Thank goodness neither will probably happen. We might as well wipe our butts with the constitution if our government mandated something like that.
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DC0703
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We saw our family a few times last summer when we are were able to sit outside and social distance. I care about my parents, family, and friends too much to risk giving them COVID, especially since many of them have pre-existing conditions. Almost all of my family and friends were also avoiding indoor get-togethers during the winter, so I haven't seen many of them since last September (outside of Zoom calls).
DisneyCane
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As of this report, more people have officially completed a vaccine series in FL than there are documented cases of COVID-19 in FL (1,948,307). With the number who complete the series being many more per day than the current daily new cases, this should never be untrue again!
dolbyman
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Private property is included in the constitution ?
Even though I am not american I would gladly carry around one of Penn&Tellers stainless constitutions (or was it bill of rights?) with me if i can enter club33 then .. freeeedddoooommm
You must of read over this part of my comment " if our goverment mandated something like that". Disney is free to do whatever they want but I doubt they will be asking for proof of vaccine. I am sure there is some legal loophole that would open them up to lawsuits if they did.
TrainsOfDisney
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Bill of Rights. If you want the official one...
https://www.pennandtellerstore.com/p-t-tsa-bill-of-rights-card/
GoofGoof
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PA is doing smokers now too as part of the high risk group. You don’t need to provide any proof you smoke but in some places they make you sign an attestation statement if you claim a high risk medical condition. I believe most of the pharmacies that do online appointments just do it as part of your registration process where you select a condition that qualifies you and that is stored in your profile. I know of no plans to validate or check if someone is lying. It’s the honor system.
Heppenheimer
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My closest relative lives 3 hours away. The rest of my family lives a days drive away in Pennsylvania. My wife's family lives a similar distance away in Canada or a trans-Atlantic flight away in Germany. So, there's no way we'd risk that kind of travel for family visits, even if it was possible.
My cousins in PA had a get-together with their side of the family over Christmas. Several tested positive, two ended up in the hospital and one extended contact died.
oceanbreeze77
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We have mainly done outside birthdays (only immediate family) and sat at completely opposite corners of the backyard. Ive seen my family indoors, but after a strict three week quarantine, just to be completely safe. No hugging, kissing, etc except for at the holidays, which we all did a strict quarantine for.
My relatives on the other hand, did not "allow the c**** virus to run their lives" and 5 of them got really sick and my cousin almost ended up on a ventilator.
Let alone outside of your government.
I am not sure, but as a shareholder, I sure hope they dont issue self imposed market reduction.
Something to keep an eye on, the NYC area has now plateaued in case numbers, it’s the only area of the US where that’s happening. It suggests there might be a varient surge starting there. NY and NJ have the highest amount of new cases per capita in the country.
Actually I think the study said that with the vaccine yes, you could contract covid-19 but that in the studies 100% of people did not experience severe symptoms. So yes, what you said is true, you may still get it but it’s 100% sure you won’t get a severe case.
SoFloMagic
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Thought I'd come back to this thread for a bit, then saw this. But just because I'm here, I'll bite:
Wasn't it also illegal to go to paegan potlucks and atheist book club meetings? And wasn't it legal to worship over zoom or in small groups in private homes or outdoors while masked?
It wasn't the religion part that was illegal, it was the behavior against the advice of public health officials part.
People don't get to act in the disinterest of society in general. That's why we have speeding tickets. And public nudity laws, and anti-littering laws, and parking tickets, and a whole load of other stuff.
I understand thinking that regulations were pushed too far and that it's a balance between restrictions and liberties - that's why schools are open. But argue about balance in restrictions rather than downplay the deaths.
500k people died and you're complaining that you have to do zoom church. Jesus.
From my understanding disney will continue their mask mandates until 2022
I haven’t seen my mom in a year- (minus 2 masked visits in the driveway for 20 min). I haven’t seen my brother since Christmas of 2019, my cousin has visited in the drive way twice, my son hasn’t seen his friends since February 2020... it wasn’t worth it for us to get someone sick or vice versa
Chomama
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I have not seen my parents (70) since last February. They live in another state so travel to see them was too risky. We didn’t want to pick it up on our travels and bring it to them. We have 4 kids so keeping them safe has been a full time job and if they got their grandparents sick they would feel terribly.
Tom P.
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Actually, no, you're wrong and @CaptainAmerica is correct. There are several places in the country, including New York and California, where religious services were specifically targeted with restrictions that were significantly more harsh than any other type of gathering. This has resulted in multiple lawsuits and several cases going all the way to the Supreme Court. In at least two instances that I am aware of, the Supreme Court has already issued injunctions requiring the jurisdictions to allow religious services to resume because religious institutions were being unfairly discriminated against. When churches are closed but strip clubs are open -- which has been the case in many jurisdictions -- then, yes, it's the religious content and not the behavior that is being discriminated against.
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Tom P.
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I really think that when Chapek said masks would continue throughout 2021, he was providing the least optimistic scenario so as to manage the expectations of people who book trips now. They don't want a ton of people booking trips for the fall now, expecting that masks will be gone, and then cancel later when masks are still required.
However, I believe Disney will look carefully at what's happening in the country and will adjust accordingly. If enough people get vaccinated that case numbers are low enough for society as a whole to be doing away with masks in most situations, Disney will do away with them too. I think Disney really hopes to be rid of masks in time for the 50th anniversary.
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Kevin_W
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Pretty much. I've seem my parents and in-laws at outdoor, masked gatherings a few times when it wasn't brutally cold and in the garage at Christmas. But it's been nothing like normal. Usually I see my wife's extended family (lots of aunts/uncles/cousins) 3-4 times a year and I haven't seen any of them since Christmas 2019.
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