Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Incomudro

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My patience level for stupidity is a fraction of what it used to be. People speeding, people not using blinkers, people tailgating, people running red lights, people driving way to fast in parking lots, people being rude, people not holding doors, people being obnoxiously loud, etc, etc, etc.

On my days off I do my best not to leave the house unless I have to, or it’s to do something fun like golfing, not because I’m worried about Covid but because people drive me crazy now.
You sound like me, when I leave the house it's to get provisions - a quick strike, and I'm out of the store.
Most other outings for me are bike riding, the beach (weather permitting) and other natural areas like parks.
I generally try to stay away from people, always have.
WDW is a tremendous exception to the way I am.
 

Heppenheimer

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Myocarditis is a reasonably dangerous potential side effect in my book. Ironically that’s the reason I chose the J&J right before they announced the link to GBS.
Myo- and pericarditis are also pretty easy to treat and they doesn't usually cause on-going problems once resolved. You can't say the same for a venous thrombosis, although this side effect was mostly limited to women of reproductive age with J&J.
 

ajksmom

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While we're still fighting over masks and what Faucci said or didn't say (this seems like, so 2020...), I'm not sure if anyone saw this news item:


The article doesn't go into the reasoning why they stopped making the vaccine, but most likely because it seems to have become the least favored of those that are currently approved (that's my anecdotal observation). J&J's efficacy is somewhat lower than the two mRNA vaccines, and its the only one that has a reasonably dangerous potential side effect, although rare. With better options that have substantially cheaper production costs, I can understand why demand might be far less robust than for the mRNA formulations.
Have no link as I heard it on my morning news..Production has been paused but is set to resume in March. It was reported that they are (and have been since December) producing batches of another vaccine. Speculated it is their RSV vaccine for trials. Hope this helps.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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While we're still fighting over masks and what Faucci said or didn't say (this seems like, so 2020...), I'm not sure if anyone saw this news item:


The article doesn't go into the reasoning why they stopped making the vaccine, but most likely because it seems to have become the least favored of those that are currently approved (that's my anecdotal observation). J&J's efficacy is somewhat lower than the two mRNA vaccines, and its the only one that has a reasonably dangerous potential side effect, although rare. With better options that have substantially cheaper production costs, I can understand why demand might be far less robust than for the mRNA formulations.
That’s unfortunate, more choices is a good thing. My girlfriend has some medical conditions (allergies and a heart condition managed with medication) and her doctor advised her J&J was her safest option. She’s had 2 doses (original plus booster) with no side effects at all.

She’ll have to consult with her doctor again to see if she can safely take one of the others or she may be out of luck if they recommend another booster.
 

Kevin_W

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That’s unfortunate, more choices is a good thing. My girlfriend has some medical conditions (allergies and a heart condition managed with medication) and her doctor advised her J&J was her safest option. She’s had 2 doses (original plus booster) with no side effects at all.

She’ll have to consult with her doctor again to see if she can safely take one of the others or she may be out of luck if they recommend another booster.

A coworker of my wife was in a similar situation - allergic to something in the mRNA vaccines, so she waited for the J&J. I suppose there are still several other vaccines around the world, they just might be hard to get.
 

Polkadotdress

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That’s unfortunate, more choices is a good thing. My girlfriend has some medical conditions (allergies and a heart condition managed with medication) and her doctor advised her J&J was her safest option. She’s had 2 doses (original plus booster) with no side effects at all.

She’ll have to consult with her doctor again to see if she can safely take one of the others or she may be out of luck if they recommend another booster.

A coworker of my wife was in a similar situation - allergic to something in the mRNA vaccines, so she waited for the J&J. I suppose there are still several other vaccines around the world, they just might be hard to get.
Novovax just submitted for approval in the US. It’s a traditional type of vaccine. Perhaps that will work for those who can’t take the MRNA ones?
 

Heppenheimer

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Have no link as I heard it on my morning news..Production has been paused but is set to resume in March. It was reported that they are (and have been since December) producing batches of another vaccine. Speculated it is their RSV vaccine for trials. Hope this helps.
An RSV vaccine would be huge. It would probably eliminate a pretty large percentage of pediatric ER visits, especially in the winter.
 

Heppenheimer

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That’s unfortunate, more choices is a good thing. My girlfriend has some medical conditions (allergies and a heart condition managed with medication) and her doctor advised her J&J was her safest option. She’s had 2 doses (original plus booster) with no side effects at all.

She’ll have to consult with her doctor again to see if she can safely take one of the others or she may be out of luck if they recommend another booster.
Having a "heart condition" (which could mean anything) shouldn't mean she can't get an mRNA vaccine. The risk for myocarditis is extremely low. J&J may have been "safer" by a very marginal difference.

If it was a true allergy to an mRNA vaccine component, though, that would be an absolute contra-indication.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Having a "heart condition" (which could mean anything) shouldn't mean she can't get an mRNA vaccine. The risk for myocarditis is extremely low. J&J may have been "safer" by a very marginal difference.

If it was a true allergy to an mRNA vaccine component, though, that would be an absolute contra-indication.
I don’t know if it was the allergies or the medication, I just know she was originally very worried she wouldn’t be able to get a vaccine but her doctor approved her for J&J. she had to get both shots at the hospital though so she had immediate access to emergency care if she had a bad reaction (which probably means allergies), I just know it’s a pain compared to how simple it was for me to go to CVS for my booster.
 

Heppenheimer

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Perhaps someone’s doctor is in a better position than you to make that call?

You continue to downplay the very real concern of myocarditis.
Because I have experience treating it, and despite the scary sound, it really is a self-limited and mild condition in most cases, especially in the almost exclusively young people observed to have the side effect from the vaccines at a reported rate of 20-50 per million.
 

Mark52479

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I dont know, this time around places and States are just NOT waiting to hit the CDC required numbers anymore.

I think we can throw all these positivity numbers right out the window now.



I see NO chance at all Universal waiting for Orange County to go into the "moderate or low" level. And, I am going to go out on a limb here and say DISNEY also WILL NOT wait this time around.
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

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I dont know, this time around places and States are just NOT waiting to hit the CDC required numbers anymore.

I think we can throw all these positivity numbers right out the window now.



I see NO chance at all Universal waiting for Orange County to go into the "moderate or low" level. And, I am going to go out on a limb here and say DISNEY also WILL NOT wait this time around.

I completely agree, Nevadas followed the CDC mask guidelines for nearly two years and we just ended them despite still being at or near the delta peak in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths and a 25% positivity rate. (Although massively down from the Omicron peak a few weeks ago).
 
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Mark52479

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I completely agree, Nevadas followed the CDC mask guidelines for nearly two years and we just ended them despite still being at or near the delta peak in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths and a 25% positivity rate. (Although massively down from the Omicron peak a few weeks ago).

The political winds have changed and despite no one reaching the previous milestones set for eliminating mask mandates the dominoes are falling.
I just saw that on the news about the Las Vegas casinos no more masks.

That is a big one for sure.
 
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