Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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JoeCamel

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With people wearing masks, lip reading goes out the door. With the frequent downpours rainstorms in Central Florida during the rainy season there is going to be lot of rain drenched soaked masks. If one wants to get that Florida tan and wearing that mask that covers half of one's face, it is going to be a challenge.
It will be a personal decision, the parks are not going to open with a mask wearing mandate in place. If it does not work for you then it won't but no one is going to be required to wear one at all times. They simply would not open the parks to that.
Excuse me for this but you really push the limits of these subjects you speculate on, I understand these are trying times but maybe think about it before you hit reply?
 

Lilofan

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It will be a personal decision, the parks are not going to open with a mask wearing mandate in place. If it does not work for you then it won't but no one is going to be required to wear one at all times. They simply would not open the parks to that.
Excuse me for this but you really push the limits of these subjects you speculate on, I understand these are trying times but maybe think about it before you hit reply?
It is not speculation. It is real world examples that can happen.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
You can’t expect a bus driver to have masks for everyone who rides the bus

Why not? They put the policy into affect, right? Should they not be able to provide accommodations for people who don’t have masks then? Could the police have offered him a mask to de-escalate? Maybe. I’m just asking questions.
 

GoofGoof

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Why not? They put the policy into affect, right? Should they not be able to provide accommodations for people who don’t have masks then? Could the police have offered him a mask to de-escalate? Maybe. I’m just asking questions.
Again, once the police were called in the guy was being removed for being belligerent. If you are a threat to other passengers or the driver you are removed. What if they gave him a mask and let him stay and he assaulted the driver or another passenger later in the trip? They had to remove him. Could the driver have offered him a mask to wear, sure. But we don’t know if the guy would have worn it.

Last thing I’ll say on the topic since I don’t want to hijack the thread on this one incident. SEPTA changed the policy after this happened because I think they realized the policy doesn’t work. There’s no way to enforce the policy and come out of it looking good. I think this incident shows why a mask requirement will never work at WDW. I am with @JoeCamel in thinking that if the state mandates masks the parks just won’t re-open until that’s lifted. It’s an impossible mandate to enforce.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
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Perhaps this has been mentioned before, but I'm curious what the consensus is on prices at WDW once the coast is clear. I'm expecting something not unlike the post-9/11 tourism crash, so the insane prices of 2019 are just not going to fly anymore if they want butts in monorail seats. So many people who could afford it, or barely afford it, are out of work, took a pay cut, or will just be too anxious about traveling for a while after it's safe to do so. That's a big hit for The Mouse.
Conversely, I’m friends with several travel agencies. There’s so many Europeans chomping at the bit for their vacation, planned or postponed. I think you’ll see a lot of international visitors once we can visit.

Theres also rumblings of our airlines preparing to begin to restart in the June - July timeframe. As always, things can change but there is a glimmer of light in the tunnel.
 

DisneyDebRob

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For some that still have jobs. For the 15 million that have applied for unemployment just in the last 3 weeks and businesses that may not survive this closure, it will not be forgotten.
It’s tough for anyone losing jobs, don’t think anyone is not feeling for them. But most will get jobs again and old and new businesses will open. It won’t all be gone in a year but it will be different for many.
 

Rimmit

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In 1 year we will have forgotten all about this.

In 1 year we will be lucky if we haven’t lost a friend, family member, or acquaintance to this.

In 1 year many will be lucky to either have a job or returned to a job they had previously lost.

In 1 year we will be lucky if we have a vaccine to help mitigate this disaster.

In 1 year we will be lucky if Disney is operating in any reasonable capacity.

In 1 year we will be remembering all the fallen front line workers that gave their life for this. Not trying to forget them.

In 1 year the chance of forgetting all about this is zero.
 
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thomas998

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Keep labor costs low, maximize efficiency and productivity to maximize profits. That is business ownership 101. If Disney did not care about their staff, they would not have paid them a full salary for 5 weeks to stay at home. All that work they pay into the unemployment system, they could have furloughed them in the middle of March.
I think you are forgetting that the first lockdown wasn't scheduled to last that long, which means they originally were thinking that they would be back up and running by now. If the government had announced that they were going to be closed until May then I expect they would have cut them sooner, maybe not the day after the lockdown announcement for PR reasons but they would have done it sooner. The only reason the workers didn't get cut sooner to begin with is that the government has slow rolled the lockdown by announcing it in pieces... and now who knows when it will really be over.
 

thomas998

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By "Don't think they care about anyone but themselves" I take it to mean that they don't care about anyone but their shareholders. As a shareholder, I am fine with that.
I'm also a shareholder but I don't think they really care about me first if that was the case they would not be paying a lot of the executives as much as they do, it is your typical large corporation where the executives put themselves first and shareholders second or third.
 

GoofGoof

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I think you are forgetting that the first lockdown wasn't scheduled to last that long, which means they originally were thinking that they would be back up and running by now. If the government had announced that they were going to be closed until May then I expect they would have cut them sooner, maybe not the day after the lockdown announcement for PR reasons but they would have done it sooner. The only reason the workers didn't get cut sooner to begin with is that the government has slow rolled the lockdown by announcing it in pieces... and now who knows when it will really be over.
I agree. Disney would have furloughed sooner had they known this would last at least through May. There was hope from Disney and everyone else that things would open back up in April. I remember saying in March that they might wait until the spring break crowds were gone to re-open WDW around April 20th. That seems to line up with what they were thinking internally, hence the delay to furlough.
 

21stamps

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I think you are forgetting that the first lockdown wasn't scheduled to last that long, which means they originally were thinking that they would be back up and running by now. If the government had announced that they were going to be closed until May then I expect they would have cut them sooner, maybe not the day after the lockdown announcement for PR reasons but they would have done it sooner. The only reason the workers didn't get cut sooner to begin with is that the government has slow rolled the lockdown by announcing it in pieces... and now who knows when it will really be over.

I’ve thought about this a lot. I think it was/is announced in pieces for a few reasons-

Prevention of even more astronomical strain on unemployment filings.
To get compliance from the general public by giving a set relatively short amount of time.
To try to keep the public calm.

I don’t think anyone, CEOs included, knew for certain that closures would be extended, and therefore kept as many people on as possible, until it was just impossible to do so. I don’t believe that Disney, or any other company, had poor intentions.
 
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