Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Angel Ariel]

One of my son’s assignments yesterday was to watch the FB Live at 3 and then write a summary!! We are enjoying them.

This is our first year since moving here that I let our Zoo membership expire. We simply rarely have time to go often enough anymore. Went a total of 2 times in 2019. Our membership expired in the beginning of this month, now I debating renewing. We are still Museum members, I stuck by them even thru the rehab closures, I’d feel horrible not doing the same for the Zoo.

We've been watching them daily, and DD is writing a page for each animal in her Pictello app. We download the picture the Zoo uploads of the animal, and then she shares what she learned in a few sentences/animal. She'll essentially have a digital book at the end of this. Pictello is very easy to use - it is designed for use by those with disabilities, but honestly is a great tool for any child writing. You don't have to enable to text to voice unless you want to. Much easier for slideshow-type presentations than powerpoint. highly recommend it for any child!

 

[ToTBellHop]

Out of curiosity, what are you looking at when you say that? Just the downward slopes on the graphs?

It's kind of weird. New York has peaks in a week or two with a crap-ton of cases. South Dakota has the fewest cases in the country, but peaks 3-4 weeks away. Texas is in between in cases, but peaks in 3 weeks.

Yes, different states peak at different times and different extremes. Timing is based upon how long it’s already been there and how widespread it is already. This, along with population density, influences peak. It’s rather widespread in the Northeast, already, thus the earlier peak.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Yes, different states peak at different times and different extremes. Timing is based upon how long it’s already been there and how widespread it is already. This, along with population density, influences peak. It’s rather widespread in the Northeast, already, thus the earlier peak.

Yeah that all makes sense. I meant weird just in the sense that different parts of the country were seeing such starkly different situations.

I'm still curious what you were thinking in terms of the schools reopening. What were you basing it on in that data?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Yeah that all makes sense. I meant weird just in the sense that different parts of the country were seeing such starkly different situations.

I'm still curious what you were thinking in terms of the schools reopening. What were you basing it on in that data?

If it peaks in the northeast in mid-April and then starts declining, perhaps, schools could open in June. The combination of a later peak elsewhere and an earlier end to the school-year makes that less likely elsewhere.

 

[natatomic]

So I’m wondering if them not mentioning the salary thing has to do with the fact that the salary managers and what not have still been working… So maybe after the 18th the hourly employees will be furloughed

Not every salaried employee has been working. My ex is salaried and he hasn’t worked since Disney closed. I’m sure he’s not the only one, and I’d imagine more salaried CMs will join him soon.

 

[WondersOfLife]

EDIT - False info from false news. I became a victim of, well, social media. Go about your day.

 

[Schema]

I know I know "second hand source blah blah blah" but a radio talk show host who is friends with a doctor... Has stated that his doctor friend told him that there are many more cases and patience in the hospital than the numbers being posted to the public. (Which would make sense, as all of my nursing friends have seemed to be talking about nothing but COVID19 patients).

IMPORTANT: Also in this podcast, ADVIL makes the symptoms 10X WORSE, according to the doctor. It rocket boosts the virus. Articles are saying "experts say it is unfounded..." But the doctor said that all severe patience had taken advil. Use this information as you will... But I'm just saying. Better safe than SORRY.

I cant find the direct one but it was from a podcast called Garage Logic.

The Ibuprofen Debate Reveals the Danger of Covid-19 Rumors

An online furor over whether it’s safe to use the fever reducer reveals how people are sharing incomplete—and sometimes bad—information.

www.wired.com

 

[LittleBuford]

If what’s happening in the world of higher education is anything to go by, I think it’s safe to assume that schools at all levels are not going to resume for the rest of the academic year. I know that’s sad, but it’s a reality one must face.

 

[Andrew C]

My kid’s brick and mortar school is done for the year. Thank goodness for virtual classrooms via zoom!

