Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[awoogala]

A Disney World musician, soon to be furloughed, still finds a way to share joy during coronavirus

For three decades at Walt Disney World, Carol Stein has entertained tourists, playing Disney melodies for children at the Grand Floridian Resort or drinking songs on her piano at Epcot’s Brit…

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ugh paywall! I love Carol! Does anyone have a link?

 

[Lilofan]

I'm also a shareholder but I don't think they really care about me first if that was the case they would not be paying a lot of the executives as much as they do, it is your typical large corporation where the executives put themselves first and shareholders second or third.

The execs compensation is also tied into the company stock price. Keep it moving upward to make sure our investments work harder than we do. If not, their tenure as an exec will be a short lived one.

 

[thomas998]

In 1 year we will be lucky if we haven’t lost a friend or family member to this.

In 1 year many will be lucky to either have a job or returned to a job they had previously lost.

In 1 year we will be lucky if we have a vaccine to help mitigate this disaster.

In 1 year we will be lucky if Disney is operating in any reasonable capacity.

In 1 year we will be remembering all the a fallen front line workers that gave their life for this. Not trying to forget them.

In 1 year the chance of forgetting all about this is zero.

I thought about the odds of everyone losing a family member or friend... I'm not sure most of us will have when this is done and over with. Sure we will all have known of someone that had the virus... but when only maybe 1 in a 100 people will die from it, I don't know if most adults will know someone. Make a list of your closest friends and your family members and you probably won't have 100 people on it. But just imagine that everyone on your list has to go push a magic buzzer what turns green if 30% of the time which is probably the odds of you getting the virus in the first year of it floating around... and if you got the green light you have to got pull a marble from a bag of 99 white ones and 1 black one.... if you get the black one the evil witch knocks you dead... Naw.. when I think about it with probabilities I don't think everyone is going to personally know someone that dies from it. We may all know someone who knows someone that had family member that died from it but it won't be quite as personal as actually being close to someone that died from it which means people will quickly forget it.... but generally I would agree with the rest of your list... I just don't think it is going to kill nearly as many people as the media initially hyped this up to be. If you think back about a month you would have thought the world was coming to an end and we were living through an apocalyptic time when mankind could be extinct.

Think back at how many people you thought were going to die from this. I'm betting it was a lot more than we are currently looking at being dead. Now consider that they are learning more about how to treat the virus with each passing day and more than likely the mortality rate will be even lower in the coming months even before the ever find a vaccine. Who knows they may get to the point that a vaccine isn't even necessary as they will have discovered drugs that pretty much eliminate any deaths from simply having virus.

 

[Parker in NYC]

In 1 year we will be lucky if we haven’t lost a friend or family member to this.

In 1 year many will be lucky to either have a job or returned to a job they had previously lost.

In 1 year we will be lucky if we have a vaccine to help mitigate this disaster.

In 1 year we will be lucky if Disney is operating in any reasonable capacity.

In 1 year we will be remembering all the fallen front line workers that gave their life for this. Not trying to forget them.

In 1 year the chance of forgetting all about this is zero.

@tallica, how could you possibly laugh at this post? I need an explanation.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

ugh paywall! I love Carol! Does anyone have a link?

Her live streams are on her Facebook which is public. Yeehaw Bob is also doing live streams on his Facebook. Equity Ben is active on Instagram and “dailypun99” on Instagram is the place to go if you’re missing citizens of Hollywood

 

[thomas998]

ugh paywall! I love Carol! Does anyone have a link?

 

[thomas998]

I don't know about you but the chances of ESPN losing Monday Night Football and not carrying any NFL football beyond 2021 is sky high right now.

Given the slumping rating that football has had in the past few years, having ABC and ESPN in a position to get out of the football business might not be a bad thing. .. at the very least you would expect the prices they would have to pay to air it would be lower in the future if the popularity continues to wane.

 

[SJN1279]

I thought about the odds of everyone losing a family member or friend... I'm not sure most of us will have when this is done and over with. Sure we will all have known of someone that had the virus... but when only maybe 1 in a 100 people will die from it, I don't know if most adults will know someone. Make a list of your closest friends and your family members and you probably won't have 100 people on it. But just imagine that everyone on your list has to go push a magic buzzer what turns green if 30% of the time which is probably the odds of you getting the virus in the first year of it floating around... and if you got the green light you have to got pull a marble from a bad of 99 white ones and 1 black one.... if you get the black one the evil witch knocks you dead... Naw.. when I think about it with probabilities I don't think everyone is going to personally know someone that dies from it. We may all know someone who knows someone that had family member that died from it but it won't be quite as personal as actually being close to someone that died from it which means people will quickly forget it.... but generally I would agree with the rest of your list... I just don't think it is going to kill nearly as many people as the media initially hyped this up to be. If you think back about a month you would have thought the world was coming to an end and we were living through an apocalyptic time when mankind could be extinct.

