Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[LaughingGravy]

If they try to mandate vaccines for teachers and police we are going to be in hard times. We won’t have many teachers or police left in many parts of the country!

There will be those willing to vaccinate and take those jobs without a problem.

 

[Roy G. Dis]

Teachers will do it in Chicago. Find it hard to see CPD all getting vaccinated though. Those guys were barely wearing masks in 2020.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

May I ask if you live in an area with a low vaccination rate? People I personally know and love are being put at real risk because of the mentality you discuss. Do I think we can have national vaccine mandate? No. And really, 6 months ago I was naive enough to believe we would get to 80% quickly once the vaccine was widely available. That hasn’t happened. There are quite literally ZERO icu beds left in my state. For any illness, injury, surgery, etc. None. So what do you propose we do since getting a shot for the greater good isn’t on the table? This is an actual crisis and as much as I hear people fear losing freedoms - i have yet to hear a freaking alternative that is realistic in this situation. Kids are getting sick here because the adults chose freedom. My physician friends are literally begging people to help and they won’t. So rather than debate the constitutional and political ideologies WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

…just Florida.

always “leading”….backwards

 

[Chomama]

…just Florida.

always “leading”….backwards

I agree largely with your commentary but this isn’t a joke. I can’t up and move my family and we are essentially at the mercy of the “my freedoms” people. As a parent it is hard not to just cry and hope they come
Home okay every day

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I agree largely with your commentary but this isn’t a joke. I can’t up and move my family and we are essentially at the mercy of the “my freedoms” people. As a parent it is hard not to just cry and hope they come
Home okay every day

I did my time there…sarcasm aside I do understand the difficulty when a public is so easily distracted from what their self interests are…it’s scream out loud frustrating

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Teachers will do it in Chicago. Find it hard to see CPD all getting vaccinated though. Those guys were barely wearing masks in 2020.

Plenty of openings at Starbucks

 

[LaughingGravy]

May I ask if you live in an area with a low vaccination rate? People I personally know and love are being put at real risk because of the mentality you discuss. Do I think we can have national vaccine mandate? No. And really, 6 months ago I was naive enough to believe we would get to 80% quickly once the vaccine was widely available. That hasn’t happened. There are quite literally ZERO icu beds left in my state. For any illness, injury, surgery, etc. None. So what do you propose we do since getting a shot for the greater good isn’t on the table? This is an actual crisis and as much as I hear people fear losing freedoms - i have yet to hear a freaking alternative that is realistic in this situation. Kids are getting sick here because the adults chose freedom. My physician friends are literally begging people to help and they won’t. So rather than debate the constitutional and political ideologies WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

We will simply have a lot of dead family members of adults and the adults themselves who refuse the vaccination and pass that "rule of law" of "freedom" within the family to their kids, and unfortunately to other people who will be innocent along the way, as in without choice. It's a pandemic with variants growing more contagious and deadly. It's gonna be tough.
During the great dustbowl, families uprooted and moved. That may be the best solution for some. Move to areas of like minded people who believe in the vaccinations and masks, the science, logic and real world results behind them, and don't believe the "others", whatever you want to call them. Some can do this. Others are stuck, but at least if you're vaccinated, you'll be the last ones standing.
Stupid is gonna really hurt really soon. And yes, I mean stupid at this point....banning mask mandates and then getting covid.
I really do feel for the people who are stuck. They are the true victims. If it's a matter of life and death and you feel that it is, what are you willing to do? There's been talk that freedom is not free.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

And by the way @Chomama …I too blindly hoped that we’d get this to 70% easily…especially after the insanity of October-February subsided…

and I was wrong…and I’ve never been accused of being an optimist.

 

[Virtual Toad]

I agree largely with your commentary but this isn’t a joke. I can’t up and move my family and we are essentially at the mercy of the “my freedoms” people. As a parent it is hard not to just cry and hope they come
Home okay every day

Right there with you. I still believe for every stubborn holdout there are parents out there committed to doing the right thing and teaching their kids to do the same. Even here, even now. Hang in there.

