Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Wendy Pleakley]

Hello neighbours.

Proof of vaccination will only be required if a traveller is sent for secondary screening, the government officials said on the call.

I'm surprised proof isn't being required, but I guess the USA continues to be averse to any type of vaccine passport.

It's odd. It's not like it's hard to have people show their phone or a paper vaccination record at the same time they're handing their passport to the border agent.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

It's insane at MK today. I haven't seen crowds like this in years. I wasn't expecting this....

We were at Disneyland this weekend and it was the busiest I’ve seen since pre-pandemic days.

It was frustrating dealing with packed walkways and long lines again but in a weird way it was also kind of nice because it felt “normal”.

 

[Bob Harlem]

Florida's Hospitalizations have dropped another 1000 since last Wednesday.

Orange County hospitalization also has dropped quite a bit in the last few weeks.


and positivity continues to drop.

 

[danlb_2000]

Canada border reopening is great news for Point Roberts...

 

[BrianLo]

But yes, yay for border reopening to make this slightly more on topic!

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Canada border reopening is great news for Point Roberts...

They've been one of the most impacted, and most vocal groups. I read a while back their lone grocery store was in danger of closing.

Ninety percent (!) of their economic activity is Canadian driven.

Point Roberts looking forward to U.S. land border repening to Canadians

News that the U.S. is set to reopen the land border with Canada is being met with relief in Point Roberts, a community hard-hit by the 19-month closure.

www.citynews1130.com

 

[BrianLo]

If the spread is the same once you're there then it isn't safer in general. Also, if there is increased risk on an airplane (which based on air flow and filtration I don't really think is high risk) you are spending at least 3 hours more on board flying to Hawaii.

The queues are the only place with increased risk at WDW vs. Hawaii. However, with the current case rate there is a very small chance that you are within 6 feet of an infected and contagious person while in a queue and an even smaller chance of being within 3 feet which is the current CDC guidance.

Except at MK (although I guess you can walk) you can avoid Disney transportation completely and at MK you can take the ferry to be outdoors.

I haven't been to Florida, but just literally got back from Hawaii. Perceptually I felt very safe there. Between currently low crowds, vaccine passports, vaccine/testing requirements and mostly open air dining/outdoor activities.

It actually felt safer than Canada. Florida seems to be much better than the summer, but the crowding still perceptually bothers me a bit.

 

[Chi84]

Today's news in Chicago: The current president of the Fraternal Order of Police is promising legal action to block the COVID vaccine mandate - on the same day that the former FOP president died from COVID. You couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Heppenheimer]

It varies. Our highways range from 49.7mph - 68.35mph. And generally most will go 10 over the posted KM/H posted limit.

Maybe the Ontario drivers are different than out here in BC, but the drivers out here in BC can be wild. And woe to those who use the passing lane incorrectly.

My experience driving the QEW, 401 and 403 is that Ontario residents usually leave their famed Canadian politeness and friendliness at home when they get in their car.

 

[Patcheslee]

OSHA submitted the initial covid mandate to the Office of Management and Budget yesterday for review. So the information could be made public in the next few weeks. If they time this wrong, the holiday season could see a shortage of workers during the season, making things worse for ones who stick it out.

 

[seascape]

Today's report of Covid19 cases came out and the state is down to a 7 day average of 2,870. That is 13.38 cases per 100k based on the NY Times population est of 21.47 million. The 4 day average is now 10.98 indicating Florida will be in single digits soon.

 

[DisneyCane]

OSHA submitted the initial covid mandate to the Office of Management and Budget yesterday for review. So the information could be made public in the next few weeks. If they time this wrong, the holiday season could see a shortage of workers during the season, making things worse for ones who stick it out.

These things move so slowly that by the time the rules are in place it will either be too late to prevent a winter surge or no longer necessary due to the virus burning out at the current vaccination level.

 

[DisneyCane]

I haven't been to Florida, but just literally got back from Hawaii. Perceptually I felt very safe there. Between currently low crowds, vaccine passports, vaccine/testing requirements and mostly open air dining/outdoor activities.

It actually felt safer than Canada. Florida seems to be much better than the summer, but the crowding still perceptually bothers me a bit.

I think a lot of people are overestimating the risk with crowding. The photo below was taken at the Hard Rock in Hollywood, FL (Broward County) on 10/3. An identical show took place on 10/2. 7,000 people with maybe 5% masked in an indoor environment. From the time of the opening band to the end of the show it was 5 hours. The unmasked audience was singing along and screaming the whole time. Many people would call this a superspreader event. Fauci would have a panic attack.

You can't see me due to the angle but I was near the front and center of the standing room crowd pressed up against each other. I communicate either directly or through a fan message board with many people who attended one of these shows. Nobody reported getting COVID (neither did I). Since these shows took place neither Broward County nor the surrounding counties have shown any reversal of the downward case trend.

While there are more people in the parks at WDW on a given day, none of the indoor environments are as packed as this and the time spent in them is not as long. I think people perceive a risk level that isn't real, indoor masks or not.

 

[DisneyFan32]

These things move so slowly that by the time the rules are in place it will either be too late to prevent a winter surge or no longer necessary due to the virus burning out at the current vaccination level.

If it's too late to prevent a winter surge, then federal transportation mask mandate will extending into April/May 2022, if the virus burning out at the current vaccination level during Winter 2021-2022, I think federal transportation mask mandate will might lifted for masks to be removed for trains, buses, cruises and planes by Spring 2022.

 

[Gringrinngghost]

A little speculation. I wouldn’t be surprised if Typhoon Lagoon will be open by Christmas. Last I heard they are filling the pools back up.

 

[Heppenheimer]

A little speculation. I wouldn’t be surprised if Typhoon Lagoon will be open by Christmas. Last I heard they are filling the pools back up.

I wonder if labor is the primary reason why it hasn't re-opened yet.

 

[Rescue Ranger]

I noticed a lot of effects and things not working in Pandora at AK yesterday. Notably the water shooting snails, glowing effects and the giant Flaska Plant.

I hope these get repaired/fixed and don't just get ignored. Stuff like this bothers me because I feel regular maintenance would avoid all this and ignoring it will just make it worse.

 

[The Mom]

I've tried to put the thread back on track, as highway speed limits, traffic, etc really have little - or no - relation to Covid and WDW.

 

[Gringrinngghost]

I wonder if labor is the primary reason why it hasn't re-opened yet.

One thing to add, procurement of parts and such have been a nightmare across the board for a lot of things.