Think back at how many people you thought were going to die from this. I'm betting it was a lot more than we are currently looking at being dead. Now consider that they are learning more about how to treat the virus with each passing day and more than likely the mortality rate will be even lower in the coming months even before the ever find a vaccine. Who knows they may get to the point that a vaccine isn't even necessary as they will have discovered drugs that pretty much eliminate any deaths from simply having virus.

I already lost my Mom.

I hope they get a treatment for this soon.

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

Conversely, I’m friends with several travel agencies. There’s so many Europeans chomping at the bit for their vacation, planned or postponed. I think you’ll see a lot of international visitors once we can visit.

Theres also rumblings of our airlines preparing to begin to restart in the June - July timeframe. As always, things can change but there is a glimmer of light in the tunnel.

I feel the same. So many people are eager to "return to normal" or just get out/away after being stuck at home fore months.

Not to mention, us essential employees are tired! A vacation is definitely in order for me once things settle.

We just cancelled our May trip. We decided to free up that money & if we get word it will open early, we'll rebook last minute. Otherwise we have a September trip booked and may tack on a December trip to make up for the two cancelled trips.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I already lost my Mom.

I hope they get a treatment for this soon.

I'm so sorry for your loss...prayers and hugs to you.

 

[Slpy3270]

Given the slumping rating that football has had in the past few years, having ABC and ESPN in a position to get out of the football business might not be a bad thing. .. at the very least you would expect the prices they would have to pay to air it would be lower in the future if the popularity continues to wane.

Except cable operators will soon demand Disney decrease the subscriber fee for presumed loss of value of the networks, lest they risk being blacked out in millions of homes like the regional Fox Sports networks.

 

[natatomic]

Regardless of whether or not Disney mandates mask, it’s clear they’re gonna have to at least tweak their “no masks on people over the age of 14” policy.

 

[thomas998]

The execs compensation is also tied into the company stock price. Keep it moving upward to make sure our investments work harder than we do. If not, their tenure as an exec will be a short lived one.

I'm well aware of that, but they are still grossly overpaid for what they do. Especially the CEOs in any large corporation, remember in the year that the stock price doesn't go up and actually declines you don't see CEO's seeing their salaries impacted at all, their bonuses might be a little less than usually but they are still astronomical... for CEO's to really get hammered in the compensation department the company has to be near bankruptcy... then when a CEO does royally mess things up they still end up with a golden parachute that is embarrassingly large by any reasonable measure. Unfortunately it happens because the majority of board of directors that oversee executive compensation are friends with the CEO and put their friendship with the CEO above their duty to look after the shareholders interests. Go look at a list of CEO to worker pay ratios and you'll see the US is way above other countries, that is in large part because of the US's wonky way of selecting board members. In a place like Germany in a large company the employees get to elect half the board which means it isn't stacked with friends of the CEO... but in the US you generally get a board that decides who the shareholders can vote for to be on the board so everyone on the board is really an insider and once the CEO gets to be friends with a few members its all over for the shareholder being first on their minds.

 

[shernernum]

Given the slumping rating that football has had in the past few years, having ABC and ESPN in a position to get out of the football business might not be a bad thing. .. at the very least you would expect the prices they would have to pay to air it would be lower in the future if the popularity continues to wane.

Not quite

National Football League television viewership increases 5% for 2019 regular season

For the second consecutive season, the league increased its average TV viewership, improving to 16.5 million per game, and expecting to finish with more than 180 million in total viewers for the 2019 regular season.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Lora Baines Bradley]

I can see both sides. The bus driver has to show up for work every day and put himself and his family at risk. We have no idea if he is in the high risk group or has immediate family members who are. If the rules are that you have to wear a mask to ride the bus then I don’t blame the driver for calling the cops. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. I also credit the police for not arresting the guy or charging him with anything. They removed him and de-escalated the situation. No need for additional charges. SEPTA did change the rules after that incident. They are now strongly encouraging masks but not requiring them to ride. People just need to remember that the mask isn’t for your benefit it’s to prevent you from infecting others. Essential workers like bus drivers are at high risk.

In reference to WDW, I think this shows you exactly why requiring masks isn’t going to work. The first time a person gets dragged off a bus or barred from the Magic Kingdom there will be a viral video and tons of people supporting the person who is breaking the rules. As others have said already, the culture here is different than parts of Asia where they are requiring masks. Too many people here will simply ignore the rules or refuse to follow them.

Having slept on this, I realize this is more complex than my initial reaction. I definitely don’t blame the bus driver for calling the cops- if the man refused to comply I would have done the same thing. I’d like to know more details on the situation- was the immediate reaction to remove him with force?

