Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Joesixtoe]

In order to be able to analyze this data, we need to know the percentage vaccinated in each age group (data that I assume is available). If we take the deaths within 60 days chart, and make the assumption (which is almost certainly wrong) that the deaths within 60 days of a positive COVID test are all due to COVID and look at the 60-69 year old cohort is says that there were 330 deaths in the vaccinated and 43 in the unvaccinated (88.5% in the vaccinated).

If more than 88.5% of 60-69 year old people are vaccinated then it would suggest some level of efficacy. Like I said, I don't think this data can really be used for efficacy analysis because it doesn't seem to me like they are breaking down which deaths were actually caused by COVID.

Maybe if we used a younger age group where the people are far less likely to die from a random cause it could be more accurately estimated from this data. For the 18-29 year old group it shows 13 vaccinated deaths and 6 unvaccinated (68.4%). I'd still need the data for percentage vaccinated to do the calculation.

U.K does have a very high vaccinated rate. Exactly what? I'm not so sure. The two articles I linked talks about the efficacy from 5 months ago, then 2 days ago the same author changes course and talks about how the vaccines help for but a few months. This is the same info I've been reading for about 6 months. The vaccines do help against covid, especially against the wuhan strain, it's just there is more to it than just that.

 

[Joesixtoe]

Where did those charts come from? One of the things that needs to be considered is that we know there will be breakthrough infections and deaths, and as the number of people vaccinated increases, logically you will see more of those deaths in that group since it is larger.

U.K health security agency; COVID-19 vaccine survalence report week 12.
Of course, but at the same time Omicron isn't nearly as deadly as some of the previous strains, so the overall death rate should be lower in any capacity.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I think @wdwmagic should announce that from April 1st - 3rd, the only topic of discussion permitted in this thread is whether masks work or not. We'd hit 6,000 posts in no time.

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How do you think we got to this many posts already? Im willing to bet half the posts have been about that very subject.

 

[DisneyCane]

Next you’ll tell me there’s no Santa, or the tooth fairy isn’t related to Tinker Bell.

Isn't the tooth fairy Tink's second cousin?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Covid hospitalizations now at their lowest level since 4/1/20.

 

[drizgirl]

I'm sure bad interactions happen, but there are also thousands of good ones.

Nothing I have done in my 25+ year career has inspired this much joy in someone. I think it must be fun to be those CM's a lto of the time.

Aurora Triptych by Kevin, on Flickr

Exactly! Those performers love their jobs and are likely more than ready to get back to what they considered the most rewarding part of it.

It's fascinating how so many assume everyone else feels the same about this as they do.

 

[mkt]

Exactly! Those performers love their jobs and are likely more than ready to get back to what they considered the most rewarding part of it.

The ones that remained or agreed to return anyway. Most of the ones that were laid off have gone on to better employment and have no desire to return to Disney.

 

[drizgirl]

The ones that remained or agreed to return anyway. Most of the ones that were laid off have gone on to better employment and have no desire to return to Disney.

Undoubtedly hard to get CMs back to sell popcorn. But I doubt there is a shortage of performers wanting to play characters at Disney.

 

[Thelazer]

The ones that remained or agreed to return anyway. Most of the ones that were laid off have gone on to better employment and have no desire to return to Disney.

Hence the speedy return of the college program.

 

[mkt]

Undoubtedly hard to get CMs back to sell popcorn. But I doubt there is a shortage of performers wanting to play characters at Disney.

There absolutely is.

It's still a low wage unskilled job with management that doesn't appreciate you.

 

[drizgirl]

There absolutely is.

It's still a low wage unskilled job with management that doesn't appreciate you.

Of course it is. But people don’t do it forever and typically aren’t supporting a family playing Mickey or Cinderella. Nobody is forced to do it. If nobody shows up to apply, they will pay more.

 

[Andrew C]

Exactly! Those performers love their jobs and are likely more than ready to get back to what they considered the most rewarding part of it.

It's fascinating how so many assume everyone else feels the same about this as they do.

Some people are happy, joyful and love being around others. Some people are bitter and have a general sense of despise when looking at others...

 

[Tom P.]

Some people are happy, joyful and love being around others. Some people are bitter and have a general sense of despise when looking at others...

We call the latter group "WDWMagic forum members."

 

[mkt]

Of course it is. But people don’t do it forever and typically aren’t supporting a family playing Mickey or Cinderella. Nobody is forced to do it. If nobody shows up to apply, they will pay more.

Exactly, I'm glad we agree.

Also, out of every Disney entertainer I know, not a single one has opted to return to the parks and is working a better job for better pay now.

 

[Andrew C]

We call the latter group "WDWMagic forum members."

Reported!!!

 

[drizgirl]

Exactly, I'm glad we agree.

Also, out of every Disney entertainer I know, not a single one has opted to return to the parks and is working a better job for better pay now.

I don't find that shocking. I have to think along the continuum of entertainment jobs, theme park character is more of a starting level position.

 

[JoeCamel]

Exactly, I'm glad we agree.

Also, out of every Disney entertainer I know, not a single one has opted to return to the parks and is working a better job for better pay now.

Ahh, but do they have a maingate and the joy of working at the mouse house?
They are the magic after all

 

[mkt]

I don't find that shocking. I have to think along the continuum of entertainment jobs, theme park character is more of a starting level position.

Very much bottom.

The ones I personally know used the lockdown to reset their career trajectories and change fields.

Ahh, but do they have a maingate and the joy of working at the mouse house?
They are the magic after all

They probably earn enough to buy APs.

 

[Tom P.]

A bit of good news to add to this thread:

Covid-related hospitalizations, both general and ICU, have hit their lowest level since the CDC began tracking the data in July of 2020.

COVID-19 hospitalizations have hit a pandemic low in the US, data shows

Despite the promising numbers, hospitals are still struggling with staffing shortages and an increasing number of other patients who are sicker upon arrival due to delayed care during the pandemic.

www.wdsu.com

 

[Touchdown]

My area of the state (7 county area) logged for the first time since our first case, zero Covid hospitalizations today.