Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Heelz2315

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So if anyone knows an email address to Dr Pam Hymel. She is the WD Co Chief Medical Officer. I have a hunch she'd know how they decide to impose or relax covid measures in the parks. I looked but can't find one anywhere. Not that she'd actually answer but it'd be worth a shot.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

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lazyboy97o said:
How? We’ve seen excessive illness shut all sorts of places down over and over again. Just ignoring it and making teachers work when sick isn’t going to work in either the short term or the long term.
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Preemptively closing schools (or not reopening after holiday break) due to community spread, in order to "slow community spread", when most of your kids live below the poverty line is insanity. Unions making ever changing demands (while refusing to reopen) when their schools have already created a low risk environment is insanity.
 
Tony the Tigger

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GuyFawkes said:
Yawn. Co-vid is recessing now and people, children whatever get viruses.

Couple of stories. Daughter who is 16 had something wrong with her, maybe flu maybe strep throat? Off to the doctor's, negative for strep, doctor said no point testing for the flu because I can't do anything bout that. Wife and daughter the decide to go get a covid test. 5 days later result comes in negative. Daughter had already gone back to school by the time we got the result and in the end who knows what was wrong with her but it did go away. Will she have something for life after whatever she had? Maybe who knows? She's 16, she may have picked up Herpes this weekend? That's a life long thing.....

My parents are in their 80's and got so annoying that my brother and I stopped talking to them over covid. They were in a panic, we have kids, jobs etc. with the fact that we can't just hide out for 6 months or a year or whatever time period. Oh, another fact. Covid kills the old and the weak which is not us. When the parents could get a vaccine they annoyed us again till I pointed out, only old people can get a vaccine, not us. Parents didn't even figure that in. In their world everyone is old. Everyone could get a vaccine, parents ramped it up again from their 55 and up age restricted community. That's when we stopped talking to them, the panic was just over the top. Sorry you don't get your number answered when you call. End result at the 55 and up community was the death rate stayed about the same, people die all the time in those places. Final straw was when my Dad's friend who was double vaccinated and boosted die of covid in a day or two. He was 87. Well parents shut up about covid, not a peep now. They packed up and headed for Florida for a month along with a week at Disney World. Maskless state with tourist, mixing of people in close quarters etc, etc. They have years left in their life, I guess it finally hit them that hiding out away from the world wasn't the way they wanted to die? They don't have long left no matter what happens.

The virus thing has to end, damage is being done on a large scale that doesn't need to be done. Stop this virus non sense, you can't fight it.
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That’s a shame.

I agree with your parents.
 
correcaminos

correcaminos

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Heelz2315 said:
So if anyone knows an email address to Dr Pam Hymel. She is the WD Co Chief Medical Officer. I have a hunch she'd know how they decide to impose or relax covid measures in the parks. I looked but can't find one anywhere. Not that she'd actually answer but it'd be worth a shot.
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They will appreciate your input and give vague conditions they will look at in order to drop mask requirements. That's as much as they'd ever give. No one wants that public in case something changes.
 
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Heelz2315

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helenabear said:
They will appreciate your input and give vague conditions they will look at in order to drop mask requirements. That's as much as they'd ever give. No one wants that public in case something changes.
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All I'm after is what metrics do they use? Is it the CDC/local? A combination of both? If so both would have justified dropping them last fall, though they never did. Just trying to gauge how or IF a spring/summer vacation could be in the works for us. I'd just like to enjoy as close to a pre covid vacation as I can. (which would include no masks on property)
 
correcaminos

correcaminos

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Heelz2315 said:
All I'm after is what metrics do they use? Is it the CDC/local? A combination of both? If so both would have justified dropping them last fall, though they never did. Just trying to gauge how or IF a spring/summer vacation could be in the works for us. I'd just like to enjoy as close to a pre covid vacation as I can. (which would include no masks on property)
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You think they'd let that go public even if they have a set in stone rubric to use? They chose not to add in the fall immediately likely to make sure they didn't have to flip flop. It is much easier to keep rules excessively vs go back and forth all the time. I know you want an idea but a magic 8 ball might be your best bet.
 
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mmascari

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Heelz2315 said:
All I'm after is what metrics do they use? Is it the CDC/local? A combination of both? If so both would have justified dropping them last fall, though they never did. Just trying to gauge how or IF a spring/summer vacation could be in the works for us. I'd just like to enjoy as close to a pre covid vacation as I can. (which would include no masks on property)
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Even if they have some metric they're following internally already, it could change tomorrow and no longer be what they follow anymore.

They best you can guess is they'll drop them when they drop them. If that's a hard requirement, I wouldn't book anything yet. Otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

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Quoting a news article: If you have to leave the house, it could remain common to wear a mask on public transit or in indoor spaces.
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If that's the news and we're at "It is what it is" time, they may never drop them for indoor spaces.
 
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mmascari said:
Even if they have some metric they're following internally already, it could change tomorrow and no longer be what they follow anymore.

They best you can guess is they'll drop them when they drop them. If that's a hard requirement, I wouldn't book anything yet. Otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.



