Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[networkpro]

The world's population at the time was a little less than 2 billion. 675,000 Americans died in the 1918 flu pandemic. And it hit healthy young adults pretty hard. Plus, medicine wasn't as advanced as it is now - no public health services, no antiviral medicines, no antibiotics, no vaccines, etc.

Dont forget that the average person never ventured beyond the locality in which they were born so their exposure to viruses and bacteria were limited to that area. Immunity to communicable diseases was very limited. Speed and distance of transmission is limited by the mobility of people which then was at best that of train, horse, a ship, or a walk. Now its from one side of the globe to another is a few hours.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

From my experience with Sandy in the Northeast is that when the big stores run out... go to the small ones. Delis, pharmacies, no-name convenience stores, gas station stores usually still have supplies. There's a lot of people who don't know that WalMart and Target have grocery sections.

Also, unlike natural disasters, the supply chain isn't being destroyed. Once the first round of panic shopping is over, the shelves will refill much faster than with a natural disaster.

Great suggestions. I'm in the Northeast too - our Target and Walmart's food sections have been decimated. Our superintendent of schools is having meetings today with local and state health officials and they seem to be making decisions on a minute-by-minute basis (no, I'm not freaking out...but I know there are plenty of parents around here who are because they closed the schools in town on Friday last week to do what I consider to be a too-early disinfection over the weekend after they got so many calls with concerns). There's a handful of school districts in the state that have shut down for a week or more, and one that has shut down until April 27th...I expect ours will shut-down too, so I'm watching closely.

Have never been a big fan of AARP seem to be more interested in selling you insurance

Agreed.

 

[WEDway Inc & Company LLC]

There are tons of FastPasses right now for really good rides. I'm booking all of them, since they may reopen early. I even got a FOP on April 3rd,

 

[disneygeek90]

President says large scale testing to start soon, " Their response to H1N1 Swine Flu was a full scale disaster, with thousands dying, and nothing meaningful done to fix the testing problem, until now. The changes have been made and testing will soon happen on a very large scale basis. All Red Tape has been cut, ready to go! "

It’s too bad we didn’t have warning so tests could start being prepared before we saw the effects here, huh.

 

[MisterPenguin]

That can definitely vary by experience. After watching how badly Flint was handled (and still is), I always keep a reasonable supply of water on hand.

Yeah... but a viral outbreak doesn't affect the water supply. If you have bad tap, it stays bad. If you have good tap, it stays good.

 

[LAKid53]

When healthcare is free that’s what people do. I once had a patient sign into the ED, get triaged to the end of the line because it was a cold. Then go home, call EMS, come in via ambulance because they thought it would be faster. They still went to the back of the line.

It is incredibly frustrating.

I hope they were stuck with a huge bill for that ambulance... My mother had a massive cerebral aneurysm at home. I'd be beyond angry if the ambulance was delayed because some idiot with a cold wanted to get to the head of the line at the ER.

 

[LAKid53]

I get Springs staying open but why keep the resorts open if the parks are closed? I imagine most everyone that had a trip planned between March 16 through the end of March isn’t going to come down and do a resort only stay.

Guess I could see them trying to entice locals to do a staycation at cheap rates??

Or stay open for a period of time to allow guests to get back home. Think lots of families at WDW for Spring break. Airlines are cancelling flights. It is tough trying to get a flight at the last minute. Plus, there are international guests trying to leave.

 

[Rimmit]

I hope they were stuck with a huge bill for that ambulance... My mother had a massive cerebral aneurysm at home. I'd be beyond angry if the ambulance was delayed because some idiot with a cold wanted to get to the head of the line at the ER.

This was a Medicaid patient. Someone with a $250 copay and conisirance on the ambulance would never do that.

We actually said to him nearly that exact same line. Said you could have cost someone their life.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Lol
It is northeast bias. I live in KY now. Used to live in south bend, IN. I’d go run in shorts if it was 32 when I lived in IN. Now not so much.

Point is many believe warm weather (whether warm is 50-60 or 90-100) will stop this. There is no evidence to suggest that yet.

I think many people are confusing warm late-Spring and Summer weather with humidity. Viruses typically struggle in higher humidity and we see higher humidity in the Spring and Summer. Hopefully that's the case with this one, too, but people thinking that a nice 60 degree day with low humidity is going to make this better are hanging their hats on the wrong hook.

 

[meabfab]

Any word on Tables in Wonderland being extended like Annual Passes?

 

[LAKid53]

14 coronavirus myths busted by science

There's plenty of nonsense about the coronavirus online. Here are some of the biggest COVID-19 myths out there and the science to explain why they aren't true.

www.livescience.com

Not necessarily. To estimate how easily a virus spreads, scientists calculate its "basic reproduction number," or R0 (pronounced R-nought). R0 predicts the number of people who can catch a given bug from a single infected person, Live Science previously reported. Currently, the R0 for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the disease COVID-19, is estimated at about 2.2, meaning a single infected person will infect about 2.2 others, on average. By comparison, the flu has an R0 of 1.3.

And the Novel coronavirus had a higher shed rate than the SARS coronavirus. Thus the increased R0

 

[networkpro]

They had cars and trucks in 1918.

transmission was accelerated because of the global world war.

I'm aware of that, I said average. My great grandfather was pretty well off so they had a model T, but the majority of the population didn't move around much. The roads that were good enough for car and truck travel were not ubiquitous, the majority of people traveled long distance by train or ship.

It wasn't the change of speed that was the acceleration point for the spread, but the number of people which traveled that was the culprit.

 

[LAKid53]

People are hoarding water.
We're not going to run out of running water.
It's crazy.

People are fearful of disruptions to local utilities.

 

[Ponderer]

I think many people are confusing warm late-Spring and Summer weather with humidity. Viruses typically struggle in higher humidity and we see higher humidity in the Spring and Summer. Hopefully that's the case with this one, too, but people thinking that a nice 60 degree day with low humidity is going to make this better are hanging their hats on the wrong hook.

Yup. It's late summer in Australia and COVID is beginning its community spread there. (Some may look at what I think will be overall lower stats, and say it's evidence that heat is killing the virus, but I think it's because Oz has a really aggressive testing regimen going on that's going to pay off in the long run.)

 

[rnese]

It’s too bad we didn’t have warning so tests could start being prepared before we saw the effects here, huh.

Yes. In hind site, a warning would have been great!

 

[LAKid53]

That's supposition based on weak evidence. Buy that logic, the humid tropics and northern climes would have a significantly different rate of transmission, and I've seen no such data that says that's the case.

Darn, I was hoping the misery of Florida heat and humidity would keep us safe...

 

[Lilofan]

Or stay open for a period of time to allow guests to get back home. Think lots of families at WDW for Spring break. Airlines are cancelling flights. It is tough trying to get a flight at the last minute. Plus, there are international guests trying to leave.

That's why the resorts remain open..

 

[VaderTron]

That is a valid concern.

Prove it.

 

[networkpro]

And the Novel coronavirus had a higher shed rate than the SARS coronavirus. Thus the increased R0

This has been proven to have been accelerated by traditional Chinese medicine as well as the typical treatments with modern medicine as practiced in China. Plenty of studies available on the www.thelancet.com

 

[LAKid53]

From my experience with Sandy in the Northeast is that when the big stores run out... go to the small ones. Delis, pharmacies, no-name convenience stores, gas station stores usually still have supplies. There's a lot of people who don't know that WalMart and Target have grocery sections.

Also, unlike natural disasters, the supply chain isn't being destroyed. Once the first round of panic shopping is over, the shelves will refill much faster than with a natural disaster.

I found cleaning wipes and spray at...Staples.