Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Disstevefan1]

Well, this is new.I don't think WDW will open next month or the one after that.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday he is issuing an executive order directing all New Yorkers to wear a face mask covering their nose and mouth when in public during the current coronavirus pandemic. Cuomo said he will give people a three-day notice period to comply with the new rule, which applies in situations where people are unable to fully comply with social-distancing rules, such as on a subway platform or busy street.

My money is on June 1st to be open in some capacity. WDW will NEVER be like it was pre COVID in my opinion.

 

[marni1971]

Our government will pay 80% of minimum wage but the employer has to pay the other 20 or no dice.

Ah. Minimum wage, not the individuals basic (before overtime) pay rate?

 

[LittleBuford]

My money is on June 1st to be open in some capacity. WDW will NEVER be like it was pre COVID in my opinion.

What do you think the permanent differences will be?

 

[Parker in NYC]

My money is on June 1st to be open in some capacity. WDW will NEVER be like it was pre COVID in my opinion.

It'll come back. Unless you mean that once we're beyond this epidemic, it'll cost $25 for a quick service burger. Which, it probably would, anyway.

 

[DisneyCane]

So long as you deign who is respected and who isn't. I'll wait for your calls on that.

...whoever agrees with me is respected

What I was trying to convey (although I should have been more specific) is that the institutions that put out those articles are respected. The issue is that they are parroting information out of China which I do not trust AT ALL. I would respect a study done by researchers at either the University of Minnesota or Harvard as long as they did their own research.

 

[Parker in NYC]

What I was trying to convey (although I should have been more specific) is that the institutions that put out those articles are respected. The issue is that they are parroting information out of China which I do not trust AT ALL. I would respect a study done by researchers at either the University of Minnesota or Harvard as long as they did their own research.

Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 through the postpandemic period | Science

Harvard.

SOCIAL DISTANCING DUE TO CORONAVIRUS COULD LAST INTO 2022

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

Obviously the work force will need to be cut. Some of that will happen naturally and eventually there could be layoffs. But for the time being this is better than being laid off and ensures healthcare at no cost for a year.

Would you prefer them all be laid off already. This is the better option. If the company intended to lay them all off they could and should have just done that already.

Unemployment benefits will likely be extended. People getting other jobs isn’t really ideal since there are not enough jobs available and for this initiative to really work you need large portions of the population to stay home and isolate, not be out looking for jobs or working.

Would I prefer them to all be laid off already? No. My concern is that it gives them a false sense of security when they should be actively looking for another job in the event they are not brought off (was going to say laid off, but it appears they will receive health benefits until April 2021 from WDC).

I agree the benefits will be extended, but until they are, I wouldn't count on it happening. Maybe that's just how I was raised, but if I was in their shoes, I would be applying for the next job in the event I'm not asked back (due to seniority, etc.). But you can't just sit there and expect everything to work out for you in the end. You can look for jobs from the comfort of your home and I imagine employers are doing Zoom meetings if they're hiring.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

What do you think the permanent differences will be?

If this lasts as long as it might... I think there will be massive cuts to entertainment. An example.... I don’t think we will see Fantasmic again on either coast as we saw it before. Nemo, festival of lion king, frozen sing along, Indiana Jones, castle shows, - basically anything requiring equity will get cut.

 

[peter11435]

Even if you could test 5 million people a week, it would take 65 weeks to test everyone. There will be people who are infected before they are tested and spread it to somebody who has already tested negative.

It is not possible to test everyone. Even if you had the test capacity to do it you would have to test every single person simultaneously and do it for several days straight (to account for the incubation period).

Testing "everyone" is absolutely NOT how you track it, trace it and stop it. This isn't a movie where things can magically happen. Things take time like producing the test kit, taking the samples, processing the tests, etc. There is a practical limit to what can be done even if funding was unlimited.

The old engineering saying goes, "given enough time AND enough money anything is possible." Time is a major constraint to this "test everyone" fantasy.

Excuses are not solutions. We don’t need “why can’t we” we need “how can we.” We’ve done some pretty remarkable things in our existence when we had to. There just needs to be sufficient motivation, focus, and unified support. That can’t happen as long as we only look for barrier and people continue to deny the existence of a problem.

Im not saying you need to test 400 million people simultaneously. You need to be able to test people in numbers that make a difference and test people other than those you already know or suspect have the virus. Mass testing isn’t THE answer or the solution, but it is PART of the solution.