If that's the news and we're at "It is what it is" time, they may never drop them for indoor spaces.
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I don't want to wear mask on trains anymore after this pandemic is finally over.
 
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Heelz2315

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mmascari said:
They best you can guess is they'll drop them when they drop them. If that's a hard requirement, I wouldn't book anything yet. Otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
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I haven't booked anything yet. But I'd like to go around mid April, or at least be able to plan. That knowledge would help a ton. But then again these days it seems as if Disney doesn't care who shows up when. I feel often like they're trying to run people off instead of inviting them to come back
 
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mmascari

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Heelz2315 said:
I haven't booked anything yet. But I'd like to go around mid April, or at least be able to plan. That knowledge would help a ton. But then again these days it seems as if Disney doesn't care who shows up when. I feel often like they're trying to run people off instead of inviting them to come back
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We're not going to know if there will still be indoor masking in mid April until mid April.

Any prediction or announcement they could make today would be just as likely to be wrong. Hence, they're not going to announce a plan that far out. They're more likely to announce a plan dropping them a few weeks later at at time when most people think the announcement could be immediately.

There's only two scenarios possible here.
1 - Let's say they announce today that come April 1, they're dropping all masks.
1B - They say that based on some condition being true, say cases below X/100K.
2 - They say nothing until we get there.
2B - They say masks will be around all the time going forward, right up until they change their minds.

So, if you get 1 or 1B, plan your trip based on masks being gone and you're all happy. Then something happens in the middle of March. We don't drop fast enough and just linger at a higher level not getting to X when predicted, some new variant shows up and creates chaos, all the unvaccinated in the country move to the Orlando area in March creating a super spread local area but reducing transmission everywhere else. Whatever, something that changes the plan and they don't drop them or drop and bring them back. Everyone who booked because of that announcement is upset.

While option 2 is disappointing for those wanting to drop the masks, it's at least honest. Nobody is going to book something and then be upset afterwards saying conditions changed and they wouldn't have booked if they knew it.

I am booked for the summer, and I hope that transmission is low enough by then. I feel pretty good that it'll be lower than one of the spikes now, but you never know, could just end up in the middle of the next (or one after) spike.
 
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DisneyFan32

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mmascari said:
We're not going to know if there will still be indoor masking in mid April until mid April.

Any prediction or announcement they could make today would be just as likely to be wrong. Hence, they're not going to announce a plan that far out. They're more likely to announce a plan dropping them a few weeks later at at time when most people think the announcement could be immediately.

There's only two scenarios possible here.
1 - Let's say they announce today that come April 1, they're dropping all masks.
1B - They say that based on some condition being true, say cases below X/100K.
2 - They say nothing until we get there.
2B - They say masks will be around all the time going forward, right up until they change their minds.

So, if you get 1 or 1B, plan your trip based on masks being gone and you're all happy. Then something happens in the middle of March. We don't drop fast enough and just linger at a higher level not getting to X when predicted, some new variant shows up and creates chaos, all the unvaccinated in the country move to the Orlando area in March creating a super spread local area but reducing transmission everywhere else. Whatever, something that changes the plan and they don't drop them or drop and bring them back. Everyone who booked because of that announcement is upset.

While option 2 is disappointing for those wanting to drop the masks, it's at least honest. Nobody is going to book something and then be upset afterwards saying conditions changed and they wouldn't have booked if they knew it.

I am booked for the summer, and I hope that transmission is low enough by then. I feel pretty good that it'll be lower than one of the spikes now, but you never know, could just end up in the middle of the next (or one after) spike.
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Hopefully NJ Transit will removing mask mandate for no more masks for trains and buses in months if transmission is low enough in NY/NJ.
 
Disney Glimpses

Disney Glimpses

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How can they continue to consciously require masks of any kind when studies have emerged on the efficacy of cloth masks being minimal at best. Annoyances are fine when they actually work. They are never going to mandate N95 masks.

But for the sake of optics, they will continue to mandate masks even if they know the vast majority of people will wear the one that provides little to no protection? Heck, even the company issued masks are cloth.

I just don't get it. I really, really don't.
 
G00fyDad

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disneyglimpses said:
How can they continue to consciously require masks of any kind when studies have emerged on the efficacy of cloth masks being minimal at best. Annoyances are fine when they actually work. They are never going to mandate N95 masks.

But for the sake of optics, they will continue to mandate masks even if they know the vast majority of people will wear the one that provides little to no protection? Heck, even the company issued masks are cloth.

I just don't get it. I really, really don't.
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We know.
 
correcaminos

correcaminos

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Heelz2315 said:
I haven't booked anything yet. But I'd like to go around mid April, or at least be able to plan. That knowledge would help a ton. But then again these days it seems as if Disney doesn't care who shows up when. I feel often like they're trying to run people off instead of inviting them to come back
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My suggestion is to plan for masks. If it changes for none, you'll be prepared but happy.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

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Meanwhile, trending in the appropriate direction for this wave...
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