Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[disneygeek90]

I find it puzzling that everyone is rushing to re-open indoor dining, just as we enter Spring and it becomes more comfortable to dine outdoors.

Except of course in Florida where we're starting to see highs touch 90. The winter was a great time to sit outdoors here most days.

 

[danlb_2000]

But even positive test case statistics are normally lower for children, showing they are less susceptible to catching it in the first place.

Another recent study showing that we may be significantly undercounting infections in children...

Estimated SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence Among Persons Aged ...​

This report describes trends in SARS-CoV-2 antibody

www.cdc.gov

 

[havoc315]

Probably not a popular opinion here but the fact that indoor dining isn't available in some states is still baffling to me. At some point, we have to give people a choice, especially if they have been vaccinated. Numbers are trending the right way in most states.

I don’t know of any state where indoor dining is unavailable statewide.

 

[disneygeek90]

I don’t know of any state where indoor dining is unavailable statewide.

I actually work for a restaurant company and can tell you. As of now, there are only 4 counties in CA that appear to still be limiting to togo/outdoor only. Fresno, Kern, Stanislaus and San Joaquin.

Contrary to January, when there were about a dozen states that had full or partial closures.

 

[havoc315]

I actually work for a restaurant company and can tell you. As of now, there are only 4 counties in CA that appear to still be limiting to togo/outdoor only. Fresno, Kern, Stanislaus and San Joaquin.

Contrary to January, when there were about a dozen states that had full or partial closures.

Thanks. That’s what I thought.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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Mitigation measures aren't just based on science. They have to be both effective and reasonable, and what is considered reasonable depends on factors that are often social, business-related or political (in the general sense) in nature.

Businesses like airlines and restaurants do what they are able within the confines of their particular business needs. The reasonableness of a measure is judged in light of the amount of good it actually does. People on planes need to sit close together; at one point, the airlines were blocking middle seats, but the amount of good that was doing in such close quarters led that practice to be abandoned. Table service restaurants by their nature will have people indoors for a significant length of time without wearing masks. People seem to be okay with wearing masks entering and leaving, but the idea of asking them to put on masks between bites was rejected because it would not provide enough added protection to justify the downsides of the practice (fewer customers).

People differ immensely in balancing reasonableness with effectiveness, which is what we're seeing in many of these arguments. When people had no way to protect themselves from the virus, they were willing to accept a high level of restrictions as reasonable. This is going to change as more people are vaccinated. People are going to look more critically at restrictions, asking not whether they do anything at all, but how much they are actually helping.

“Reasobable” is not a factor of science. Practical implementation is affected by thar.

but you know where I stand...I’m tired of hearing about the low “tolerance” of people to do what they’re told.

 

[ABQ]

Another recent study showing that we may be significantly undercounting infections in children...

Estimated SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence Among Persons Aged ...​

This report describes trends in SARS-CoV-2 antibody

www.cdc.gov

I think they've been thinking the same about all cases, not just children though.

COVID-19 infections in the U.S. nearly three times greater than reported, model estimates

World health experts have long suspected that the incidence of COVID-19 has been higher than reported.

www.utsouthwestern.edu

 

[_caleb]

Other people look at me funny when I use the term "rope drop" for real-life situations.

Oh, we “rope drop” things all the time! The bank, a movie in theaters, even a restaurant (pre-pandemic, or course)!

 

[zurj]

I find it puzzling that everyone is rushing to re-open indoor dining, just as we enter Spring and it becomes more comfortable to dine outdoors.

Being closed down for a year, and wanting to re-open is "rushing"?

 

[Figgy1]

I usually buy potatoes 20 pounds at a time

@GimpYancIent anybody who laughs at my food bill is welcome to it

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Kids are at practically zero risk from COVID. If the adult population is 70% vaccinated they will be at even lower risk because there will be far fewer infected adults to potentially infect the kids.

Mitigation measures should not continue just because kids can't be vaccinated.

they will...because kids can carry it.

jesus H...it’s been a year, dude.
It’s not just about body count...it’s about who you can vector it too.

 

[havoc315]

Being closed down for a year, and wanting to re-open is "rushing"?

Most states re-opened indoor dining long ago. But my point about “rushing” is the timing.

Many states that are expanding indoor dining are facing surges of new cases, at the exact same time as it’s becoming comfortable to have outdoor dining.
So why not wait another 6 weeks to go to 100% indoor dining capacity, if cases and hospitalizations are surging upwards AND it’s a perfect time for outdoor dining?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Increased vaccinations sounds great...

...unless it means not enough people are taking them?

 

[Figgy1]

they will...because kids can carry it.

jesus H...it’s been a year, dude.
It’s not just about body count...it’s about who you can vector it too.

Not to mention every case is a chance for a mutation, long hauler etc..

 

[GimpYancIent]

@GimpYancIent anybody who laughs at my food bill is welcome to it

You enjoy! Calories are our friends. Oh, hey! I like potatoes too.

 

[Figgy1]

You enjoy! Calories are our friends. Oh, hey! I like potatoes too.

Teen males in my house

 

[tallica]

Are Disney World guests happier at the parks during the pandemic? Company CEO says yes​

Are Disney World guests happier at parks during pandemic? Company CEO says yes

Disney CEO Bob Chapek made some bold statements. People are happier at Disney World parks now — during a time when visitors must wear masks and can’t get the full experience — tha…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[correcaminos]

Are Disney World guests happier at the parks during the pandemic? Company CEO says yes​

Are Disney World guests happier at parks during pandemic? Company CEO says yes

Disney CEO Bob Chapek made some bold statements. People are happier at Disney World parks now — during a time when visitors must wear masks and can’t get the full experience — tha…

www.orlandosentinel.com

Do I even have to click on this article? I mean for real would they say otherwise? Much like our school who says "kids are thriving" when they want to do one thing and "Kids are struggling" when they want another.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Do I even have to click on this article? I mean for real would they say otherwise? Much like our school who says "kids are thriving" when they want to do one thing and "Kids are struggling" when they want another.

The words "sample bias" come to my mind. The type of people who would likely visit a Disney park during a pandemic likely aren't those with a casual interest.