 

[LaughingGravy]

Right there with you. I still believe for every stubborn holdout there are parents out there committed to doing the right thing and teaching their kids to do the same. Even here, even now. Hang in there.

I'm really hoping the FDA approval will be very soon and that those who were holding off waiting for that do not hesitate in the slightest to get vaccinated. I hope they call out sick if they need to. If the excuse is they can't afford to call out sick, that means their life is not worth a days pay. Harsh, but this is serious.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I'm really hoping the FDA approval will be very soon and that those who were holding off waiting for that do not hesitate in the slightest to get vaccinated. I hope they call out sick if they need to. If the excuse is they can't afford to call out sick, that means their life is not worth a days pay. Harsh, but this is serious.

They will get paid, and the government will reimburse their employer.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm really hoping the FDA approval will be very soon and that those who were holding off waiting for that do not hesitate in the slightest to get vaccinated. I hope they call out sick if they need to. If the excuse is they can't afford to call out sick, that means their life is not worth a days pay. Harsh, but this is serious.

I think that’s a big red herring argument being pushed

“Waiting for approval”

if you look at the scatter plots…how many in the red (zones…not states) would have any clue what “full fda approval” means…how to find it…or what “fda” stands for???

…if we’re honest.

that’s a pundit float point for about the last month

 

[Chomama]

Well…hubby is closing the office down again. It is too inefficient and expensive to keep having people and/or their kids in quarantine. Back to virtual we go. Yet school is open

 

[LaughingGravy]

They will get paid, and the government will reimburse their employer.

There are a lot of jerk employers out there who make it difficult for their employees, independent of the laws. I am pretty sure there are "freedom loving" bosses in tiny companies who would fire their employees for "other reasons not related to your vaccination day off" if they found out. For many, good luck fighting that. Many don't have the time or money to deal with it. A quiet sick day or two if necessary will do the job on the QT. It's unfortunate that some need to do so, but that is reality for some.

 

[LaughingGravy]

I think that’s a big red herring argument being pushed

“Waiting for approval”

if you look at the scatter plots…how many in the red (zones…not states) would have any clue what “full fda approval” means…how to find it…or what “fda” stands for???

…if we’re honest.

that’s a pundit float point for about the last month

I'm optimistic. .... a little tiny bit. The rest of me is sick, angry, sad, and disappointed. But, grateful we live where we live and are able to be as safe as possible with the best hospitals 10 minutes away and that my entire family is vaccinated with Pfizer or Moderna.
It's been scary and it still is, but I've certainly been sleeping better since being immunized. But like others here, when going out, I still act and practice as if I am not vaccinated since this Delta took a quick acceleration. Masks are the norm here in all but restaurants.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Are you serious? Colleges graduate teachers at a rate of about 20 to every 1 job…we’d be fine if people want to rely on the witch doctor and/or their favorite comic book

That may be graduation rates, and yet there’s still a massive nationwide teacher shortage. Because they don’t stay in the profession. On top of that, Covid has escalated how many are leaving.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That may be graduation rates, and yet there’s still a massive nationwide teacher shortage. Because they don’t stay in the profession. On top of that, Covid has escalated how many are leaving.

Granted…

I was more rejecting the notion that people would leave those two professions specifically because of vaccines which help themselves and everyone. Not in dispute.

many have left due to the covid situation…and I understand that as well.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Granted…

I was more rejecting the notion that people would leave those two professions specifically because of vaccines which help themselves and everyone. Not in dispute.

many have left due to the covid situation…and I understand that as well.

I’m certain many police offers will / would.
Teachers in my area would... I can’t speak for all areas.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m certain many police offers will / would.
Teachers in my area would... I can’t speak for all areas.

Area?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Area?

A very red southern state. I keep trying to make my escape!