Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DisneyCane

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Heelz2315 said:
Thanks! That does give some guidance. Orange Co should hopefully hit the "moderate" category in a month or two, at it's current rate of decent. Hopefully Orange Co lifts it's state of emergency, Orange Co is in the yellow/blue (moderate-low) color by cases, and WDW lifts it's indoor masks.
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At the current rate of decline, OC should get to moderate in a week or two, not a month or two.
 
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Tony the Tigger said:
Just the ones who understand things.
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I mean, a trip to WDW is definitely safer because of indoor masking, but I wouldn't visit anywhere with a large crowd of people without being vaccinated and masking, especially if I were in a high risk group. WDW is especially complicated because folks will be coming from communities with all different vaccination rates.
 
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October82 said:
I mean, a trip to WDW is definitely safer because of indoor masking, but I wouldn't visit anywhere with a large crowd of people without being vaccinated and masking, especially if I were in a high risk group. WDW is especially complicated because folks will be coming from communities with all different vaccination rates.
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Yup, going into these crowds, unvaccinated, is very much an at risk proposition. credit mickeyblog for the picture.
This is not taken on 10/1 as that was even MORE packed. But to assume just because they are in masks it's all safe is a bit silly. Elbow to elbow with cheap cloth masks it's a bit theatrical in terms of safety.
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ABQ said:
Yup, going into these crowds, unvaccinated, is very much an at risk proposition. credit mickeyblog for the picture.
This is not taken on 10/1 as that was even MORE packed. But to assume just because they are in masks it's all safe is a bit silly. Elbow to elbow with cheap cloth masks it's a bit theatrical in terms of safety.
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Correct, it's not the safest possible thing to be doing. The safest thing was going back to monitored capacity levels, restricting park access and requiring masks at all times.

No one wants that. Wearing a mask indoors is a more than reasonable request and no one says that masks are 100% effective. Even if it protects transmission by 20% (just throwing out a number for hypothetical purposes) I think it's still very much worth doing.
 
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mmascari

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ABQ said:
If you say so, though I wouldn't equate "safer" to safe" in that environment. Wouldn't stop me necessarily from going in there, but still, it's dubious to assume that's a covid free environment.
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That was the point. You're also correct, it's probably not "safe" just "safer". The "er" does a lot of the work.

Like all the mitigations, they're not an on and off switch. It's a continuum.

Given that exact room, with those exact people, exactly as pictured. Having most of them in masks is safer than having none of them in masks. It's neither completely safe no completely unsafe either way.

Lots of it depends who those people are, where they're from, what the transmission rate is in the those areas, and how many of them are vaccinated. Lots of things we don't know. If everyone in that room is really from an area of low transmission and they're all vaccinated, the only exposure being the trip to the room, the mask difference may not matter at all. If they're all from areas of high transmission, none of them vaccinated, and they've been hanging out in poorly ventilated bars all week in those areas, then the mask is probably very important.

Neither of those is likely true. Somewhere in the middle. Though, based on the current county picture, they're probably mostly from areas of high transmission.
 
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DisneyFan32

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mmascari said:
That was the point. You're also correct, it's probably not "safe" just "safer". The "er" does a lot of the work.

Like all the mitigations, they're not an on and off switch. It's a continuum.

Given that exact room, with those exact people, exactly as pictured. Having most of them in masks is safer than having none of them in masks. It's neither completely safe no completely unsafe either way.

Lots of it depends who those people are, where they're from, what the transmission rate is in the those areas, and how many of them are vaccinated. Lots of things we don't know. If everyone in that room is really from an area of low transmission and they're all vaccinated, the only exposure being the trip to the room, the mask difference may not matter at all. If they're all from areas of high transmission, none of them vaccinated, and they've been hanging out in poorly ventilated bars all week in those areas, then the mask is probably very important.

Neither of those is likely true. Somewhere in the middle. Though, based on the current county picture, they're probably mostly from areas of high transmission.
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Look, as soon the pandemic close to ending slowly soon, I think by January 2022 or February / March 2022 that federal transportation mask mandate will be lift soon for trains, buses, cruises and planes by March / April 2022.
 
StarWarsGirl

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Heppenheimer said:
Columbus Day holiday, perhaps? For those that actually get the work holiday, it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to take a little more PTO afterwards.
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Or even not if kids had the holiday if parents just decided to take the PTO and pull their kids out for a day or two.

I've encountered a bunch of people off of work this week and we didn't even get the holiday.
 
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