I've known Marcia (The Mom) for more than half of my life. That's longer than I knew my actual birth mother. I don't take kindly to people who disrespect her.
Saying that, if this was a joke, I retract my angry react.
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Saying that, if this was a joke, I retract my angry react.
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JoeCamel
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And that is why you are so good at what you do.I took it as "How can you deal with all of these posters year after year and still keep your sanity?" The poster and I may not always agree, but I do not think that he would purposely insult me. Now, other posters ........
But I can also see how others might view it as an insult, as I make no secret of the fact I've been here for 20+ years and am what many consider elderly. That is, until you reach my age and still feel pretty much the same as 30 years ago.
EpcoTim
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You joined less than 2 years before me so let’s just say this placed started in 2019. You really are perfect in your role here, so much so that I thought you were an automated bot for awhile. Cheers to you, thanks for all you’ve done.I took it as "How can you deal with all of these posters year after year and still keep your sanity?" The poster and I may not always agree, but I do not think that he would purposely insult me. Now, other posters ........
But I can also see how others might view it as an insult, as I make no secret of the fact I've been here for 20+ years and am what many consider elderly. That is, until you reach my age and still feel pretty much the same as 30 years ago.
Thank you so much. And I'm far from perfect but do try to be fair.
I joined in the previous forum, and then the clock was reset in 2001, so I've been here for more than 20 years. I think I became a moderator sometime around 2005?
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98% of MIS-C Hospitalizations Were Unvaccinated Pediatric Patients
Pediatric COVID and MIS-C hospitalizations remain low, especially for those who are vaccinated.
epicresearch.org
Of children hospitalized with multi-system inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C), a serious condition associated with COVID-19, 98% were unvaccinated, according to a study from Epic Research. The study revealed that unvaccinated children with mild COVID-19 symptoms were more at risk for MIS-C. Of the 1,499 pediatric hospitalizations for MIS-C, 1,474 (98%) were unvaccinated. This is a factor as the FDA considers approving Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for children 4 and younger.
COVID-19 tracker: Japan cancels part of AZ vaccine order
As the COVID-19 pandemic continues to unfold, we're tracking the biopharma industry's response here. | As the COVID-19 pandemic continues to unfold, we're tracking the biopharma industry's response here.
Interesting, but I don't understand how double the number of cases of MIS-C to pediatric cases with Covid-19. So half of them didn't have Covid-19? I was under the impression that MIS-C was a complication stemming from Covid-19. So how could half the cases studies has MIS-C but not Covid-19?98% of MIS-C Hospitalizations Were Unvaccinated Pediatric Patients
Pediatric COVID and MIS-C hospitalizations remain low, especially for those who are vaccinated.
Of children hospitalized with multi-system inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C), a serious condition associated with COVID-19, 98% were unvaccinated, according to a study from Epic Research. The study revealed that unvaccinated children with mild COVID-19 symptoms were more at risk for MIS-C. Of the 1,499 pediatric hospitalizations for MIS-C, 1,474 (98%) were unvaccinated. This is a factor as the FDA considers approving Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for children 4 and younger.
COVID-19 tracker: Japan cancels part of AZ vaccine order
As the COVID-19 pandemic continues to unfold, we're tracking the biopharma industry's response here. | As the COVID-19 pandemic continues to unfold, we're tracking the biopharma industry's response here.www.fiercepharma.com
Yawn. Co-vid is recessing now and people, children whatever get viruses.
Couple of stories. Daughter who is 16 had something wrong with her, maybe flu maybe strep throat? Off to the doctor's, negative for strep, doctor said no point testing for the flu because I can't do anything bout that. Wife and daughter the decide to go get a covid test. 5 days later result comes in negative. Daughter had already gone back to school by the time we got the result and in the end who knows what was wrong with her but it did go away. Will she have something for life after whatever she had? Maybe who knows? She's 16, she may have picked up Herpes this weekend? That's a life long thing.....
My parents are in their 80's and got so annoying that my brother and I stopped talking to them over covid. They were in a panic, we have kids, jobs etc. with the fact that we can't just hide out for 6 months or a year or whatever time period. Oh, another fact. Covid kills the old and the weak which is not us. When the parents could get a vaccine they annoyed us again till I pointed out, only old people can get a vaccine, not us. Parents didn't even figure that in. In their world everyone is old. Everyone could get a vaccine, parents ramped it up again from their 55 and up age restricted community. That's when we stopped talking to them, the panic was just over the top. Sorry you don't get your number answered when you call. End result at the 55 and up community was the death rate stayed about the same, people die all the time in those places. Final straw was when my Dad's friend who was double vaccinated and boosted die of covid in a day or two. He was 87. Well parents shut up about covid, not a peep now. They packed up and headed for Florida for a month along with a week at Disney World. Maskless state with tourist, mixing of people in close quarters etc, etc. They have years left in their life, I guess it finally hit them that hiding out away from the world wasn't the way they wanted to die? They don't have long left no matter what happens.
