Could it be facts prove Star Wars is just not the draw is used to be?

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
Out of curiosity: why?
Or is it just nostalgia?

I preferred the old ride too, for two reasons:

1. No CGI. Practical effects and miniatures always make me happier, especially when they're as impressive as those were.

2. Other than the Death Star run and R2D2 being there, everything in Star Tours was original content. You didn't visit scenes and areas from the movies, you saw new people and went new places. This not only made the experience more unique but also suggested that the Star Wars "universe" as it were was a larger, more "real" place- at least large enough that you weren't bumping into the same characters that were important in the movies.

3. It was a reminder of when Star Wars movies were actually good.
 

disney4life2008

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Out of curiosity: why?
Or is it just nostalgia?

I just like the woman on the monitor with the bun to head. Someone who posts here had/has a picture of her as their profile pic, lol. But I am not a fan of Star Wars or the ride. To me its just a simulator but I will ride it if the wait is less than 15 mins.
 

MY_NAME_STITCH

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Here's a fact that you can draw your own conclusions. My DW and I were at HS during the opening Star Wars weekend and wait times were less than 30 minutes. Everything else was jammed. JMO but that doesn't seem like a high demand attraction.
 

bgraham34

Well-Known Member
I preferred the old ride too, for two reasons:

1. No CGI. Practical effects and miniatures always make me happier, especially when they're as impressive as those were.

2. Other than the Death Star run and R2D2 being there, everything in Star Tours was original content. You didn't visit scenes and areas from the movies, you saw new people and went new places. This not only made the experience more unique but also suggested that the Star Wars "universe" as it were was a larger, more "real" place- at least large enough that you weren't bumping into the same characters that were important in the movies.

3. It was a reminder of when Star Wars movies were actually good.



See now I did not like the old one and did not ride it for severals years. The new one I want to ride on every trip. The motion is better synced to the image as opposed to the old one which benefits me as well.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Here's a fact that you can draw your own conclusions. My DW and I were at HS during the opening Star Wars weekend and wait times were less than 30 minutes. Everything else was jammed. JMO but that doesn't seem like a high demand attraction.

It has been said a million times, but it bears repeating. Wait time only indicates that demand has exceeded capacity. A line that would stretch and hour plus on RnRC might only take half an hour to process on ST. A half hour line on ST could probably be run through in 10-15 minutes on SSE.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Could it be facts prove Star Wars is just not the draw is used to be?

When to Hollywood Studios trice last week.

Ride lengths
"Toy Story Mania" 1 1/2 to 2 hours
"Tower of Terror", "Rock and Roll Roller Coaster" over and hour.
"The Great Movie Ride" about 30 minutes

Blacklot Tour, Muppets filling up.
All the shows (except America has Talent) were packed

So it Star Wars still has the draw why basically could II walk in both day?
The line says 10 to 15 not queues .... just board an watch the next show.

The thing I notices between DLP's Star Tours and DHS's was that the capacity on DLP's was much smaller. There were 4 speeders instead of 6 and each of the speeders had fewer rows. The high capacity of Star Tours in DHS allows the line to move along quickly. With the smaller capacity in DLP, I never saw the wait below 30 minutes and the show was always packed. With new fans such as myself I don't believe it has at all lost it's appeal, but rather that the attraction's size allows for a large number of visitors to experience it. Which is a good thing.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
Paris has Star Tours too.

Too, not two. Like Anaheim, it is located in 'Tomorrowland', has only four simulators, and in the crowded castle park. As a result, Paris' ST always has long waits.
(Lines which only seem to get longer at night, when the evening crowd for the Space Mountain + ST combo flies out of their bat caves)

Star Wars is still a global phenomenon!

Also, I just rode ST 1 last week. It was fun, but it shows the power of (false) nostalgia. It's great that DHS has moved on from ST1. Having gotten used to ST2, ST1 now totally felt tired and old. ST1 has its moments, and I've got fond memories of it, but ST2 is the superior experience.
 

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
Star Wars is about to explode again when the new movies start to roll out. Disney and Star Wars fans (yes not all) will line up and go all Harry Potterish for a new Star Wars Land.

That didn't happen when Phantom Menace came out.
Why would it happen this time?
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
Actually it did but then people saw the quality (or lack thereof) of the PM and it all went downhill from there. This time you have a huge director (JJ Abrams) and a massive plan by Disney to keep the Star Wars machine rolling with new trilogies, stand alone movies, tv shows, etc. If it is done right it will be massive. If it's done wrong then strike everything I've said.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Star Wars is about to explode again when the new movies start to roll out. Disney and Star Wars fans (yes not all) will line up and go all Harry Potterish for a new Star Wars Land.

Here is what Star Wars fans will do:
Complain about the new movie until it is released
Go see the movie, making it millions of dollars.
And...still complain.

Yes, I am in that group.;)
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
The resurgence of Star Wars popularity because of the prequels is one of the reasons SWW even exists. Many might not like Ep 1-3, but they have played a huge role in bringing a once dying empire back to the forefront.

Exactly. So many of the terms commonly associated with Star Wars, (Darth Maul, Padawan, Youngling, Queen Amidala) are from the prequels, even though most SW fans complain about the prequels.

For the record, they weren't bad movies, they were bad Star Wars movies.
 

Tom Morrow

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I don't understand why some of you even need convincing that Star Wars is popular. Its as big as it's ever been. I pretty much can't go a day without seeing some sort of Star Wars joke on the Facebook news feed.

Another reason Star Tours has short waits besides having a high capacity is that its low on the Fastpass priority tier for DHS. With everyone grabbing Fastpasses for TSMM, RnRc, and ToT, there is much less Fastpass demand on Star Tours. Less Fastpass demand = much shorter and faster standby lines.
2. Other than the Death Star run and R2D2 being there, everything in Star Tours was original content. You didn't visit scenes and areas from the movies, you saw new people and went new places. This not only made the experience more unique but also suggested that the Star Wars "universe" as it were was a larger, more "real" place- at least large enough that you weren't bumping into the same characters that were important in the movies.
The only location you saw that wasn't in the movies other than the space port was... comets.
 

FettFan

Well-Known Member
Could it be facts prove Star Wars is just not the draw is used to be?

When to Hollywood Studios trice last week.

Ride lengths
"Toy Story Mania" 1 1/2 to 2 hours
"Tower of Terror", "Rock and Roll Roller Coaster" over and hour.
"The Great Movie Ride" about 30 minutes

Blacklot Tour, Muppets filling up.
All the shows (except America has Talent) were packed

So it Star Wars still has the draw why basically could II walk in both day?
The line says 10 to 15 not queues .... just board an watch the next show.

Nope. Star Wars is still hugely popular.

Try ride capacity.

TSMM can cycle through 900 guests per hour....but Star Tours cycles through nearly three times that number at an estimated 2400 guests per hour.
 

FettFan

Well-Known Member
Exactly. So many of the terms commonly associated with Star Wars, (Darth Maul, Padawan, Youngling, Queen Amidala) are from the prequels, even though most SW fans complain about the prequels.

For the record, they weren't bad movies, they were bad Star Wars movies.

No, they were bad movies in general. The guys at Red Letter Media objectively proved it, citing everything from the lack of a proper protagonist in Phantom Menace to the silly stunt-casting of Samuel L. Jackson.
 

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