Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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manmythlegend

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DVCakaCarlF said:
Not to freak anyone out, but I happened to be on TripAdvisor and there is a general note above the Disney hotels that says “closed through 7/30/2020.” This was for both Poly and Contemporary.

I’m just trying not to throw up right now.
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Based on commentary from those who makes decisions and the constant postponement of dates, I am now of the belief that Disney won't re-open until we have a vaccine. So 2020 probably isn't going to happen and much of 2021 may not either.
 
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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jensenrick said:
As someone who works in Florida hospital lab, I can say that you have all of this pretty much correct-
13 minutes per test, 1 test at a time per instrument, about the correct price per test (does NOT include the instruments, which we also run Flu A&B, RSV, and Strep Rapid on).

But what so many do not recognize is the rapid test is a complicated procedure with 3 minute warming period, a precised mixing time, and a 10 minute incubation, for which you need (in most states, FL being one) Qualified Medical Lab Technologists (someone with a MLT degree, certified and licensed by the state) to be able to administer these tests. These are not waived tests, and the byproducts of these tests can be highly infectious (since the test method amplifies the RNA in the sample) and said byproducts must be sealed and placed in large, leakproof, puncture proof, medical hazardous waste disposal units. All MLTs that are running covid on the analyzer, (and everyone nearby) are doing so while wearing a N95 mask, preferably under the BioHood. Not to mention all the maintenance, QA and QC that is involved in running these instruments. That's just the part I know.

There is also the collection of the swab specimen (an invasive and unpleasant insertion into your nasal cavity that I wouldn't want someone who wasn't a medical professional to do), not to mention the most important part- the ordering of, and resulting to, a qualified Doctor- who instructs you on what to do specifically, regarding your health, when you get your results.

This is just NOT something you can put in off to the side at bag check by the Parks.

I would imagine that when a park employee takes your temperature and the result does not match the criteria Disney sets, you'll be handed a flyer with the information of the 2 or 3 nearest hospitals or clinics nearby, and sent on your way with "have a magical day."

I'm sure the Disney Co has no interest collecting, storing, or having to disseminate any part of every guest's HIPPA protected "medical history" which is what they would be doing if they tested people before they entered.
No way.
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This post is so good that I have to quote it to make sure people read it again. It's really informative and just highlights the difficulty of doing the testing at WDW.
 
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TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives said:
This post is so good that I have to quote it to make sure people read it again. It's really informative and just highlights the difficulty of doing the testing at WDW.
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Agreed. It's insane to think that people think Disney's going to take on the responsibility of medical records. I'm no lawyer but I read enough /r/legaladvice to know that medical laws are incredibly strict (as they should be!)
 
GoofGoof

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Derrit said:
I just don't see how mass gatherings can be banned till a vaccine which will take more than a year from now. Considering some mass gatherings are essential (Transportation hubs in big cities, airports, ever walked in NYC on a sidewalk it's people to people?).

You can make an argument that some mass gatherings are luxurious and unnecessary (Like WDW) but there's entire industry's that just wont exist like Broadway, Sporting events or even Colleges and schools.
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I think we are quite a bit away from sporting events and large crowds. Maybe not until a vaccine but I don’t see any stadiums being full this summer and the fall is looking questionable. With pro sports they can decide to play without a crowd and still pull in the TV money. Concerts and Broadway are a bigger problem as is WDW.
 
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Derrit said:
I just don't see how mass gatherings can be banned till a vaccine which will take more than a year from now. Considering some mass gatherings are essential (Transportation hubs in big cities, airports, ever walked in NYC on a sidewalk it's people to people?).

You can make an argument that some mass gatherings are luxurious and unnecessary (Like WDW) but there's entire industry's that just wont exist like Broadway, Sporting events or even Colleges and schools.
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Sports are likely going to resume play later in the year without fans. So that's not a mass gathering concern.
 
ToTBellHop

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Derrit said:
I just don't see how mass gatherings can be banned till a vaccine which will take more than a year from now. Considering some mass gatherings are essential (Transportation hubs in big cities, airports, ever walked in NYC on a sidewalk it's people to people?).

You can make an argument that some mass gatherings are luxurious and unnecessary (Like WDW) but there's entire industry's that just wont exist like Broadway, Sporting events or even Colleges and schools.
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I work in a college. We are online through 8/25/20 and currently making plans in case the campus is closed through 12/17/20.

If it is acceptable to have educational facilities closed through the end of the year, is it acceptable for Splash Mountain to be closed that long?

Not saying it will be. But it certainly is possible.
 
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manmythlegend

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Andrew C said:
Closing that long is not sustainable. And if they are closed that long, then entire industries that are similar would be closed for that long. You would end a good portion of the economy. Again, not sustainable for that length of time.
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I'm not the one making decisions my friend. Listen to the people that are. Heck, LA Mayor Garcetti is calling for no sporting events until 2021. Do you think Disneyland will open before the Lakers resume their 2020 title chase?
 
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manmythlegend

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Derrit said:
What about the hospitality industry, museums and national parks? Will those be closed or can that be argued that they are essential and a part of our culture and operate in some capacity?

I do understand that there is some risk with opening anything up, but I can't imagine that this style-of-lockdown will go on for much longer. Sure they'll probably be regulations and further consideration of what can and can't operate in a safe manner, but it is quite possible in some degree to operate a lot more things in the near future.
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Museums can put in tight capacity controls to allow social distancing. And also require facial coverings.

Is social distancing a problem in national parks? I've never had much of an issue keeping my space except maybe crossing paths on a hike for a very brief second.
 
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manmythlegend said:
Museums can put in tight capacity controls to allow social distancing. And also require facial coverings.

Is social distancing a problem in national parks? I've never had much of an issue keeping my space except maybe crossing paths on a hike for a very brief second.
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The popular ones, yes. Yosemite and Grand Canyon both come to mind. It is possible they would just close the buildings that attract tourists and keep the outdoor spaces open. Even then certain areas would need social distancing enforced.

I think the biggest problem for WDW may be the general lack of desire from the masses to either wear masks or submit to testing. It’s also really impractical to implement.
 
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ParkerLoLs said:
Harvard is not working for the government. But by your definition, we shouldn't trust anyone with whom you don't agree. Got it.
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Harvard is very agenda driven... at the moment they are fighting against the government because of pushes to tax some of their 40 billion dollar endowment. I would but more faith in a state university that is likely to be less biased.
 
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manmythlegend

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GoofGoof said:
The popular ones, yes. Yosemite and Grand Canyon both come to mind. It is possible they would just close the buildings that attract tourists and keep the outdoor spaces open. Even then certain areas would need social distancing enforced.

I think the biggest problem for WDW may be the general lack of desire from the masses to either wear masks or submit to testing. It’s also really impractical to implement.
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Yeah Yosemite is pretty bad. They would definitely have to limit the number of vehicles entering the park. But I actually think museums and national parks are some of the easiest places to enforce social distancing.
 
TrainsOfDisney

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manmythlegend said:
Is social distancing a problem in national parks? I've never had much of an issue keeping my space except maybe crossing paths on a hike for a very brief second.
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Of course not. There might be a few unique places like some of the viewing areas at Grand Canyon but even then it could be easily controlled.

Is there any evidence that this is spread in outdoor environments? (I’m not counting outdoor sports stadiums or amphitheater’s...)
 
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