The virus thing has to end, damage is being done on a large scale that doesn't need to be done. Stop this virus non sense, you can't fight it.
Couple of stories. Daughter who is 16 had something wrong with her, maybe flu maybe strep throat? Off to the doctor's, negative for strep, doctor said no point testing for the flu because I can't do anything bout that. Wife and daughter the decide to go get a covid test. 5 days later result comes in negative. Daughter had already gone back to school by the time we got the result and in the end who knows what was wrong with her but it did go away. Will she have something for life after whatever she had? Maybe who knows? She's 16, she may have picked up Herpes this weekend? That's a life long thing.....
My parents are in their 80's and got so annoying that my brother and I stopped talking to them over covid. They were in a panic, we have kids, jobs etc. with the fact that we can't just hide out for 6 months or a year or whatever time period. Oh, another fact. Covid kills the old and the weak which is not us. When the parents could get a vaccine they annoyed us again till I pointed out, only old people can get a vaccine, not us. Parents didn't even figure that in. In their world everyone is old. Everyone could get a vaccine, parents ramped it up again from their 55 and up age restricted community. That's when we stopped talking to them, the panic was just over the top. Sorry you don't get your number answered when you call. End result at the 55 and up community was the death rate stayed about the same, people die all the time in those places. Final straw was when my Dad's friend who was double vaccinated and boosted die of covid in a day or two. He was 87. Well parents shut up about covid, not a peep now. They packed up and headed for Florida for a month along with a week at Disney World. Maskless state with tourist, mixing of people in close quarters etc, etc. They have years left in their life, I guess it finally hit them that hiding out away from the world wasn't the way they wanted to die? They don't have long left no matter what happens.
The virus thing has to end, damage is being done on a large scale that doesn't need to be done. Stop this virus non sense, you can't fight it.
TP2000
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Stop being so rational, mature, and analytic. It doesn't play well on Twitter.
In happier news, wait until she becomes a senior citizen and she can get the Shingrix vaccine. I had cold sores once or twice per year since my wild years in the 1970's/80's. I kind of liked getting a cold sore every six months or so, because it would remind me of a fun Saturday night I'd apparently had many decades ago.
But then I got the new Shingles vaccine, Shingrix, a few years ago and... poof! The cold sores went away. The medical community is still trying to figure that out, because that's not what Shingrix was supposed to cure. But a growing number of people who've been immunized with Shingrix report no more cold sores. Surprise!
The damage we have done to an entire generation of school-aged American children is criminal. That will truly be the lasting legacy of Covid, at least in the parts of the country where schools were closed and re-closed for almost two full years. It's criminal, and will cause lasting damage to an entire generation in many communities.
Jrb1979
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It is ending soon. Maybe if you youngins got vaccinated hospitals wouldn't be so overwhelmed and we could end it sooner. I have never seen so many young people afraid of a needle in my life.
TBH I can't stand this "What about the children" nonsense. And I can't stand parents who send their snot nosed little to school when sick.
My 80 something parents aren't going to FL. But my mom has been in cancer treatment and still scoffs at what has gone on. Stopped at a restaurant on her way home from treatment last week. Of course I have mixed feelings about it. But she's staring at the end of life regardless. So I'm glad she's still doing a few small things that make her happy. She's fully vaxed and boosted and wears a mask and she skipped the large family Christmas gathering. But she also goes on about her life. And while I have moments of doubt, I understand and support that.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
That was the reasoning behind keeping schools closed right? That sure backfired.
Also..."what about the children" is definitely not nonsense in the context of below...
Kids are back in school — and struggling with mental health issues
This school year was supposed to bring a return to normalcy. But the stress of transitioning back to in-person learning and the ever-changing pandemic has caused a surge in mental health needs.
www.npr.org
NBC 10 I-Team: Mental health crisis in children spurs psychiatric bed shortage
The number of children winding up in emergency rooms is skyrocketing, but injuries and illnesses aren't solely to blame. There’s a mental health crisis involving kids and it’s hitting Southern New England hard. “Anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation have been among the most common...
turnto10.com
Youth mental health: My young clients build a coping tool box. It's a simple way to help.
