Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Chi84]

Things change pretty quickly. When the list came out the Lion King show was on it. Even Steve had that listed on the main page. So if it makes you feel good about yourself if I say I was wrong, fine...I was wrong. You people need to get a life.

We do have a life! Sure, it's posting thousands of messages on a Disney site, but what else is there to do right now?

 

[GoofGoof]

We do have a life! Sure, it's posting thousands of messages on a Disney site, but what else is there to do right now?

I‘m not talking about posting here, I’m talking about nitpicking irrelevant facts.

 

[mickeymiss]

For what its worth, I've heard one hospital in Tampa now has all icu beds occupied.

Can you throw the source up real quick? I can't find it.

 

[John park hopper]

If Disney employees people to enforce social distancing, those people would be cast members.

And they likely will just as they have been doing at Disney Springs.

I was being sarcastic

 

[MotherOfBirds]

If that is the case, if they don't report as scheduled they could get terminated for failure to show up for work.

It's a bad position to be put in. Not to mention that keeping their jobs will also mean risking the lives of anyone they live with.

It should not be up to the CM's to enforce the mask and distance rules. Disney should employee people specifically to roam the parks and make sure the rules are enforced. Employee some unemployed bar bouncers they would get people's attention real quick

Indeed, it should not be their responsibility. I hope that Disney would have the good sense to have designated people to enforce it, but I am not optimistic.

Either way, the fact remains that Florida's infection rates are surging, and it's only going to get scarier for CM's who have no choice but to interact with potentially asymptomatic guests day after day.

 

[jt04]

And don't forget the tens of thousands of people that have been hit by a bus while being positive for covid. Plus the end of life people that were hit by a bus that still had covid on it from the last covid person it hit.

In all seriousness if somebody is end of life and they have covid, the covid is probably what pushed them over the edge.

No doubt. My beef is the msm using the numbers irresponsibly to make people think that if they get the virus they will die. If healthy the odds are slim it will be fatal. Irresponsible fear tactics that have no doubt caused heart attacks and strokes.

 

[peter11435]

No doubt. My beef is the msm using the numbers irresponsibly to make people think that if they get the virus they will die. If healthy the odds are slim it will be fatal. Irresponsible fear tactics that have no doubt caused heart attacks and strokes.

Most people aren’t “healthy” and many have underlying conditions they may not even be aware of.

 

[jt04]

Most people aren’t “healthy” and many have underlying conditions they may not even be aware of.

Yes. But so far the survival rates for all but the most vulnerable are good. Most have no symptoms I think. Still waiting for clear unbiased numbers.

 

[The Mom]

What story are you talking about? Not the same one I was referencing.

In Florida, a night on the town ends with apparent coronavirus outbreak

In Jacksonville Beach, Florida, one night out on the town appears to be a source of a coronavirus outbreak that may have infected multiple patrons and employees. The manager of Lynch's Irish Pub, Keith Doherty, told NBC affiliate WTLV of Jacksonville on Monday that seven employees have tested...

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7 employees tested positive. That’s a fact and they tested positive a few days ago so none of them is 100% completely fine yet. Customers also tested positive. The bar closed for a deep cleaning. Thats how contact tracing works. An outbreak is identified and people who may have been exposed get tested. It’s really not in dispute whether there were cases relating to the place. The owner said when they reopen they will implement more procedures including masks for workers and more hand sanitizer and distancing of patrons.

The only correction to your response is that the time sequence is backwards. One of the 15 bar hoppers in the group got sick, so then all of the people with her plus the staff at the bar got tested. She more than likely had the virus before entering the bar (she is a healthcare worker), and shared it with her 15 closest friends - as none of them were wearing masks or social distancing - along with the staff, and probably other patrons.

So far, only one of them has been symptomatic. And she must have changed her tune because in an interview she admitted that she had made a mistake by not wearing a mask.

Edited to add - the fact that so many people can have this virus without knowing it means that it has been spreading for months. Way back when only those who had symptoms, direct exposure, or healthcare workers were allowed to be tested - which meant numerous cases were not picked up. Now that anyone who wants to be tested can be tested we're finding all of the asymptomatic cases. The JAX testing facilities have been reaching their daily capacities after this event, when prior to it they were almost empty.

Sometimes people have to be slapped in the face with reality before they "get it."

