Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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DVCakaCarlF said:
The only time I have ever seen the need for police is on New Year’s Eve at Crescent Lake...other than that, never.
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I’ve seen it at the ttc and at the Main Street Starbucks on normal days. Once 2 families start fighting it’s all over. (Both were verbal yelling fights not physical).

Also seen it on New Year’s Eve but that’s natural lol.
 
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legwand77

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InnKpr said:
When it happens to him personally. As long as he is not laying in a hospital bed with the virus, it's all overblown.
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Ha, no not quite, but some posters really have fun creating scenerios and projecting something outrageous but quite different what I have actually posted etc. :) Nothing new.
 
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legwand77

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There is a whole science to hospital capacity, plenty of articles on the internet to make your own decision. Also many states report it and show historical levels etc.
 
Heppenheimer

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ppete1975 said:
im hoping its peer pressure, if everyone you see is wearing them and if someone takes theirs off they are swiftly reminded that by going on private property they agreed to wear it, then hopefully you will have everyone follow. Adults are no different than children. We see what we can get away with. Let me not cover my nose.... nobody said anything... let me take it off... nobody said anything....im not going to wear it now. The person next to him sees him not wearing his and nobody cares, then why should he.
What we need is better peer pressure, people need to speak up if someone is in your 6 foot bubble, or if you see someone not wearing a mask and everyone else is, politely remind them. People in general dont like peer pressure and will fall in line.
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That's basically what it's like to live in Germany. There is very intense peer pressure to follow the rules. Which I learned when I tried to mow my lawn on a Sunday...
 
BrianLo

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TrainChasers said:
When are things bad? When 50% of the states hospitals are at capacity? Or 100%?
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You won't ever get a commitment, because then when that measure is inevitably surpassed it can't be walked back. Better to simply set no criteria at all and start making excuses for the fallout. This is not directed at posters here, this is really directed broadly that the US has been unbelievably incapable of following a single rule they set, so now we are watching the no rules phase.

After Hospitilizations and Deaths inevitably increase over the next few weeks, we'll circle fully back around to "Gee great, everyone has COVID now, so no big deal, it's over. Herd immunity, hurrah".
 
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legwand77

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BrianLo said:
You won't ever get a commitment, because then when that measure is inevitably surpassed it can't be walked back. Better to simply set no criteria at all and start making excuses for the fallout. This is not directed at posters here, this is really directed broadly that the US has been unbelievably incapable of following a single rule they set, so now we are watching the no rules phase.

After Hospitilizations and Deaths inevitably increase over the next few weeks, we'll circle fully back around to "Gee great, everyone has COVID now, so no big deal, it's over. Herd immunity, hurrah".
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The goal/commitment was to flatten the curve so the hospitals would not be overrun, I think it is universally proven that happened. Hospitals weren't and are not currently being overrun either, no matter the panic tweets, hospital capacity in the Florida hotspot county Miami Dade is mid 70% non ICU and 67% ICU, the county the Homestead hospital is in.

"After Hospitilizations and Deaths inevitably increase over the next few weeks" - that is not inevitavble, might happen but currently is not the case and not trending that way either, but keeping a watch on it.

Oh and btw Homestead hospital is no longer at capacity as of this post, they have 12 beds available. ICU is still full.
 
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lazyboy97o

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legwand77 said:
The goal/commitment was to flatten the curve so the hospitals would not be overrun, I think it is universally proven that happened. Hospitals weren't and are not currently being overrun either, no matter the panic tweets, hospital capacity in the Florida hotspot county Miami Dade is mid 70% non ICU and 67% ICU, the county the Homestead hospital is in.

"After Hospitilizations and Deaths inevitably increase over the next few weeks" - that is not inevitavble, might happen but currently is not the case and not trending that way either, but keeping a watch on it.

Oh and btw Homestead hospital is no longer at capacity as of this post, they have 12 beds available. ICU is still full.
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So the US set out to be the worst at flattening the curve? Why couldn’t we flatten and reduce like other places? But do keep telling the doctor he is clueless.
 
Rimmit

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legwand77 said:
again it happens practically every day.
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This completely accurate. Having worked in over 12 different hospitals in my career in 3 different states, this is a relatively common occurrence, especially in winter during flu season. Some years we have had a tent outside the ED because the floor and ICU was full and our ED was overrun so we set up tents due to all the holds in the ED.

Is it bad for a hospital to be on diversion? Yes. Prior to Covid, the main concern for a receiving hospital if you were on diversion is a change in referral patterns. The last thing you want a transferring hospital to do is transfer to a different hospital because yours is full. Main reason is because if you are consistently full they stop calling you for transport. An accepting hospital wants to accept a transfer from a referral hospital at all costs to maintain that relationship.

In a post Covid world,everyone suddenly watches hospital occupancies like a hawk. could a hospital at maximum capacity be a sign bad stuff is about to happen and fora medical system to be overrun? Absolutely. However, I would look for several hospitals to be overrun before concern sets in. Even then, the key is how the entire hospital system and area is doing as a whole as you can transfer to hospitals with beds.

It is definitely a concern, but before we jump to the “Florida is the next Italy” scenario we need to see many hospitals at capacity and they need to be at capacity due to Covid and not due to other emergencies and post op ICU patients.
 
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