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Could it be facts prove Star Wars is just not the draw is used to be?
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Bolt
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TSMM is actually a bit higher than that, with all 18 vehicles, it can run close to 1300, a normal average is 1100-1200. All variable in guest behavior unfortunately as you are only as fast at loading as the car in front of you at the station.
I would love to see SW Land! Of course, I'm a little biased with the topic of SW. Now that Disney owns SW, I can't see why they wouldn't do a SW expansion. It only makes since that they want to get a return on that $4 billion investment.
Plus, an expansion would help alleviate some of the crowd pressure from SWW. As much of a fan that I am of SW, I would never want to do SWW just because of the crowds. I fear it would just be too much.
I would love to see SW Land! Of course, I'm a little biased with the topic of SW. Now that Disney owns SW, I can't see why they wouldn't do a SW expansion. It only makes since that they want to get a return on that $4 billion investment.
Plus, an expansion would help alleviate some of the crowd pressure from SWW. As much of a fan that I am of SW, I would never want to do SWW just because of the crowds. I fear it would just be too much.
I will remain skeptical until the dirt starts to move. While I know that Disney wants to make back their 4 billion, there are much better ways to do it than investing even more cash into a theme park land. Granted, SWL seems like a no brainer to fix the woes of DHS, I just worry that the people writing the checks don't really see that much "woe" at DHS.
I agree. There seems to be some "buzz" and "rumors" around about it, but nothing official. Got my fingers crossed!
I can see Disney doing something along the lines of opening a SW addition at HS to coincide with a SW movie release. Movie tickets and park tickets would feed off one another? Maybe.
Jason21783
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I attended Star Wars Weekends for the first time this year and it was packed. Lines for Star Wars characters, merchandise and Star Tours were all insanely long, and tons of people were in costume. It's still a mega-draw and a Star Wars Land seems like a no-brainer.
Disneyhead'71
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I was at the Grand Opening of "Star Tours: The Adventure Continues" which occurred during a Star Wars Weekend. The Standby queue was at 30 mins around noon. I rode it 4 times.
While I don't doubt that Star Wars is a popular IP with a large fan base, I have a major question concerning bringing more content to the parks.
1. How interested in theme park attractions is this big fan base?
While I don't doubt that Star Wars is a popular IP with a large fan base, I have a major question concerning bringing more content to the parks.
1. How interested in theme park attractions is this big fan base?
I would think there would be a great interest just based on SWW alone. Plus the fact that everything released from this point forward with SW on it will also have Disney's name attached to it.
The SW prequels and The Clone Wars cartoons have already created the next generation of SW fans. The kids of today will be bringing their kids to Disney parks in the future.
btw, love that line in your sig. lol
Since1976
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STAR WARS is as popular as ever, and will only get more popular in the coming years, but STAR TOURS, even with its fantastic upgrade, is still a small-scale attraction compared to the "real" thrills of ToT and RnRC. Simulators simply are not a big deal anymore, as you can ride them at your local mall now. It did not help that the attraction exterior was only changed slightly with the 2.0 refurbishment, so even people walking by the building for the first time in years may be unaware that something new is inside.
Disney is aware that they did a poor job of marketing the upgrade, such that they've been handing out little postcards advertising the ride at their gift shops.
The fanbase is huge and hungry for more experiences. They're older and they have kids and teens of their own. And right now, these fans don't have a place to play. STAR WARS needs a bigger, more elaborate footprint than just one attraction. It needs something real that guests can walk through, ride through, smell, taste and touch. STAR WARS is a world, a galaxy, not a corner outpost as it is represented now.
Disney is aware that they did a poor job of marketing the upgrade, such that they've been handing out little postcards advertising the ride at their gift shops.
The fanbase is huge and hungry for more experiences. They're older and they have kids and teens of their own. And right now, these fans don't have a place to play. STAR WARS needs a bigger, more elaborate footprint than just one attraction. It needs something real that guests can walk through, ride through, smell, taste and touch. STAR WARS is a world, a galaxy, not a corner outpost as it is represented now.
I disagree about ST2.0 as it was a big jump going from 2D to 3D. Plus the fact that there are many different scenes that make the ride experience different each time. Last year we rode it 12 times and only once did the ride scenes repeat. I think that the simulator is perfect due to the way it makes you feel as though your are actually flying in the Star Speeder 3000. JMO.
I do agree that the upgrade has suffered from poor marketing. As you said, not much was done to the outside. I would have loved to see the AT-AT move! I could see it now. The AT-AT head moving back and forth along with the front leg that's already in the up position suddenly move down and touch the ground as though it were crushing a Snow Speeder...with sound effects! Maybe add some animatronic Ewoks to the Endor scene outside?
I hope they'll add tons of SW stuff. Hollywood Studios is already my fav park. Any SW additions would be icing on the cake!
DisneyWall-E
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I am broke as a joke and if WDW opened a Star Wars land next week I would call in sick to work, sleep in my car and eat nothing but peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for breakfast, lunch, and dinner when I went.
Disneyhead'71
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Never mind. Too easy.
DisneyWall-E
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No go ahead. I insist.
Darth Tater
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Don't be too worried of this technological simulator DHS has constructed. The ability to keep lines short is insignificant next to the power of the franchise.
p.s. I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Since1976
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Throngs already do go to Disney just for STAR WARS. Three words: STAR WARS WEEKENDS.
I can think of few other properties -- Disney or not -- as deserving of and creatively suited to a full-blown Wizarding World-style land as STAR WARS. And the franchise has an advantage that Potter does not: STAR WARS endures through TV, comics, video games, and, of course, new movies.
Could STAR WARS fever die out in 20 years? Sure. But so could Potter-mania. That's no reason to not give fans of today what they are clamoring for now.
Disneyhead'71
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And I like how people keep saying that Potter has nothing new coming so it's a dead franchise. I guess they are forgetting about a close to $600 Million theme park land next year.
While is does have multiple theme park additions coming down the pipeline, the franchise itself has nothing new coming as far as we know. No more books, no more movies. We have the existing movies and books and that is it. Sure that could change, but that is a big maybe.
Star Wars on the other hand is already beyond huge and is only getting bigger. Star Wars has 6 movies, a multi-season TV show in the can and at least one more on the way. The number of novels is in the 3 digit range, more movies are on the horizon and it has a merchandise line that rivals the GNP of some countries.
HP is an incredible franchise, but it will eventually wane in popularity if noting new is added.