 

[Josh Hendy]

This looks promising. 80 patients with 78 having good results

Coronavirus cure: French researchers completed new additional study on 80 patients, results show a combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin to be effective in treating COVID-19 - Tech Startups

On March 19, we published a story about a trial study conducted by French researchers which showed a combination of Hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) and Azithromycin to be effective in the treatment of COVID-19 patients. The study, which was led by renowned Didier Raoult M.D/Ph.D in...

techstartups.com

In 80 in-patients receiving a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, the team found a clinical improvement in all but one 86 year-old patient who died, and one 74-year old patient still in intensive care unit.

 

[WDWTrojan]

So I’m wondering if them not mentioning the salary thing has to do with the fact that the salary managers and what not have still been working… So maybe after the 18th the hourly employees will be furloughed

Yes, Disney has thousands of behind-the-scenes salaried employees who are working just as much now as they ever were, but now mostly from home. This includes everybody from corporate communications, to labor relations, to marketing to IT/tech ops.

However, there are thousands upon thousands of salaried employees on the operations side that can do some work from home, but whose primary responsibilities are day-to-day operation that really don't have much to do now. There's nothing much a Cosmic Rays foods (Guest Experience Manager in Disney parlance) can do right now, for example.

 

[thomas998]

Looking at the models for the peak in the US.

Kind of makes sense... only question is was that the peak for every part of the US. My expectation is if you peaked in half the country, and the opened a park that caters to people from all over the country you might be setting yourself up for more outbreaks in Florida where as you mention the models have it already peaking. I mean isn't Wuhan already having to deal with flare ups now because of people returning from other places? I would be afraid the same thing would happen with Disney if they opened before the thing was pretty much stamped out across the country.

 

[Kevin_W]

This looks promising. 80 patients with 78 having good results

Coronavirus cure: French researchers completed new additional study on 80 patients, results show a combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin to be effective in treating COVID-19 - Tech Startups

On March 19, we published a story about a trial study conducted by French researchers which showed a combination of Hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) and Azithromycin to be effective in the treatment of COVID-19 patients. The study, which was led by renowned Didier Raoult M.D/Ph.D in...

techstartups.com

That sounds very hopeful. But it's interesting that by Google I can;t really find this reported anywhere except techstartups.com Seem slike it would be makign more news.

 

[UNCgolf]

This looks promising. 80 patients with 78 having good results

Coronavirus cure: French researchers completed new additional study on 80 patients, results show a combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin to be effective in treating COVID-19 - Tech Startups

On March 19, we published a story about a trial study conducted by French researchers which showed a combination of Hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) and Azithromycin to be effective in the treatment of COVID-19 patients. The study, which was led by renowned Didier Raoult M.D/Ph.D in...

techstartups.com

Based on some of the other articles on that website, I'm not sure it's a very good source. I also can't find anything else to corroborate.

I did just find some interesting information about the French doctor who ran both studies, though -- apparently he's been caught falsifying data before. Removing information that contradicts what he wants to prove, manipulating the data that does exist, etc. and he's also said that he thinks controlled, randomized trials are pointless. All in all, he doesn't sound like the most reliable person.

 

[solidyne]

"It won't be bad in Florida"

OK... watch this...

Watch How the Coronavirus Spread Across the United States (Published 2020)

It’s been two months since the first confirmed case was reported in the United States. As testing expanded and the virus spread, the number of new cases has multiplied at a rapid pace.

www.nytimes.com

Yep. As testing increased, so did the number of cases. No surprise, really. Funny, though, I watched that exact NYT map daily for four weeks, and it's strange now to see it animated!

[...] If the virus ran through Disney in January, there would be hospitalizations and deaths to back that up. [...]

Surely there were hospitalizations, though, even deaths, in January that simply were not attributed to Corona at the time. We've heard many anecdotes of people who were hospitalized this season for a "virus" (not just in Florida) but who tested negative for flu. I'm not suggesting COVID-19 was rampant all over the US in January—none of us armchair experts can know that for sure—but its presence can't be ruled out, can it?

