Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Nunu

Nunu

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According to the WHO, as mentioned in @MisterPenguin 's post, it appears that the most viable option would be ibuprofen. But I'm still confused, why is it taking so long to come up with a definite answer as to what to take to help alleviate COVID-19's symptoms?

This might sound silly, but how about aspirin? It lowers fevers, helps with inflammation and alleviates overall pain. Any studies/data on this? I'm curious as to why I haven't heard good old aspirin being mentioned at all.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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Nunu said:
According to the WHO, as mentioned in @MisterPenguin 's post, it appears that the most viable option would be ibuprofen. But I'm still confused, why is it taking so long to come up with a definite answer as to what to take to help alleviate COVID-19's symptoms?

This might sound silly, but how about aspirin? It lowers fevers, helps with inflammation and alleviates overall pain. Any studies/data on this? I'm curious as to why I haven't heard good old aspirin being mentioned at all.
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CV19 is too new to have such tests being done to determine these things.

An enterprising research team can canvass as many hospitals as they can (randomly chosen) and inquire about each critical patient's dosage routine and see if there are any correlations to what was given and what was the result. But then you'd only have correlations. And correlations aren't causes.

The one doctor that raised the alarm about Ibuprofen was based on the sample of his own patients with CV19 who were giving Ibuprofen and made a connection between Ibuprofen and suddenly worsening conditions. Well, that's too small a sample size to draw conclusions. It's enough to for a theory to be tested with double blind studies. Probably in light of no one else seeing the same thing, WHO withdrew it's caution.

Also, given how prevalent Ibuprofen is, one would think that hospitals would be seeing a lot of suddenly worsening conditions (10 times worse!!!) and would also be trying to track down the cause of such a syndrome. Given that lack of Sudden Onset COVID19 Respiratory Failure Syndrome... what that one doctor experienced may be a fluke or caused by some other agent.

There are a lot of medications that don't get along with one another (contraindications), but I can't think of a virus which gets supercharged from a pain reliever (that I've heard of, but I'm not a doctor... just a very well read person :) ).
 
flynnibus

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solidyne said:
Surely there were hospitalizations, though, even deaths, in January that simply were not attributed to Corona at the time. We've heard many anecdotes of people who were hospitalized this season for a "virus" (not just in Florida) but who tested negative for flu. I'm not suggesting COVID-19 was rampant all over the US in January—none of us armchair experts can know that for sure—but its presence can't be ruled out, can it?
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Except viral infections happen like that all the time. Just because they got sick with a virus doesn’t necessarily mean it was covid-19

Everyone wants to make these connections - but it’s really not much than coincidence. we forget ppl get sick like that all the time.

What is different here is the really bad contagious aspect. When someone normally comes down with a bug... it’s not always as contagious or brutal
 
disney4life2008

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The interesting thing is that Disney (and Universal) are only connected to one confirmed case and death. I have heard none from cms (domestic or international.
 
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Lilofan

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Companies I have worked for in the past hired outside of the company "efficiency experts" so these staff members can look at ways to maximize productivity and profits to include recommending areas that could be cut (aka layoffs). Looks like our new normal for now is social distancing so "social distancing" or "physical distancing" experts to be it more bluntly may be a job title in the near future.
 
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fvrs7189

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rowrbazzle said:
Higher ed is different, I think. They have to house many of the students from all around the country or world. Once they send them away, it's very difficult to just bring them back. Elementary-High School is local. If they started back next week, kids could be there.

Our district has been incremental in closing. We're at almost the end of April right now. That would be a solid 7 weeks of distancing, 5 or 6 of having non-essential businesses closed, and a month of "stay home" orders. I could see the schools reopening at that point. But after being closed for so long, I'm not expecting it.
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VA has closed all grade school (K-12) schools for the rest of the acedemic year. They are in the process of determining how to continue education w/o classroom interaction.
 
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celluloid

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Honest question:
What was the benefit to Cast Members of Disney theme Parks to be told they will remain closed until further notice but paid up until the 18th? Why put a date on it unless there is debate if it is not going to go much beyond that? Again, honest question why that would be communicated that way. It seems to just give CMs a date to dread and wonder about after.
 
JERiv

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LittleBuford said:
If what’s happening in the world of higher education is anything to go by, I think it’s safe to assume that schools at all levels are not going to resume for the rest of the academic year. I know that’s sad, but it’s a reality one must face.
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Most higher education is going online. I know the university here is doing so. All classes have continued, just online.

However regular schools will not have the resources, training, or tools necessary to do so. Unless the school your kids attend happens to have enviable resources. So most schools will likely not resume for the rest of the school year unless you live in an area that isn't impacted by covid-19.
 