 

[lazyboy97o]

No doubt. My beef is the msm using the numbers irresponsibly to make people think that if they get the virus they will die. If healthy the odds are slim it will be fatal. Irresponsible fear tactics that have no doubt caused heart attacks and strokes.

No, the real problem is people such as yourself that dismiss what can be weeks of illness with unknown long term effects on previously healthy people simply because they didn’t die as if it is a dichotomy of fine or dead.

 

[mickeymiss]

I post these in the interest of spreading hope that casual community transmission is not seeming to be high risk at all. All potential exposure at Disney is casual even before the pandemic. It would be so much more safe now with precautions. This should be reassuring for guests and CM's for which Disney appears to be doing all they can to keep them protected. There appears to be a more than 50% or more chance of not catching it from someone you live with or sleep with.

Characteristics of Household Transmission of COVID-19

The secondary transmission rate of SARS-CoV-2 in households is 16.3%. Age of contacts and spousal relationship to the index case are risk factors for trans

academic.oup.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

 

[peter11435]

Yes. But so far the survival rates for all but the most vulnerable are good. Most have no symptoms I think. Still waiting for clear unbiased numbers.

But you don’t know until you get it if you might be one of those “most vulnerable.” And even if you survive there are lasting consequences.

 

[legwand77]

If we were able to test everyone that went to WDW the first two weeks of March, it would not surprise me in the slightest that thousands would have tested positive. Statistically it would be very possible for that to be the case.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I post these in the interest of spreading hope that casual community transmission is not seeming to be high risk at all. All potential exposure at Disney is casual even before the pandemic. It would be so much more safe now with precautions. This should be reassuring for guests and CM's for which Disney appears to be doing all they can to keep them protected. There appears to be a more than 50% or more chance of not catching it from someone you live with or sleep with.

Characteristics of Household Transmission of COVID-19

The secondary transmission rate of SARS-CoV-2 in households is 16.3%. Age of contacts and spousal relationship to the index case are risk factors for trans

academic.oup.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

So a little better than a coin flip chance you not catching it from someone you live with?

 

[jt04]

But you don’t know until you get it if you might be one of those “most vulnerable.” And even if you survive there are lasting consequences.

Welcome to real life. Even common chest colds cause "lasting damage". Every illness has an impact. No govt plan can take away such difficulties. And every solution has some sort of unintended consequence.

 

[peter11435]

Welcome to real life. Even common chest colds cause "lasting damage". Every illness has an impact. No govt plan can take away such difficulties. And every solution has some sort of unintended consequence.

 

[mickeymiss]

So a little better than a coin flip chance you not catching it from someone you live with?

They said 19% or more and didn't specify further so that's less chance of infection than a coin flip. My point is not that household contact is safe but that casual community transmission is likely very low and even lower with precautions.

 

[legwand77]

I post these in the interest of spreading hope that casual community transmission is not seeming to be high risk at all. All potential exposure at Disney is casual even before the pandemic. It would be so much more safe now with precautions. This should be reassuring for guests and CM's for which Disney appears to be doing all they can to keep them protected. There appears to be a more than 50% or more chance of not catching it from someone you live with or sleep with.

Characteristics of Household Transmission of COVID-19

The secondary transmission rate of SARS-CoV-2 in households is 16.3%. Age of contacts and spousal relationship to the index case are risk factors for trans

academic.oup.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

Exactly right, but media is causing people to think if they pass by someone in the store they will get it, when in reality if you are sleeping next to or living with someone, there is only a 50% chance at best you would even get it. ETA make that less than 50%

 

[GoofGoof]

The only correction to your response is that the time sequence is backwards. One of the 15 bar hoppers in the group got sick, so then all of the people with her plus the staff at the bar got tested. She more than likely had the virus before entering the bar (she is a healthcare worker), and shared it with her 15 closest friends - as none of them were wearing masks or social distancing - along with the staff, and probably other patrons.

So far, only one of them has been symptomatic. And she must have changed her tune because in an interview she admitted that she had made a mistake by not wearing a mask.

I did see a follow up where the manager said part of the new procedures in place after re-opening is that the staff will wear masks and they are going to enforce more physical distancing (no people standing shoulder to shoulder). It’s a good lesson for businesses to learn.

 

[Andrew C]

We shouldn’t understate the risk this has on the older community. We also shouldn’t overstate the risk to younger people. Of course there will be outliers on both sides. But that doesn’t change what the data shows. With that being said, you never know. So take the appropriate precautions.