designed to conceal all of the cables and everything without obvious visible joints, drawers and panels. Actually building that requires a lot of skill and hard work to accomplish. All of that type work and material choice applies to everything else. The reason everything else isn’t that neat, precise and concealed is because bog standard products aren’t made that way because it is so expensive.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Pixar Pier cost more than Expedition Everest. So while the amount spent on props might be less, the money is there to do more. But also remember that minimalist design actually tends to cost a lot, especially if it is done well. An Apple Store in a mall is easily the most expensive one to build.

Wow, less theming that costs more. Well there it is. Disney is, as always, making good decisions and spending their shareholders money well. Great job Disney. Can’t wait to see this new Creations shop. Disney is also excellent in naming stuff too.

 

[James Alucobond]

Wow, less theming that costs more. Well there it is. Disney is, as always, making good decisions and spending their shareholders money well. Great job Disney. Can’t wait to see this new Creations shop. Disney is also excellent in naming stuff too.

I mean ... It will likely be immaculately themed for the type of architectural style it's trying to achieve. It might not be a style that resonates with many Disney fans as it focuses on materials and minimalist bespoke furnishings, but it's ultimately still being faithful to the source (which isn't Apple; they just popularized the trend in the public consciousness). Or do you mean that there will be minimal "Disney" theming? If so, I should think people would welcome the relief in a park being overtaken by IP.

 

[G00fyDad]

I mean ... It will likely be immaculately themed for the type of architectural style it's trying to achieve. It might not be a style that resonates with many Disney fans as it focuses on materials and minimalist bespoke furnishings, but it's ultimately still being faithful to the source (which isn't Apple; they just helped revive the trend). Or do you mean that there will be minimal "Disney" theming? If so, I should think people would welcome the relief in a park being overtaken by IP.

^^THIS^^

I see enough characters in the parks and I will see enough Disney stuff/characters on the shelves in this store. Do we have to have characters hanging from the ceiling too?

 

[HauntedPirate]

^^THIS^^

I see enough characters in the parks and I will see enough Disney stuff/characters on the shelves in this store. Do we have to have characters hanging from the ceiling too?

How else will you know “it’s Disney”? The rubes need constant reminders, you see, so The Bob’s are just looking to give them that gentle, reassuring reinforcement. And if they buy a bunch of overpriced crap to boot, that’s just a bonus.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I mean ... It will likely be immaculately themed for the type of architectural style it's trying to achieve. It might not be a style that resonates with many Disney fans as it focuses on materials and minimalist bespoke furnishings, but it's ultimately still being faithful to the source (which isn't Apple; they just popularized the trend in the public consciousness). Or do you mean that there will be minimal "Disney" theming? If so, I should think people would welcome the relief in a park being overtaken by IP.

To each their own, and as we know Disney will do what Disney will do no matter what any of us think.

Some will always think Disney made the right decision (or rationalize it is right), some will always think Disney made the wrong decisions.

I personally am all over the place; I loved Horizons, I also love Mission Space and wish we had both, I like Test track more than what it replaced; the world of Motion, but I liked the original Test Track better than today’s Tron version.

And in another plug for universal, I love their tribute stores, they are highly themed “attraction like retail” they change over time and seasons, and offer both merch and snacks. Very well done. They really hit on something there.

As for the Creations Shop, I am looking forward to it being completed; it will be a nice air conditioned space to get out of the heat and I will buy something. Disney wins again.

 

[aladdin2007]

^^THIS^^

I see enough characters in the parks and I will see enough Disney stuff/characters on the shelves in this store. Do we have to have characters hanging from the ceiling too?

I agree and wouldn't want that either, but it could at least have included well known epcot themes and icons, or something that at least felt like it was in a theme park and not disney springs. These things being drawn up by people out in California who know nothing about the parks in Florida or epcot itself is a problem. One individual in particular who clearly is clueless even though he states otherwise yet only knows how to dig up old concept art and spin it as justification or something new when it isn't, is just bad.

 

[G00fyDad]

I agree and wouldn't want that either, but it could at least have included well known epcot themes and icons, or something that at least felt like it was in a theme park and not disney springs. These things being drawn up by people out in California who know nothing about the parks in Florida or epcot itself is a problem. One individual in particular who clearly is clueless even though he states otherwise yet only knows how to dig up old concept art and spin it as justification or something new when it isn't, is just bad.

I understand you're frustration. If something that I expected or felt that way about suddenly disappeared and I'd be upset too. I just look at the renderings for the inside of that shop and I can't help but like it.

 

[The Great Gonzo]

They could have been more creative than to go with the name "Creation shop". I don't think they know what the theming for this section is.

 

[The Great Gonzo]

“Creations Shop” right next to “Food Place”

I doubt they'd be that creative with it.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

They could have been more creative than to go with the name "Creation shop". I don't think they know what the theming for this section is.

I was thinking "Bland Corporate Merchandise Location" might be a better fit for the name. I can definitely see a D23 announcement where Chapek stands up and announces that it'll be inspired by "absolutely nothing" and the crowds will cheer and clap.

 

[FigmentFan82]

when's the next Insta post?? I wanna know what type of hinges they're using on the doors!

 

[HauntedPirate]

when's the next Insta post?? I wanna know what type of hinges they're using on the doors!

It’s quite the process. First PR has to come up with a topic. Then they have to figure out how to make it fit with some project. Then they have to write the script, have The Zach on-site and posing for pictures with said topic, re-write the script a few times to have WDI provide a few fancy words plus make sure all the buzzwords are included and boxes are checked, get it approved my management, and then finally post it to The Zach’s Instagram profile.

 

[G00fyDad]

when's the next Insta post?? I wanna know what type of hinges they're using on the doors!

Apparently they will be bland and non-Disney themed.

 

[aladdin2007]

Apparently they will be bland and non-Disney themed.

probably on sale at Lowes or Home Depot

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Forgot to throw this up here last night. The thing looks complete from what's actually visible to the park now.


I guess it goes without saying that it missed the mark on that 7/1 opening.