 

[thomas998]

Except cable operators will soon demand Disney decrease the subscriber fee for presumed loss of value of the networks, lest they risk being blacked out in millions of homes like the regional Fox Sports networks.

I expect at some point cable operators are going to get to the point of ala carte plans where subscribers won't have to even take the standard package of major networks and ESPN... when that happens it will really put pressure on the price Disney can charge for ESPN, right now most cable companies are stuck with ESPN because their agreements with local governments had it as part of the basic package which forces them to keep it regardless of how many subscribers actually even want it. It is a big reason cable bills continually go up, the cable companies unlike satellite providers can't just drop channels if they get too high on some of the ones that they have in their basic packages. But I know where I live some of the local networks have gotten into wars with the satellite providers which refuse to pay them more for the programming and then just cut them from the lineup. The local networks are learning the hard way that they can't just keep asking for more and I expect at some point Disney will find the same thing is true with ESPN.

 

[Lilofan]

I'm well aware of that, but they are still grossly overpaid for what they do. Especially the CEOs in any large corporation, remember in the year that the stock price doesn't go up and actually declines you don't see CEO's seeing their salaries impacted at all, their bonuses might be a little less than usually but they are still astronomical... for CEO's to really get hammered in the compensation department the company has to be near bankruptcy... then when a CEO does royally mess things up they still end up with a golden parachute that is embarrassingly large by any reasonable measure. Unfortunately it happens because the majority of board of directors that oversee executive compensation are friends with the CEO and put their friendship with the CEO above their duty to look after the shareholders interests. Go look at a list of CEO to worker pay ratios and you'll see the US is way above other countries, that is in large part because of the US's wonky way of selecting board members. In a place like Germany in a large company the employees get to elect half the board which means it isn't stacked with friends of the CEO... but in the US you generally get a board that decides who the shareholders can vote for to be on the board so everyone on the board is really an insider and once the CEO gets to be friends with a few members its all over for the shareholder being first on their minds.

Since you are a shareholder, suggest your attend a company shareholder meeting and partake in Q&A to voice your concerns directly to Iger/Chapek. Executive compensation while generous is like you said, always approved by a company board of directors. That's nothing new.

 

[Polynesia]

I thought about the odds of everyone losing a family member or friend... I'm not sure most of us will have when this is done and over with. Sure we will all have known of someone that had the virus... but when only maybe 1 in a 100 people will die from it, I don't know if most adults will know someone. Make a list of your closest friends and your family members and you probably won't have 100 people on it. But just imagine that everyone on your list has to go push a magic buzzer what turns green if 30% of the time which is probably the odds of you getting the virus in the first year of it floating around... and if you got the green light you have to got pull a marble from a bad of 99 white ones and 1 black one.... if you get the black one the evil witch knocks you dead... Naw.. when I think about it with probabilities I don't think everyone is going to personally know someone that dies from it. We may all know someone who knows someone that had family member that died from it but it won't be quite as personal as actually being close to someone that died from it which means people will quickly forget it.... but generally I would agree with the rest of your list... I just don't think it is going to kill nearly as many people as the media initially hyped this up to be. If you think back about a month you would have thought the world was coming to an end and we were living through an apocalyptic time when mankind could be extinct.

Think back at how many people you thought were going to die from this. I'm betting it was a lot more than we are currently looking at being dead. Now consider that they are learning more about how to treat the virus with each passing day and more than likely the mortality rate will be even lower in the coming months even before the ever find a vaccine. Who knows they may get to the point that a vaccine isn't even necessary as they will have discovered drugs that pretty much eliminate any deaths from simply having virus.

I appreciate your optimism. Many of the posts are worst case scenario. Things ARE changing everyday. New drugs and combination of drugs are being tried. A second wave may or may not come. We don’t know for sure yet. A vaccine may be available by autumn. I’m betting on a vaccine being fast tracked for several reasons. This is global and brilliant scientists from around the world are working on this and collaborating. Another reason why this may be pushed quickly I am not allowed to mention per forum rules. What we’re doing presently is the correct thing to do. We learn as we go forward and do the best we can each day.

 

[PeoplemoverTTA]

I already lost my Mom.

I hope they get a treatment for this soon.

I’m so sorry for your loss

 

[thomas998]

Not quite

National Football League television viewership increases 5% for 2019 regular season

For the second consecutive season, the league increased its average TV viewership, improving to 16.5 million per game, and expecting to finish with more than 180 million in total viewers for the 2019 regular season.

www.cnbc.com

Depends on the timeframe you are looking at. While 2019 was higher than the previous 4 years it was still below 2015. And if you look at Monday Night Football back in before 2010 you would often have viewer over 15 million. So have it improved since the low point in 2017 when it averaged 10.7 million, yes... but it has still been underperforming compared to its heyday.