 

[Clamman73]

Well, this is new.I don't think WDW will open next month or the one after that.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday he is issuing an executive order directing all New Yorkers to wear a face mask covering their nose and mouth when in public during the current coronavirus pandemic. Cuomo said he will give people a three-day notice period to comply with the new rule, which applies in situations where people are unable to fully comply with social-distancing rules, such as on a subway platform or busy street.

I was just at Shoprite earlier and I would say about 90% of people had mask on, me included...and a drive through Covid test site had cars lined up whereas a week ago it was a few cars. (Long Island)

 

[King Panda 77]

Ah. Minimum wage, not the individuals basic (before overtime) pay rate?

Nope just minimum. Have been off work myself for nearly a month. New guidelines being issued Friday, so may be able to reopen soon. If not we have been set up to do phone ordering with delivery. No more than two people in at any time so we are doing 3 day split shifts between us all. Doesn't impact the government help but gets some cashflow through the business.

 

[GoofGoof]

If this lasts as long as it might... I think there will be massive cuts to entertainment. An example.... I don’t think we will see Fantasmic again on either coast as we saw it before. Nemo, festival of lion king, frozen sing along, Indiana Jones, castle shows, - basically anything requiring equity will get cut.

Forever or just temporary. Assuming there is a vaccine at some point I would hope some or all of those things come back. You guys are depressing me now

 

[Kevin_W]

If this lasts as long as it might... I think there will be massive cuts to entertainment. An example.... I don’t think we will see Fantasmic again on either coast as we saw it before. Nemo, festival of lion king, frozen sing along, Indiana Jones, castle shows, - basically anything requiring equity will get cut.

I probably said this earlier in the thread, but the things requiring equity are what sets WDW apart. King's Island has better rides than WDW, but I don't go there for a week vacation.

 

[marni1971]

Nope just minimum..

Ouch. That is very different to the UK then.

Forever or just temporary. Assuming there is a vaccine at some point I would hope some or all of those things come back. You guys are depressing me now

Temporary. But I wouldn't count on entertainment for quite a period of time after parks start readmitting guests.

 

[peter11435]

King's Island has better rides than WDW,

Highly subjective; but also false.

 

[King Panda 77]

Ouch. That is very different to the UK then

True but our government can't print money as it wishes

 

[LittleBuford]

If this lasts as long as it might... I think there will be massive cuts to entertainment. An example.... I don’t think we will see Fantasmic again on either coast as we saw it before. Nemo, festival of lion king, frozen sing along, Indiana Jones, castle shows, - basically anything requiring equity will get cut.

I agree (and fear) that there will be major cuts for several years to come, but I can’t help feeling (hoping?) that the parks will eventually bounce back. Perhaps I’m being wildly over-optimistic.

 

[natatomic]

Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 through the postpandemic period | Science

Harvard.

SOCIAL DISTANCING DUE TO CORONAVIRUS COULD LAST INTO 2022

Projections like this scare me, and only PARTLY because of obviously implications. But there is already a growing base of people against these lockdowns and ordinances and rules, etc, and there are already protests scheduled for May 2 to “open the country back up.” I’m not saying they’re right or wrong, but this is only after a month of social distancing and quarantine. The number of people who start to agree with these protestors are only going to grow as more and more time goes on. I greatly fear for mass civil unrest and worry about what this could mean for us as a society in the future.

And yes. I know social distancing can still be done without full on quarantine like we’re in now...but social distancing still will impact jobs and the economy as a whole in a not-great way as well, and I still think there will be large populations of the country against SD.

Anyway, Im just saying that the virus isn’t the only thing to be afraid of right now.

 

[Lilofan]

Obviously the work force will need to be cut. Some of that will happen naturally and eventually there could be layoffs. But for the time being this is better than being laid off and ensures healthcare at no cost for a year.

Would you prefer them all be laid off already. This is the better option. If the company intended to lay them all off they could and should have just done that already.

Unemployment benefits will likely be extended. People getting other jobs isn’t really ideal since there are not enough jobs available and for this initiative to really work you need large portions of the population to stay home and isolate, not be out looking for jobs or working.

Disney would not lay off right away. When the finance gurus sees how Disney is going to look like operations wise, then I would think the operations chiefs would start deciding which depts stay and which get downsized and or eliminated. If entertainment, water parks, certain theme park and resort operations, and dining options are limited, then it's obvious not all currently soon to be furloughed will be welcomed back. The big if for many employees of companies and of Disney staff that are or soon to be on furlough is if all will be employed when operations do open up again. Disney along with other companies are always looking at automating work also.

 

[marni1971]

But there is already a growing base of people against these lockdowns and ordinances and rules, etc, and there are already protests scheduled for May 2 to “open the country back up.”

You can’t legislate against thick.