Mental health is declining in the pandemic, and young children are showing clear signs of illness. A simple toolbox can help relieve stress.
www.usatoday.com
Canada needs national standards to tackle kid’s mental health challenges: experts - National | Globalnews.ca
Concern about the mental health challenges of young Canadians has been growing during the nearly two years of disruptions and repeated isolation during the COVID-19 pandemic.
globalnews.ca
DisneyFan32
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On the cusp of the third year of the COVID-19 pandemic, the United States is battling back the biggest surge of the virus yet with the omicron variant.
Cases, even while receding in some places, are near record levels. And daily deaths, while lower than the peak of last winter, are still averaging more than 2,000 nationwide.
Despite pitched battles over masks and vaccines, life appears somewhat normal in many respects -- kids are going to school, people are going into work and large indoor gatherings and events are being held.
So, while it may be hard to imagine, many experts suggest 2022 could be the year COVID becomes an endemic disease, meaning it is always circulating within the population but at low rates or causing just seasonal outbreaks.
MORE: 2 years after COVID first hit the US, hundreds of thousands of Americans are still falling ill
During a press conference Wednesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious diseases expert, said the U.S. can get "sufficient control" over COVID-19 so it "does not disrupt us in society, does not dominate our lives, not prevent us [from doing] the things that we generally do under normal existence."
This is because the virus will start running out of people to infect as people become immune and follow mitigation measures such as mask-wearing and testing if they have symptoms.
"We have the tools with vaccines, with boosts, with masks, with tests and with antivirals," Fauci said.
As an endemic disease, COVID-19 would shift from becoming a global health emergency to a virus that the world learns to live with.
Public health experts say many societal changes are needed for a time when the virus circulates but is not as disruptive, such as targeted testing, more vaccination, better treatments and allowances for staying home when you're sick.
"We really need to be shifting our thinking to how do we live with this virus rather than can we make it completely go away," Dr. Timothy Brewer, a professor of epidemiology at UCLA Fielding School of Public Health, told ABC News. "So I think we need to sort of move into the mode of minimizing the impact of the virus as much as possible in terms of health, economic and social disruption -- recognizing this virus is going to be there."
People who are sick will be advised to stay home or wear masks in public
When the virus does become endemic, experts say people will be advised not go into school or work while sick and instead stay home, unlike before the pandemic.
If you have to leave the house, it could remain common to wear a mask on public transit or in indoor spaces.
MORE: Worker shortages, flight delays contributing to slow delivery of rapid tests
"It will become a culture of if you're sick you stay home," Dr. Wafaa El-Sadr, a professor of epidemiology and medicine at Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health, told ABC News. "Don't come to work, don't go to school, don't send your kids to school. There will be more of an appreciation of the collective responsibility that we have for each other."
Currently, federal law does not require employers to provide paid sick leave to employees although some states, such as California, New York and Washington, have laws requiring it.
Antivirals may become more common in doctor's offices and hospitals
In addition to vaccines, some antiviral treatments, from Pfizer and Merck, have come out in the past several months, specifically for those who test positive or had symptoms recently developed.
Studies have shown that these antivirals can help prevent hospitalization, especially those who are at high risk of severe illness.
Experts stress that even after the emergency phase is over, antivirals should not be considered a substitute for vaccines, but rather an extra layer of protection, specifically for at-risk groups.
"The distribution of antivirals is really important in terms of making sure immunocompromised people and people with disabilities have that sort of protection," Abdulah Shihipar, a public health researcher at Brown University, told ABC News.
Brewer agrees and says he thinks the treatments for COVID-19 will be similar to those for HIV in that they will get better and better over time.
"HIV is no less pathogenic today than it was 40 years ago but the difference is we have very effective treatments, we have excellent antivirals against HIV," he said. "So I think as antivirals become available that they will play a very important role" in combating COVID-19.
Shihipar says he hopes the federal government comes up with a long-term plan for distribution whether that means a program people can sign up for to get cheap subsidized drugs, setting up at pharmacies, delivering it to rural areas and so on.
Testing will be more strategic such as just screening people with symptoms
Currently, the U.S. has a model based on two types of testing: diagnostic for symptomatic people to see if they are positive for COVID, and preventive for asymptomatic people to make sure they are not infected before participating in activities or seeing others.
But in a world in which COVID-19 is more seasonal of a virus, experts say the country will have to shift to more focused testing, particularly focusing on the symptomatic.
MORE: As new variants emerge, US government turns attention to a universal coronavirus vaccine
"Now we kind of test just to test everybody, it should be more focused," said El-Sadr. "For people who are symptomatic, if you have symptoms, it is a good idea to get tested, absolutely. So I think focusing on people who are asymptomatic will be very important."