 

[UNCgolf]

Surely there were hospitalizations, though, even deaths, in January that simply were not attributed to Corona at the time. We've heard many anecdotes of people who were hospitalized this season for a "virus" (not just in Florida) but who tested negative for flu. I'm not suggesting COVID-19 was rampant all over the US in January—none of us armchair experts can know that for sure—but its presence can't be ruled out, can it?

My GF was really sick for a couple of weeks after returning home from Florida in late January -- we were at Disney for a week, and then she was in Naples with family for a few more days before heading home. She had a really painful sore throat and essentially all the symptoms of strep throat, but two separate strep tests came back negative. We've wondered if maybe she had Covid-19 and hopefully there will be widespread antibody testing available sometime soon just to check.

 

[DisneyCane]

I know I know "second hand source blah blah blah" but a radio talk show host who is friends with a doctor... Has stated that his doctor friend told him that there are many more cases and patients in the hospital than the numbers being posted to the public. (Which would make sense, as all of my nursing friends have seemed to be talking about nothing but COVID19 patients).

IMPORTANT: Also in this podcast, ADVIL makes the symptoms 10X WORSE, according to the doctor. It rocket boosts the virus. Articles are saying "experts say it is unfounded..." But the doctor said that all severe patience had taken advil. Use this information as you will... But I'm just saying. Better safe than SORRY.

I cant find the direct one but it was from a podcast called Garage Logic.

This doctor is a conspiracy nut or something. I have direct knowledge of several south Florida hospitals and the numbers that I know are hospitalized in those jibe with the numbers reported on the Florida dashboard.

The Advil thing may or may not be true. However, I'd think if there was clear evidence or strong suspicion the CDC or NIH would put out a warning not to take Ibuprofen if you have possible symptoms.

It might be a case that most people with fever take an NSAID so the fact that seriously ill patients took Advil is just a coincidence.

 

[solidyne]

My GF was really sick for a couple of weeks after returning home from Florida in late January -- we were at Disney for a week, and then she was in Naples with family for a few more days before heading home. She had a really painful sore throat and essentially all the symptoms of strep throat, but two separate strep tests came back negative. We've wondered if maybe she had Covid-19 and hopefully there will be widespread antibody testing available sometime soon just to check.

Yes, the antibody tests, should they come, will be very revealing.
Also, thumbs up to Naples, my birthplace!

 

[DisneyCane]

This looks promising. 80 patients with 78 having good results

Coronavirus cure: French researchers completed new additional study on 80 patients, results show a combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin to be effective in treating COVID-19 - Tech Startups

On March 19, we published a story about a trial study conducted by French researchers which showed a combination of Hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) and Azithromycin to be effective in the treatment of COVID-19 patients. The study, which was led by renowned Didier Raoult M.D/Ph.D in...

techstartups.com

I'd wait for results from the clinical trial in NY before getting excited.

 

[Josh Hendy]

Based on some of the other articles on that website, I'm not sure it's a very good source. I also can't find anything else to corroborate.

I did just find some interesting information about the French doctor who ran both studies, though -- apparently he's been caught falsifying data before. Removing information that contradicts what he wants to prove, manipulating the data that does exist, etc. and he's also said that he thinks controlled, randomized trials are pointless. All in all, he doesn't sound like the most reliable person.

Yes he seems like a bit of a freak.

I searched at news.google.fr and only found this so far. (Via google translate)

Professor Raoult thanked the Minister of Health for putting this text in place. However, it drastically restricts the prescription of hydroxychloroquine.

The delivery of hydroxychloroquine is now supervised. A decree, published Thursday March 26 in the official journal, authorizes while restricting it, the prescription of this molecule for the treatment of Covid-19. Professor Didier Raoult, who says that hydroxychloroquine can cure the disease against the advice of the majority of the scientific and medical profession, immediately thanked Minister of Health Olivier Véran on his Twitter account for "listening". However, the text more strictly frames and restricts its use. It thus seems to agree with the entire scientific community, which considers that the evidence of an efficacy or ineffectiveness is insufficient to date and that we must await the results of studies carried out in accordance with the protocols usual.