Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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correcaminos

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For kids who are higher risk that's not a bad thing. There are some who exist. Or those who live with high risk families. I see it good for that
 

correcaminos

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That is fair.

My oldest (who is not high risk) has her annual appointment with her pediatrician coming up. I will see what she recommends....
I did my 14yo because cases were skyrocketing badly in Jan when he was allowed and it had been since June from the last shot. I know the few kids who have been boosted and tested positive were so minimal in symptoms I figured why not. Also keep in mind it was more about avoiding missing school too than really worrying. Even as an 8th grader my kid is taking 3 HS courses. My ped was pretty much universally recommending but these are older kids too so asking a doc is wise. Curious if my ped office has remarked on this or not. They're pretty active on social media.
 

Angel Ariel

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For kids who are higher risk that's not a bad thing. There are some who exist. Or those who live with high risk families. I see it good for that
Yep. DD's specialists hadn't felt she needed it earlier as she's not immunocompromised, but has higher risk factors. I'll be checking in with them again.
 

DisneyCane

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I did my 14yo because cases were skyrocketing badly in Jan when he was allowed and it had been since June from the last shot. I know the few kids who have been boosted and tested positive were so minimal in symptoms I figured why not. Also keep in mind it was more about avoiding missing school too than really worrying. Even as an 8th grader my kid is taking 3 HS courses. My ped was pretty much universally recommending but these are older kids too so asking a doc is wise. Curious if my ped office has remarked on this or not. They're pretty active on social media.
Keep in mind that it is unlikely for a pediatrician to not recommend vaccination or boosters. From a liability standpoint, if they don't recommend it and your child gets a rare, serious case of COVID, they are open to a lawsuit. If they recommend to get it and your child has a bad reaction, they were following FDA recommendations and won't be held liable.
 

Nubs70

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I'm not talking about the vaccine in any way. I'm talking about the pediatrician's perspective from a medical legal standpoint. A parent will always have final word, no matter what is recommended by the doctor. I just wouldn't expect to hear a pediatrician recommend against any vaccination unless they are very anti-COVID vax and feel so strongly about it that they don't care about the liability.
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correcaminos

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Ski trip with a goggle tan to reverse it later.
Yes! Another of my favorites is seeing people who wear sunglasses and then burn. They all have that funky line on their nose.

Though if they do bring it back, it wouldn't be outdoors. Last year showed that. So likely no lines to worry about.
 

Heelz2315

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just a weird tan line.....

I read last night in NYC that is in the medium, will probably hit the high category this week. Their Mayor said at that point they'll "recommend" masks not require them indoors. I have a feeling the only way they'll be mandated is if the hospitals get full. That may be what we see across the country. If your area hits "high" transmission, masks will be recommended but not required, unless hospitals get stretched.
 

correcaminos

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I read last night in NYC that is in the medium, will probably hit the high category this week. Their Mayor said at that point they'll "recommend" masks not require them indoors. I have a feeling the only way they'll be mandated is if the hospitals get full. That may be what we see across the country. If your area hits "high" transmission, masks will be recommended but not required, unless hospitals get stretched.
While Columbus mandated masks during omicron's massive surge, most areas here did not. Granted I do a lot of shopping in Columbus so wore a ton, even then most other cities (including my own) did not. Our hospitals were fairly full but not overwhelmed like in 2020. I think it would have to be very bad to mandate. We'll see recommended often though.
 

correcaminos

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Been a while since I popped in this chat. I was at Disney over the weekend for two pretty long days. I'm now positive for the first time and pretty sure that's where I must have gotten it.

Sore throat and mild congestion so far.
Feel better soon!

Over two years. You did well. Feel better soon!
I'm waiting on the shoe to drop here. But not worried. At least my kid made it on his DC trip. I wish I felt I could share a story without outing someone but let's just say no vaccines and refusing to test caused someone I know to keep their kid home from the trip. I'm wondering why they didn't test?
 

jasminethecat

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Each person should ask their family doctor "Will this vaccine actually help ourselves and others, and do the overall benefits to both my family and society outweigh the potential risks to me or my child?" Vaccines are not about each person individually.

I personally feel that anyone who can safely handle a vaccine should get that vaccine. If only the people who are at higher risk get vaccines it misses the point - we need herd immunity to protect the most vulnerable members of society. When the polio vaccine (and MMR, small pox, etc.) first came out, people used to consider it their responsibility to get in line for the vaccine. But that was for a disease which put people in wheelchairs or crutches. You could see it and you felt the suffering when people around you had it. Today people worry more about their individual freedoms at the expense of others' actual health risks. Even above, I see people implying "well it's ok for their kid to get a booster because they're at higher risk". News flash - that kid at higher risk would fare much better if all their classmates were vaccinated and less likely to contract and pass along a disease. And those classmates would be better off if their families and social contacts were all vaccinated. And so on until you reach vaccination status for everyone who can get it.

The idea that some people would want to come to Disney with thousands of other people, and not want to protect themselves and each other...I just don't get it at all. If you seriously cannot get vaccines based on own health and your personal doctor's recommendations, then don't get them. But if that's the case you had better start convincing everyone else around you to get it.
 
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correcaminos

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Trying my best not to throw any fuel on the vaccine fire but I am sure that it will.

Each person should ask their family doctor "Will this vaccine actually help ourselves and others, and do the overall benefits to both my family and society outweigh the potential risks to me or my child?" Vaccines are not about each person individually.

I personally feel that anyone who can safely handle a vaccine should get that vaccine. If only the people who are at higher risk get vaccines it misses the point - we need herd immunity to protect the most vulnerable members of society. When the polio vaccine (and MMR, small pox, etc.) first came out, people used to consider it their responsibility to get in line for the vaccine. But that was for a disease which put people in wheelchairs or crutches. You could see it and you felt the suffering when people around you had it. Today people worry more about their individual freedoms at the expense of others' actual health risks. Even above, I see people implying "well it's ok for their kid to get a booster because they're at higher risk". News flash - that kid at higher risk would fare much better if all their classmates were vaccinated and less likely to contract and pass along a disease. And those classmates would be better off if their families and social contacts were all vaccinated. And so on until you reach vaccination status for everyone who can get it.

The idea that some people would want to come to Disney with thousands of other people, and not want to protect themselves and each other...I just don't get it at all. If you seriously cannot get vaccines based on own health and your personal doctor's recommendations, then don't get them. But if that's the case you had better start convincing everyone else around you to get it.
This is why I am pre-vacation. I did point out that for those poo pooing it, that this is excellent for high risk situations. I personally gave my kid all 3. So making sure you realize that I did not say it was only for high risk. Just one group it does help.

I just know many pediatricians who do not push vaccines as much as other laughed at the post. I also know many parents who didn't vaccinate kids at all for covid and are now dealing with round 2 or whatever.

So if you took my comment as bolded above you should read more of my posts. If not me, then just realize many of us have been attempting to say this for years. Many scoff at the idea though and claim vaccines are never promoted as a community help but individual need. So many do believe that it is individual when groups can help
 
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