Right now, an average of 1.7 million tests is being administered per day in the U.S., according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Experts say that, during peaks, a minimum of 2 million is needed to keep up with demand. Supplies have been short in some cases as manufacturers ramp up production of at-home tests and omicron redefines infection levels in the country.
El-Sadr also says testing can be used for specific high-risk activities such as eating indoors with family members who are unvaccinated or having a social gathering with someone who is immunosuppressed as opposed to generally for indoor gatherings.
"We have to think of what is the strategic use of testing," El-Sadr added.
Brewer believes testing programs currently in place at schools, such as students testing before returning and then undergoing weekly testing, won't work in the long run.
"It's logistically and financially too cumbersome and expensive and slow," he said. "Given that we know up to 40% or more of people can be asymptomatic when infected and we know asymptomatic people can spread disease, we just kind of need to operate under the assumption that anyone is potentially infected and do things like hand hygiene and vaccination rather than relying on a testing strategy."
Improved ventilation standards in workplaces and schools could be implemented
Experts say that improving indoor air quality will be one of the most important tasks, specifically as states begin to roll back mandates and mitigation measures.
Making sure indoor air is being recirculated will lower rates of cases and prevent outbreaks.
MORE: US COVID-19 vaccine booster drive slows, with 85 million eligible Americans still without their extra shot
Shihipar says the Occupational Safety and Health Administration had standards for health care settings (which have since expired) that need to be expanded to all workplaces.
"We need to change the way we deal with indoor air, like how do we properly ventilate these spaces -- not just for COVID but for flu and all these other diseases," he said. "How do we make the air cleaner so that the disease spreads less?"
He continued, "We need emergency temporary workplace standards from OSHA. One for all workers would actually regulate employers to make their workplaces safe in terms of ventilation, in terms of capacity."
Shihipar added that he'd like to see the government giving each teacher a certain number of portable air filters for their rooms and the governments and setting up clear standards of air regulation for school districts.
We may need annual COVID vaccines
Experts have suggested that annual COVID-19 vaccines, just like the flu shot, could become a reality in a world where the virus is endemic to keep antibody levels high.
They could even be adapted to combat variants just the flu shot is manufactured to combat which strains researchers think will be the most dominant.
Brewer said it will depend on two factors: how long immunity lasts after vaccination and how much the virus changes.
Seriously. Maybe some just think this stuff is fake news or something? Belittling it with "what about the children" comments is so sad.That was the reasoning behind keeping schools closed right? That sure backfired.
Also..."what about the children" is definitely not nonsense in the context of below...
Kids are back in school — and struggling with mental health issues
This school year was supposed to bring a return to normalcy. But the stress of transitioning back to in-person learning and the ever-changing pandemic has caused a surge in mental health needs.NBC 10 I-Team: Mental health crisis in children spurs psychiatric bed shortage
The number of children winding up in emergency rooms is skyrocketing, but injuries and illnesses aren't solely to blame. There’s a mental health crisis involving kids and it’s hitting Southern New England hard. “Anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation have been among the most common...Youth mental health: My young clients build a coping tool box. It's a simple way to help.
Mental health is declining in the pandemic, and young children are showing clear signs of illness. A simple toolbox can help relieve stress.www.usatoday.comCanada needs national standards to tackle kid’s mental health challenges: experts - National | Globalnews.ca
Concern about the mental health challenges of young Canadians has been growing during the nearly two years of disruptions and repeated isolation during the COVID-19 pandemic.
correcaminos
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I'm a parent and legit care about kids a lot. Right now I find the old arguments from 2020 to be tiresome to read about. Why? Because what happened in 2020 and even a little into 2021 is not happening. I'm sure some places might be certain ways, but as a whole not only are kids in schools but many don't even mandate masks let alone quarantine for no symptoms. Sorry to say that if your kid has symptoms they need to test. Crap we just did it because my kid developed a stuffy nose after doing a Iditarod type campout in single degree temps.
There is a moderate level here people need to be honest about. Yes, schools here are randomly shutting down when they have staff absences of like 10% or more, but they are trying. Many schools now have many more mental health specialists on hand or associated with than before. But I will be honest, if we think the increase in childhood mental health issues are pandemic only, then we are absolutely missing reality too.
So yes, I'm so sick of the 2020 excuses and crying think of the children when situations being brought up here even by some posters are not the reality. We're in a different world than we were in 2020. If you don't believe me I'll show you the differences in shows we put on and how many concerts we've had this year vs last. The children are not being forgotten. But if adults cannot behave and keep other safer, then we will have excessive spread and schools will be closed for a few days.
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Heppenheimer
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I can't like these two sentences enough.
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