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GoofGoof

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celluloid said:
Honest question:
What was the benefit to Cast Members of Disney theme Parks to be told they will remain closed until further notice but paid up until the 18th? Why put a date on it if it is not going to go much beyond that? Again, honest question why that would be communicated that way. It seems to just give CMS a date to dread and wonder about after.
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My guess is they don’t want guests booking trips starting 4/19 when they know there’s a very good chance the parks won’t open then. Thats why they said until further notice. I think the 4/19 date gives them the option to evaluate the situation around that time. Many experts seem to think we may see a peak by mid-April but who knows if that’s true. If the situation looks like things will be opening sooner than later around 4/19 they can announce an opening date and also potentially pay employees through that date. If things are still up in the air or worse than expected they may potentially furlough or lay off workers. I think setting the date of 4/18 just tells us around when the next announcement is coming.
 
GoofGoof

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Polynesia said:
No he’s not. He’s trying to protect the people in his state. I applaud him for that. If you listen to his news conferences no time has he blamed others. I listen to him daily.
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Seems like the only people he was worried about were the bars and hotels. While others were doing things to encourage social distancing this was spring break in Florida. I hope it doesn’t happen, but if Florida gets a lot worse these pictures will come back to haunt him.
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GoofGoof said:
My guess is they don’t want guests booking trips starting 4/19 when they know there’s a very good chance the parks won’t open then. Thats why they said until further notice. I think the 4/19 date gives them the option to evaluate the situation around that time. Many experts seem to think we may see a peak by mid-April but who knows if that’s true. If the situation looks like things will be opening sooner than later around 4/19 they can announce an opening date and also potentially pay employees through that date. If things are still up in the air or worse than expected they may potentially furlough or lay off workers. I think setting the date of 4/18 just tells us around when the next announcement is coming.
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I believe cast are seeing the light of potential layoffs and or furloghs. Disney stepped up to pay the cast a full paycheck to stay home for the past month which allowed them to pay their rent/mortgage instead of some possibly being homeless. I remember when a number of people I worked with lost their jobs and foreclosed on their homes or condos in 2008,09 during the recession.
 
Polynesia

Polynesia

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solidyne said:
Yep. As testing increased, so did the number of cases. No surprise, really. Funny, though, I watched that exact NYT map daily for four weeks, and it's strange now to see it animated!

Surely there were hospitalizations, though, even deaths, in January that simply were not attributed to Corona at the time. We've heard many anecdotes of people who were hospitalized this season for a "virus" (not just in Florida) but who tested negative for flu. I'm not suggesting COVID-19 was rampant all over the US in January—none of us armchair experts can know that for sure—but its presence can't be ruled out, can it?
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Thank you for your post. So many cast members were sick in January. Not just for a few days but for a week at least. Many did go to the ER and negative flu tests came back. I’m not a cast member but have ties to some. And after I stayed at Disney for three days in late January I became extremely ill and was hospitalized with a negative flu test. The ER dr said she didn’t understand how it came back negative. My cardiologist suggested I could very well have had covid 19. Articles have come out criticizing Disney for not closing earlier. Yet you don’t hear about cast members being sick in large numbers. You’d think they’d all been exposed with constant guest interaction. People were upset with Trump saying this was a problem back in January that was ignored. So it’s very conceivable that it’s been around for longer than we were aware.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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Lilofan said:
I believe cast are seeing the light of potential layoffs and or furloghs. Disney stepped up to pay the cast a full paycheck to stay home for the past month which allowed them to pay their rent/mortgage instead of some possibly being homeless. I remember when a number of people I worked with lost their jobs and foreclosed on their homes or condos in 2008,09 during the recession.
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I agree with that. Disney can afford to do this and it’s the right move. I think the curious part is why extend this for 3 more weeks now if the parks aren’t opening any time soon. Makes me suspect that they do plan to open the parks sooner than later. If they thought it would be June or July it would have been furloughs and/or layoffs. Extending makes me think maybe a May opening if the situation looks good.
 
Polynesia

Polynesia

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GoofGoof said:
Seems like the only people he was worried about were the bars and hotels. While others were doing things to encourage social distancing this was spring break in Florida. I hope it doesn’t happen, but if Florida gets a lot worse these pictures will come back to haunt him.
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Yes that was spring break in Florida. I saw the pictures. Take a look at the beaches now. I feel sorry for all the people in the states that these kids went back to. New York kept schools open while they were already closed in Florida. At the same time Illinois was still not going social distancing. This wasn’t just a Florida event.
 
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